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Przemas wrote:yup Nav, but still there are not over 30% more expensive, do they ?
I`ve checked the official prices and so far I haven`t found so high prices as in Poland....

Sorry to hear that mate... We dont have GW here but between having one that pimps prices like that and none i choose the second option... Besides its even more unfair considering both our countries wages are some of the lowest in europe...

malfred wrote:

warpcrafter wrote:The more GW stuff costs, the slower my current army build, so they aren't making more money off me. Anybody out there the same?

Yeah. It helps to already have a playable army, though.

Well, and sorry to bring this down again but the deals GW releasing recently makes my armies grow faster and cheaper. But Since bugs and csm are mostly plastic i guess i dont feel the price adjustments as much as metal heavy armies?
Even the ridiculous priced sm termis are now at acceptable prices in new starter...

Spend around about £50 at Bolt Action Miniatures and get all the models you need to field a WWII platoon in Rules of Engagement. Nobody moans about their army being broken or someone else's is over powered, plus once you've mastered your current force it's only another £50 to try another one and boy are HMG's nasty in this game!

NAVARRO wrote:

malfred wrote:

warpcrafter wrote:The more GW stuff costs, the slower my current army build, so they aren't making more money off me. Anybody out there the same?

Yeah. It helps to already have a playable army, though.

Well, and sorry to bring this down again but the deals GW releasing recently makes my armies grow faster and cheaper. But Since bugs and csm are mostly plastic i guess i dont feel the price adjustments as much as metal heavy armies?
Even the ridiculous priced sm termis are now at acceptable prices in new starter...

Most Fantasy elite units are metal.

I often wonder at what point GW will price themselves right out of business.

Obviously, not quite yet, and maybe the push for all plastic will 'save' them and us.

But we've got to be getting real close with some of the metal special characters.

It is especially grating as soon, the metal special characters will be the only way to customize your army selection in 40K...

Surely most modern armies are 90% plastic by now.

I mean if you look at Tau, the only metal units are Sniper Drones, Vespids, Pathfinders (which can easily be converted from standard Warriors) and the special characters. You can easily convert the special Suited characters from ordinary plastic suits, and no-one needs more than one Ethereal.

I suppose this hits S&M players, Eldars and so on who have some great characters and special units in metal.

Maybe this will quicken up the delivery to market of a plastic character box for each race?

I'd love to see a plastic librarian/chaplain sprue for the plastic commander box.

Plus, something could easily be done for Eldar and Orks as well.

Think this will effect the price of the Space Marine Spearhead?

Aduro wrote:Think this will effect the price of the Space Marine Spearhead?

The vets are already the same price as a tac squad (5 vets=10 tacs).The spearhead could be cheaper with plastic marines.

Metal veterans = epic fail

Didn't we like their plastic upgrades for BT and DA?

Zoned wrote:Not sure if you were exagerrating but FYI, Logan grimnar is $30 canadian, retail.

Really? My bro after tax in Ontario payed 42 dollars and x number of cents for it from our local Games Workshop store for it.

The one thing I hate though is that if I drive an hour to get to the states that 130 battleforce now costs 90 dollars. Even though are dollars are only 3 cents apart. (the true Canadian price comparative should be around 92 dollars.... Really ticks me off.

If you're that close to the border you should be organising a minibus to go over with a gang of pals and clean out the nearest US shop. Make a pre-order first to ensure they get it all in stock.

A price hike simply means I buy less stuff. I'm a poor poor man, but I run the gaming night at the FLGS and get store cred weekly for doing so. I buy nothing that exceeds my cred, so it means I get less.

I'm not surprised at all, every other company has been raising prices due to the price of metal and other stuff, was only a matter of time for GW to do it too. But it's nice that they're gonna keep the plastic stuff the same at least for now, so I guess kudos to them for trying and not raising it all just because they can.

I guess for me I feel I'm not effected too much as I already have plenty of stuff and I don't expect to need to buy anything new till they start putting out the new guard stuff whenever that is.

Well, Wargames Foundry had already priced themselves pretty much out of the wargaming business with their prices (they're a 'collectibles' business, you see, which is why 6 pirates cost $5-7 each).

What will be interesting to watch is the secondary market, which is pretty saturated at this point.

syr8766 wrote:

What will be interesting to watch is the secondary market, which is pretty saturated at this point.

How do you figure? There's alot of stuff out there sure, but for the consumer its still great. Unless you mean for GW....

Ratbarf wrote:

Zoned wrote:Not sure if you were exagerrating but FYI, Logan grimnar is $30 canadian, retail.

Really? My bro after tax in Ontario payed 42 dollars and x number of cents for it from our local Games Workshop store for it.

The one thing I hate though is that if I drive an hour to get to the states that 130 battleforce now costs 90 dollars. Even though are dollars are only 3 cents apart. (the true Canadian price comparative should be around 92 dollars.... Really ticks me off.

http://ca.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.ca?do=Individual&code=99060101208&orignav=10
no, the store would have charged $30 for it, as bad as Ontario taxes are, they aren't 40%

syr8766 wrote:Well, Wargames Foundry had already priced themselves pretty much out of the wargaming business with their prices (they're a 'collectibles' business, you see, which is why 6 pirates cost $5-7 each).

What will be interesting to watch is the secondary market, which is pretty saturated at this point.

What do you mean by secondary market? I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the matter. For most GW stuff, their resale value is still very high, but I don't know anything about non-GW eBay prices (I'm guessing quite low).

So...a question for anyone who has that spreadsheet. What do the changes to the Specialist Games ranges look like? Inquisitor models have always been fairly highly priced (compared to other GW models of the same mass), and I shudder to think what they'll be like now.

Deathmachine wrote:when i first started playing warhammer 40k in 3rd ED a space marine combat squad was 12.50 so this rise in price dosent surprise me at all.

and gas was $1.20 a gallon, the good old days. The price hike will not effect plastics only metals, paints and some other stuff.

Cheers

Kinghammer, you forgot hobby supplies (good thing I was sitting right next to you to remind you of everything you forgot, eh?).

The list we got at the trade seminar was metal minis, paints and hobby supplies. They were ADAMANT that plastic prices would not be increasing.

And I would like to reiterate, the cost of our hobby going up is doing so at a significantly slower rate than the cost of many MANY other things. Like gas. And food. So whining about this seems kind of pointless to me.

Then again, people whining about the prices of luxury/entertainment products always seemed pointless to me, so nothing changes...

AgeOfEgos wrote:

reds8n wrote:

Apone wrote:I'd hope it was just US too .

Nope. Sorry.

I wonder if the new Marine release prices are in line with this? Example;

Telion: $12
Chronus (2 models, for tank and on foot): $17
Scout bike (1): $12
Landspeeder: $30
Droppod: $30
Landraider Crusader/Redeemer: $50
Thunderfire Cannon: $40
Codex: $25

I doubt it. The last time we had a price hike here in Canada, the new Empire releases had not been out 2 weeks, and they all went up in price. GW prices according to bands, so all that stuff will be slotted into its appropriate cost code, and when it goes up in price, regardless of whether it is a new release or not, all product will go up accordingly.

TGN wrote:
http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2008/08/22/16543

Today we are contacting all of our Trade customers globally to announce that due to these rising costs, we too will be raising some of our prices.

...

The price increase will affect part of our paint and hobby ranges, as well as a large portion of our metal models and printed materials.

Even with the pressure of rising costs we are adamant that we will not at this time raise prices on any plastic model kits. Providing high quality, great value kits is fundamental to our corporate strategy and will continue to produce and distribute them at the current prices for as long as we are able.

Sincerely,

Games Workshop

What? Another price increase? Are we really due for another?

Even though GW told their investors that materials were like 1% of their costs? Really?

Still, it's nice to see that GW doesn't need to squeeze us on the plastics. I guess 95+% Gross Margin is sufficient.


And it's nice see that GW is addressing the "plastic should be cheaper than metal" argument. Did people honestly think GW would *lower* the prices on the plastics? What did people think that GW would do when told that "we will pay more for metal models"? *NOT* raise prices on the more valuable metals? -sigh-

Ratbarf wrote:The one thing I hate though is that if I drive an hour to get to the states that 130 battleforce now costs 90 dollars. Even though are dollars are only 3 cents apart. (the true Canadian price comparative should be around 92 dollars....

Yeah, but how much is gas? 2 hours of highway driving is about 150 miles, or roughly 6 gallons. In the US, we pay almost $4/gal, so that's $25 in gas. Tho I think Canada has higher gas tax, so it could be a wash on a Battleforce. Plus, you guys have VAT rolled in, which is much higher than our sales taxes.

That's why you get a minibus and five friends to share the petrol cost.

Do Canadians have VAT?

Yes. It is called "Goods and Services Tax" or "GST". This is applied in addition to Provincial Sales Tax.

Sorry, my bad.

GW priced their metals way out of my price sensitivity parameters quite a few years back. I'm pleased to say that haven't bought anything metal "new" from GW since at least 2006. Occasionally I hit on eBay bargains, but I only buy them on rare occasions now as the prices being asked for what are often mediocre sculpts bear no little relation to my concept of value.

These are crappy little bits of metal for a game, not great works of art...

Osbad wrote:GW priced their metals way out of my price sensitivity parameters quite a few years back.

So now you are truly price insensitive, in that whatever they increase the price by your buying habits won't change.

Only people who still buy stuff from GW complain, others have passed onto some sort of gaming nirvana; did you say it was called Ebay?

George Spiggott wrote:

Osbad wrote:GW priced their metals way out of my price sensitivity parameters quite a few years back.

So now you are truly price insensitive, in that whatever they increase the price by your buying habits won't change.

Good one!

I'm almost there myself, actually...

Yeah, but ebay isn't nearly the nirvana it used to be thanks to jackasses who break all their plastic sprues down into individual components and sell them separately (each with its own accompanying ridiculous shipping charges, of course). Yeah 3.25 for a gasmasked loota head?????

Frankly, I'd like to see GW start doing like they did for marines long ago and make almost all of your choices in plastic (or easily made from plastic kits, after all do I need to pay metal prices for vets when I can take a plastic and paint his head white???)

Now in the email I got about the price hike they also said they were going to rush out more of their planned plastics sooner, so let's hope some unplanned ones also make the cut. Do I dare hope for plastic meganobz?

Not good for us Daemonhunter army collecters :S. All our basic units are metal. But as previously mentioned, it won't affect how much I spend, I'll just get less for my money.