Who would you kill off?

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**Xav**

I can easily stand seven year old imperial fist paint job, or blood ravens, and hell i could stand Ultramarines too, if there was so damn much of it!

**Bodichi**

If I were to try and kill of a space marine chapter it would have to be one close to the eye of terror, small enough to destroy fairly easily, and important enought that it would stirk a crucial blow against either the morale, or defensive backbone of the defenders near or around the eye.

**Mort**

Cheese Elemental wrote:Say you were Abbadon. You're embarking on a minor crusade against the Hurr Marines, and you must choose ONE chapter to destroy. Who would you hit?

Just one? As a Xeno-only player, I sure wish "All of the Above" was an option.

But if I have to pick one, I'd pick Black Templars. For me, nostalgically the 'big four' (DAs, SW's, Ultra's, and BAs) should be the 'forever-chapters'. And I do like the Ultras... I like the original DA theme the best (the quasi native-american theme), but I've always liked the 'generic' feel to the Ultras, while the other Chapters seemed to have all the weird toys and such.

But I just don't care for the BT's, their look, their theme, so tie that in with being the new kids on the block by comparison, really, and they simply would be my first choice.

Those are my purely selfish preferences. If I were Abracadabradon and I was thinking strategically, it'd be hard not to wipe out the Grey Knights.

Just my 2 ducats, of course.

**Quintinus**

Ultramarines.

Why? Not only do I dislike them intensely, and ignoring the fact that they're GW's poster boys (I will try not to be biased here), the Ultramarines are in the unique position of being one of the most powerful legions, with a lot of territory and a kind of inspiration to the Imperium.

To destroy them would put all of Ultramar and its surrounding territory into Chaos, which is not something that the Imperium would like. Plus, with one of the most inspirational chapters destroyed, it would kind of put a kink into plans. Also, the Ultramarines are the source of a lot of geneseed, the geneseed that the most chapters (besides 1st founding ones) use.

They also seem to be one of the most trusted chapters of Space Marines, as they follow the rules. What happens when the rules-followers get squashed?

Perhaps a even bigger divide between the High Lords and the Space Marines.

Sorry if none of this makes sense.

:edit: Okay so I finally found out what I was trying to say. Destroying the Ultramarines would be a huge psychological blow to the Imperium. There you go. Have a nice day.

**dietrich**

Tactically, I think it would make more sense to go after the Grey Knights since they're whole thing is to fight daemons. And they did banish Angron back to the warp.

Emotionally, I would think he'd go after the Imperial Fists. They were the defenders of Terra. While the White Scars and Blood Angels were defenders during the Siege of Terra, it was the IF show to run - they built and directed the fortifications. Plus, Horus killed Sanguinus, and I would guess that Abaddon wouldn't want to eradicate a chapter that is tortured by the death of their primarch at the hands of Horus. The White Scars, while present, did more 'behind the lines' action, and I don't think were present at the Emperor's Palace in the numbers of the IF or BA.

The Salamanders might be a good target, if Abaddon could get enough assets to their homeworld undetected, which I doubt. Sallies are a first founding, are entrenched with the native populace, and were the smallest Legion. They might be an easier target that would still deal a blow to Imperial morale.

**enmitee**

Vanilla/Smurf marines, since they're an easy targets.

even with a new codex they still suck at the GTs.

**JokerGod**

If I was him I would just blow up tera, screw all the SM guys at once, little pansy assed cry babies! Whos your emperor now!

**Tacobake**

I was reading about Tall Poppy Syndrome on Wikipedia, I did not think it was something that actually happened.

I would pick ... Tau. Wait, I did it wrong. I would pick ... Black Templar and Dark Angels books are kind of pissing me off right now, so those could go. Although I myself collect Black Templar and KK would die without the Dark Angels veteran sprue.

I actually in my head said, "Flesh Tearers". Silver Skulls are stupid to me. But if we really have to get rid of something, we do not need the flame guys they are called Legion of the Damned now.

So I have to pick: Flesh Tearers. An unfortunate if memorable legacy of Second Edition, I think they are actually called the Kharn the Betrayers now. They will probably be a distant memory by the time 7th edition rolls around.

**Tacobake**

I am supposed to be Abbadon. Space Wolves. fethers.

I'll get you next time, Gadget! NEXT TIME!!!!!!!!

**Tacobake**

JokerGod wrote:If I was him I would just blow up tera, screw all the SM guys at once, little pansy assed cry babies! Whos your emperor now!

I have said it before, I'll say it again. Dakka DCM is better than cable.

**Xav**

Gather all space marines on terra, tell them the emporers back then blow them to hell!

**JohnHwangDD**

dietrich wrote:Imperial Fists

Lightweights.

Besides, the Iron Warriors already broke them in the Iron Cage, so all that proves is that Abbaddon can repeat what was originally done before by Perturabo. It sets no new standard and is as insignificant as kicking a half-dead dog. If not for Roboute, the IW would have wiped the IF completely. So it'd be more of a mercy than anything else, so that IF don't have to live with the shame of their very existence.

The Ultras would be more of a challenge, especially as they didn't do anything during the Heresy.

**Xav**

The Ultras would be more of a challenge, especiallly as they didn't do anything during the Heresy

Lazy Bugger, too busy polishing there armour.

**smiling Assassin**

I feel safe in the fact that you probably couldn't take out the Black Templars.

Oh no, they'll just piss off to the other side of the Galaxy.

Owned.

~sA

(Yes, my first army was BT)

**warmonger**

Imperial Fists--never really cared for yellow power armour

**Anung Un Rama**

Just for the record: I hate Blood Angels. It's just fun bashing Ultras

**temprus**

H.B.M.C. wrote:Why all the Ultramarine hate?

BYE

If it had not been for those darn Necrons, I would have said Astral Knights!

If we go with "Fluff", then Ultramarines must be eliminated, for the sake of all non-Imperial Forces. For only the Ultras keep back the tides of all of the non-Imperial Forces and no one else (except those that want to be like the Ultramarines)!

**focusedfire**

(whispering soto voce) Why don't you go after the 'Nids(maniacal laghter)

**frgsinwntr**

I retract my previous statement. The emperors pointy sticks is a much more serious threat to the Warmaster Abbadon

**Augustus**

Khestra the Unbeheld wrote:Imperial Fists, because they already got off to a good start by killing Rogal Dorn.

YEA! I say Imperial Fists because a chapter of yellow marines, is just lame!

Yellow?

Really...

?

Wow

**Llamahead**

My vote go's for Space Wolves as there can only be one!

**Ogiwan**

I don't get all the Ultramarine hate.

No, thinking about it as I read this thread, I realized 3 chapters I would want to eliminate:

1.) Blood Angels. Basically, they're loyalist Khornates. Y e a h....no.

2.) Black Templars. They are also rather Khornate-y, in that they just run towards the enemy. Idiotic.

3.) Soul Drinkers. I read a single book of the Soul Drinkers series, and I was like, "OK, Ben Counter is a toolbag". They, like the Templars, charge blindly into the enemy. Idiotic.

Of course, I'm kinda opposed to power-armored freaks in general so.....

**Ugluk Mo'Dakka**

I'd say I agree with Ogiwan.

**Faux Pas**

Dark Angels, so they would hurry up and produce a codex for people who have been waiting for years for one, not months.

**Noisy_Marine**

Ok I want to change my vote.

After much thought, if I were Abbadon I would kill ... MYSELF.

Because Abby has failed to do much of anything in his Crusades. Sure, he got a cool sword and a Blackstone Fortress. Last I heard, Cadia is still there and the forces of chaos are still stuck in the Eye.

Give Abby himself the chop. I don't care if there is no suitable replacement. We will find one in the usual way (lots o' fighting).

**the_trooper**

There are enough Daemon-Primarchs alive that could take his place...

**Lint**

Ogiwan wrote:

3.) Soul Drinkers. I read a single book of the Soul Drinkers series, and I was like, "OK, Ben Counter is a toolbag".

QFT, you got that right.... why they ever let him pick up a crayon and start writing Heresy books, I'll never know.....

**Ogiwan**

Maybe they didn't want anyone to feel left out?

**Elnicko5**

Space Sharks

**wuestenfux**

Definitely Ultramarines.
Their color and look is so terrible. I can't stand it.