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Psychic Tech

The Changeling is a must in any all Tzeentch army, for 5pts it allows me to force an enemy unit to target a friendly unit so they can either stand around confused or pass a leadership to try and see through the illusion if not they shoot everything they can at the chosen friendly unit.

Such an ability would certainly require a robot that has some level of psychic power I thought of two options 1. A psyker’s brain implanted into a robot or 2. An ancient piece of tech that focuses on feeding info directly into the targets brain to create illusions. I decided to choose both and created the Zanatorian Mastermind.



The legs were the biggest issue but I finally got it sorted, what do you think?

That mastermind prototype is really cool.

Disruptor MK 2

Someone pointed out the other day that the spine on the Disruptor screamed Necron so I decided to replace it with the destroyer’s gunner arm.



It's a vast improvement from the first model with the spine as it makes the model really look like it projects some sort of wave.

Didn't think it 'screamed' necron THAT much but to each his or her own.

Nice conversions, especially liking the master mind model

Heralds Of The Machine God?

Most Deamon vets are recommending I use Heralds Of Tzeentch in my army and I can see they have a lot of firepower and can be very fast on a chariot.

The only problem is coming up with a robotic model to represent one of them on foot or worst yet a chariot, so far the only things I can think of are two very old ideas from way back in the army’s first months of development.


Herald On Foot (replace weapon with something a bit more suitable) and on the right a herald on chariot but need to think of something to represent the extra attacks on his profile?

Anyone got any ideas for conversions?

Let the chariot be pulled by heavily modified servitors or some kind of mechanical beast-of-burden.

Hey man, good work! I love the "prototypes".

Should move this to P&M blogs, so I'd spot it

The prototypes looks like the t-wars ( typo? )
in another dakka thread.

My thoughts on the Chariot Herald:
I'm not into the backwards Destroyer body. I've always thought conversions like that looked a little silly. I recommend having him standing on the body like some kind of hoverboard.
Of course, that doesn't really scream "Mechanicus"...Maybe you could have the lower half of the Herlad's body like the Mastermind's legs. Cables connecting to the board, long enough to keep him raised above the platform to tell they are two seperate entities.
Or you could combine both ideas. Have him standing on the Destroyer platform with cables flaring out of his spine and skull into the machine?

Harbinger Of The Machine God

Last night I came up with an idea for a model that could represent a Herald on a chariot, I give you the ‘Zanatorian Harbinger’



A chariot has some 5 wounds and 4 attacks so I’m thinking about modeling some ‘Steel Scorpions’ onto the base, as for it’s speed it scuttles real fast and can jump real high which also good for it’s furious charge rule.

What do you think? It’s only a rough conversion at the moment so I'm looking for any suggestions regarding it's weapons (especially since it can fire at two different targets) and ways to improve it?

I'm gonna try placing a terminator body on top of it with the defiler part as it's head, this will give me more space for mounting a set of bigger guns on the side.

Still unsure of what to use for the weapons, any ideas? (perhaps a non GW part?)

Another idea I had for the Chariot was to use the tomb spyder's main body and convert a large floating robot that housed a swarm of small Interceptor bots (see earlier entries) the ‘carrier’ would have the main gun and the interceptors would fire at the 2nd target?

That harbringer looks fantastic; I have no advice on how to improve because I think it's perfect like it is. I think the hardest thing about using necron bits is they make everything look necron right away! But the harbringer is subtle enough to take that appearance away so big thumbs up for that.
I also like the direction you went with the mastermind; my only advice would be to remove the halo on the servo skull and maybe add a bit more wiring. I feel like more skulls with more wiring would add a really nice flavor to the army, whether its dark in a chaosy sort of way or not...it certainly seems twisted.

All in all great army so far, this one takes the cake IMHO of your armies to date. Keep it up!

EDIT: in response to your query, I'd say that I would maybe steer away from using the tomb spyder body and go with something like the terminator torso to beef it up to hold bigger weapons. As far as weapons go, you could maybe mount some dreadnought-sized weapons or maybe convert some ork-imperial hybrids that would look exceptional (I'm thinking along the lines of those "count-as" boltguns you were using for the old knight titans).

I'd be tempted to put on something to represent it's attacks in Close Combat possibly more Tomb Spyder Claws. Or possibly just spikes of some descriptions on the legs. I don't think it wants to be bulked out much myself.

Individual Steel Scorpions?

Something’s been troubling me recently and it’s whether or not I should mount my Steel Scorpions on individual bases and use them as Daemonettes?



It’s just the daemon list I’m using with them lack any real combat troops and Daemonettes seem the best suited as their toughness isn’t greater than the Iron Guard robots (Horrors) and the weaker save can be resembled by the bot’s smaller size.
I had thought of using them as Nurglings but… well Nurglings are rubbish for what I’m after which is objectives grabbers and an effective close quarter unit. Also the Daemonettes have the speed and agility that suits the steel scorpion more.

What do you guys think should I use them individually as Daemonettes or keep them as they are and use them as Nurglings?

I think they would work well as daemonettes; they look quick and deadly with a thrust of that tail blade. Their size and construction looks like it could warrant a very fast little critter. My only real advice would be making the spiders a little less necron-like, but if you like them just like that then I have no issues. Daemonettes would work great, especially if you're trying to get better CC punch

Harbinger looks great!

Harbinger Development Part 2

I’ve been working on the Harbinger model and have made a few adjustments to it. First off I’ve replaced the tomb Spyder gun with an old titan weapon that looks a lot better, and I’ve added a small cannon on the bottom plus a few extra touch ups.



I’ve also featured some Steel Scorpions in the photo which will be added to the base, but if they overcrowd it I’ll take them off. I’ll take the legs off soon and file down the green stuff and cover it up with some thin armoured plates on the top of the legs.

However this is only one of the designs for this model that I’m considering, the other is to have a upper body of a robot instead of the defiler head so it looks like the Reaper cyborgs from C&C: http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/64/others/reaper.gif

I'd be very grateful for any feedback regarding this bot?

Looks a bit static for my money.

Excellent blog overall though Proiteus - I especially like the anti-tank drone. Reminds me of a boarding craft from Halo.

I think that updated harbringer looks great; you hit it right on the money. I don't think any other changes are really necessary, though I can understand why you might want to make some more adjustments to give it more of a "chariot" feel. Still, I give it a big

Have you decided what the steel scorpions will count as?

Updates & Squad Identities

There have been several updates regarding earlier posts…

Individual Steel Scorpions: I’m going to count them as Nurgling Swarms because their size makes them easier for my opponent to remember what they represent. Plus they look cool in pairs.

Harbinger Alternative Design & Speed The Harbinger will keep it’s current appearance as someone pointed out to me that the 2nd concept doesn’t fit in well with the rest of the army. It also reminded me of something I learned when developing the Iron Guard robot which is I should avoid making the robots look human.
Someone also asked how can I justify the Harbinger’s Jetbike movement. Simple it’s a fast moving walker that can jump due to it’s powerful legs, similar to this unit from Red Alert 3: http://www.commandandconquer.com/portal/site/redalert/template.MAXIMIZE/factions_en/?javax.portlet.tpst=887f789b1e9f05362087dce7b100cda0_ws_MX&javax.portlet.prp_887f789b1e9f05362087dce7b100cda0_viewID=proxy_view_secondary&javax.portlet.prp_887f789b1e9f05362087dce7b100cda0_wcproxyurl=http%253A%252F%252Flocalhost%253A8080%252FSiteAssets%252Ffactions%252FSickle.html&javax.portlet.begCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken&javax.portlet.endCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken

Now my only problem is coming up with a way to make the robots differ from each other for the purposes of being able to identify different squads, without ruining the model’s appearance.



Any suggestions? So far I’ve thought of a different shoulder mount or second weapon but this doesn’t help the Scorpions or Dragoons. Plus I’m not at all good at painting symbols and transfers are out of the question altogether!

Iron Guard Weapons?

Right now I’m debating on giving the Iron Guard robots another ranged weapon to replace the claw that is on the current model. This is mainly due to the fact my Iron Guard are representing Horrors who fire assault 3 weapons, and the weapon just doesn’t look the type to fire that many shots. So I made some adjustments to the bolter arm from my pervious weapon alteration.



It came out better than I thought the only change I’d try to make is to swap the wire round on the right arm to the outside to make the robots design symmetrical, which can be easily done.

But as always the final decision on the matter we’ll be based on what you guys think?

Just to let you guys who are interested in this project know that now my final year dissertation is finished and I'm able to finally start work on the project again.

I'm currently workin on the painting up the bases for the army, since I'm waiting on parts to arrive, how about you guys tell me which one you'll like to see completed first out of the last few models I've made and I'll painted up the one in highest demand?

So which would you like to see painted first: the Mastermind, Disruptor, Golem Or Harbinger?

Zanatorian Golem

Well I'm finally back on track with the creation of the machine cult, I'll start building the big robots first and then the smaller squads before mass producing the Iron Guard robots. But first off we'll look at the Golem.



As you can see from the Iron Guard robot the golem is very big, which makes it perfect for representing a Necron Tomb Spyder or Deamon Prince.

I did make a small adjustment to the dread model which was to add a visor using green stuff to replace those eyes which ruined the robotic look of the model: http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs42/f/2009/077/0/b/Zanatorian_Golem_Unpainted_by_Proiteus.jpg

I'm quite pleased with how its turned out, but as always you views are very important. Next up will be the Mastermind and Harbinger.

Zanatorian Constructor

Some of you may remember my first attempts to replace my first Necron Warrior conversion following the GW bitz discontinuation: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/228258.page#537180

However I soon realized that it looked more like a robot build for construction and repair rather than for fighting purposes.
Plus although original it was lacking in detail compare to the later Iron Guard conversion so I decided to put it by and save it for a representing something else.

But recently while working on the 'Harbinger' model I decided to make one as an objective model replacing the gauss blasters with small tools and upon seeing the final model I'm tempted to make a full set of 5?



What do you think? Should I make a full set of 5 for my objective bases or just keep the one?

Definitely they'd be great for that! Also unlike many objectives I can understand why your opponent would want them! The remodelled basic robot looks good. What are you planning for Flamers and the Bolt of Change?

Look really cool, especially the harbringer. keep it up

over and out avach

Zanatorian Harbinger Tank

Well here it is the Harbinger tank the model that we'll represent a chariot of tzeentch (jetbike with heavy anti tank and infrantry weapons that is able to shoot two different targets in the same turn)



Of course it will only be used in games of 1750 which I rarely play or replace the 320pt Lord Of Change in smaller games.

Yet there is still some work to do both this model and the Golems need to be pinned and I'm still unsure about the main weapon?

Nice modeling, Harbringer's my favorite model so far. Also think that the toppled column on the base is a really nice touch.

Keep up the good work!

those are totally sweet.....

the mastermind is so cool , if that were a GW model, id buy it.

This is a wonderful thread. I'm really digging the clean pictures, and especially the editing to make everything seem very professional and clear. A+ from me, and I hope that you keep on going!