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H.B.M.C. wrote:Holy mother of God you weren't kidding:

- found here.

That is my fav piece of GW terrain... and it's not GW terrain. When they were doing their card-stock things (Firebase, Battlebunker, Bastion) there was a fourth one that I've only seen once that was a cardboard & Necro bulkhead copy of that piece of terrain. I saw it once on eBay but missed the end of the auction, and haven't seen it since.

But you can buy the real one! That's amazing. It really is one of my fav bits of GW terrain... and now I know it isn't! Thanks for the heads-up Chromedog.

BYE

thanks for the run back through decent WD days. I pulled out my copy and wept a bit as I remembered all the hobby goodness in the pre 200 issues.. I loved the old terrain tool. And that piece was one of the best.

Yep, good WD retro-review. Maybe the decline of WD can be traced back to the departure of Andy Chambers.

I heartily agree with your point about Battle Report maps. However, although they have begun to return, the symbols for each unit are still far too confusing.

I much preferred it when a Tactical Marine was marked by a Tactical Arrow or a Bad Moon Nob was marked by the Bad Moon Symbol.

Numbers and letters mean I have to look at the key for every single unit, whereas before it was fairly intuitive.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Ah blind grenades... when even GW thinks you're too much trouble, you're too much trouble.

NOTE - If you're too young to remember the 30 minute blind grenade phase, basically they were small blast templates that blocked LOS and if you ran through them you had to roll a scatter die or lose your sense of direction. they also drifted every turn.

Bah, you're exaggerating a bit. I made up a bunch of blind templates and printed the d6 roll results right on the template. I could usually resolve all the blind on the table in a minute or two.

Regarding the issue, what's funny about the DE release is how many units in the army book never had models released. In some cases (Scouts and Hydras, I think), older versions were available. In others (Executioners and Dark Riders, IIRC) they just didn't exist. The models were sculpted, just never released to the public. They did put some Executioners up for sale at a GD I attended, but they never made it into stores, etc. It wasn't unusual for there to be "gaps" in a model range in those days, but DE were kind of ridiculous.

Great review, HBMC. Took me back. I also liked your mention of some of the Dakka old-timers. Although IIRC, I think Drew was a lot more reactionary than DD. I can still remember Drew going apoplectic with every new codex release, calling it the most broken thing ever, LOL.

Hmm... fairly sure Dark Riders came out with that book. The current models have definitely been kicking around for three army books now, much like the Ellyrian Reavers.

But yes, GW has often failed to release models for all the stuff in the books. Only in the last year or so with the addition of 2nd Wave releases have we begun to see models for everything in a Codex/Army Book.

I was searching the interwebs for this issue and came across this nice write-up. Of how the times have changed..(mostly for the better)

Cheers sir!

A real necro there good sir, but have to say thanks as I enjoyed reading the review!

Still have that magazine on my shelf, that battle report was indeed a great one (believe the rogue psyker - the tabletop representation of Andy Chambers - got reduced to a pile of goo by a multi-melta at the end of the report, IIRC!)

Funny that people were commenting about the decline of WD even in 2009.. and perhaps lucky at that point that they couldn't see what the future would have in store..

And kind of interesting that Jake Thornton (the guy who has designed Dreadball and now Deadzone) was part of that battle-report and worked for WD at that time.

People were complaining about the decline of White Dwarf by about issue 150. It had by then stopped being a general role-playing mag and become a GW catalogue.

However I will lock the thread owing to necronisation.