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ET- The first game to be hated by everyone, and every species of animal on earth.

That game was indeed terrible. Werent they forced to bury the games in texas?

brad3104 wrote:RTS- Starcraft Broodwar hands down. I don't really think this is open for debate. Most balanced RTS ever. All 3 races are equal at the pro level....the only thing that sways matches overall are the maps. Certain maps are favored to certain races in general. Over a 10 year old game and still has ITS OWN professional scene in korea that generates millions of dollars. www.teamliquid.net is the main site for americans to follow the scene in korea.

edit: Age of Empire 2 doesnt even come close to Starcraft lol...

Starcraft is not balanced. It's all rock-paper-scissors. Not at all a good concept. Great game, yes, but not innovative.

Chrysaor686 wrote:Wolfenstein was actually the father of the first person shooter. Doom was simply based off the Wolfenstein 3D engine, though it was much more popular.

Thank you! I thought the whole board was filled with kids who think the world was created in 1995.

So if we're going to look at roots...

Pong - head to head gaming is born
Pac Man - first game to cross over into popular culture (music, TV show, cover of Time magazine)
Ms. Pacman - The video game sequel is born
Zork - Storylines appear
Bard's Tale - first RPG with graphics (??? let me know if I'm wrong)

Everything since these is just refining the graphics package.

Darth wrote:That game was indeed terrible. Werent they forced to bury the games in texas?

Well they produced more cartrages than there were Atrai 2600s so yeah.

Even funnier, they were dug up years later by some nostalgia merchant to sell.

Cheese Elemental wrote:

brad3104 wrote:RTS- Starcraft Broodwar hands down. I don't really think this is open for debate. Most balanced RTS ever. All 3 races are equal at the pro level....the only thing that sways matches overall are the maps. Certain maps are favored to certain races in general. Over a 10 year old game and still has ITS OWN professional scene in korea that generates millions of dollars. www.teamliquid.net is the main site for americans to follow the scene in korea.

edit: Age of Empire 2 doesnt even come close to Starcraft lol...

Starcraft is not balanced. It's all rock-paper-scissors. Not at all a good concept. Great game, yes, but not innovative.

lol Starcraft is a far from rock paper scissors as you can get....do you follow the korean scene at all? its hands down by far the most balanced RTS of all time...hence why a 10 year old game is being played by pros....the top pros getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars per year and have movie star status....how many 10 year old games are still played on a professional level?

the races are so balanced...the maps is are what tends to sway things like i said....watch a few recent games....jon747 youtube channel to learn more.

I will say this, and it will sound like a fanboy remark; I think that Dawn of War was rather innovative.

It was one of the first games that allowed units to do BOTH melee and ranged attacks. The morale system is new too I think.

Kohan had morale before Dawn of War, but it was a more realistic system. When your units break, they don't just stand there and take damage, they run for their lives. There, Kohan: Immortal Sovreigns (sp?) is a very innovative RTS game, adding great company management and a realistic morale system. AFAIK, it might have been the first RTS game with a cover system as well.

Age of empires had both melee and attack. In fact I'd bet on their being a number of games with this before Dawn of War.

Nothing entirely new here, but it's my list so take it as you may. Probably out of order.

Pong
Pacman
Super Mario Bros
Final Fantasy
Sonic
Pin Bot
Super Mario World
Doom
Street Fighter 2 Turbo
Mortal Combat
Goldeneye
Final Fantasy 3
Nights (saturn game)
FF7
Jurassic Park (the pinball game)
Tekken
Metal Gear Solid
Starcraft
Diablo 2
Halo
Everquest
Madden 02 (or whatever year it was that started the sole-licensing situation for the NFL)
Grand Theft Auto 3
Fable
Gears of War
World of Warcraft

Looking into the future:
Starcraft 2
Diablo 3
I'm a Blizzard Junkie, but I really believe that these games will be nearly as popular and long running as the fore-runners.

I haven't played anything new in years and am missing probably more than a few. From my perspective I look at these games as the benchmarks. They either redefined or defined their respective genre. Without any of these games you would not have the gaming industry at the point it is today. I know it's pretty subjective, but it is what I believe.