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I am surprised that no one has mentioned Ultima Online, or Everquest the first for MMO's which now are a huge part of the PC gaming market.

Duke Nukem Forever when it comes out in 2012. All the prophecies were true.

Anti-Mag wrote:Eve: Online.

The most poopsocking game ever created. Now if they can only combine it with WOW's success...

Arctik Firangi wrote:Before I go, I'll add Virtua Fighter to the list. First 3D-rendered fighter.

Chaplain Pallantide wrote:I am surprised that no one has mentioned Ultima Online

Thanatos_elNyx wrote:Well C&C created the the genre. Starcraft was the most popular

I swear, no one reads my posts...

@Thanatos_elNyx - Dune II created the RTS genre. Even if Command and Conquer was also from Westwood Studios, Dune came first.

Pong

Was Battle Isle the first turn based wargame? If not, what came before that?
Even if the reign of turn based tactic games are over, it spawned a lot of games.

Greets
Schepp himself

The original Unreal. When you first saw that waterfall, all those years ago... the Unreal engine in itself has been a great development, spawning a few interesting games along the way.

Age of Empires 2 is the epitome of RTS games. Bioshock gives you an amazing story, great fun, adn some genuine sacary moments. I still don't understand how the Big Daddies are amde. Please explain?

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:Age of Empires 2 is the epitome of RTS games. Bioshock gives you an amazing story, great fun, adn some genuine sacary moments. I still don't understand how the Big Daddies are amde. Please explain?

really i disagree there, the greatest RTS is C&C Red Alert 1, that was when RTS games were at the peak.

I have to disagree with Metal Gear Solid 4 being the "first truly next generation" game. That title is, and always will go to Mass Effect in my mind.
The story? Awesome.
The gameplay? Awesome.
Loading a sniper rifle with friggin' high explosive rounds while fighting *TANKS*? AWESOME.

That is all.

99MDeery wrote:

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:Age of Empires 2 is the epitome of RTS games. Bioshock gives you an amazing story, great fun, adn some genuine sacary moments. I still don't understand how the Big Daddies are amde. Please explain?

really i disagree there, the greatest RTS is C&C Red Alert 1, that was when RTS games were at the peak.

Will, i think age of empires, imo. It was the first one I ever played, and it was really fun. Seriousl though, how the hell are big daddies made?!

I'm going to give a shout out to my favorites back in the mid 90's: Sim City 2000 and Civilization 2. Both occupied my life for way too many hours. Sim city had the isometric view, the scalable real time, the varied Midi score, and was utterly open ended. Civ2 (and MOO2, for that matter) were turned based micro management geekfests. Sim City lead to the Sim everything serious, and Civ2 basically laid the template for all turn based 2d strategy games since.

to give you an idea of how old Sim City 2000 is, the player is limited in how many advanced buildings he can place on the map because they only allocated enough memory to them to support 255 seperate processes.

I'd have to throw Populous on the pile, I don't know if it's too old, but for being held on a single Floppy it was a great game, and was the first really successful "god game." Black and White did a similar thing, with better graphics and far more annoying game play, IMO.

Speaking of turn based strategy, the good old Total War series has brought new validity to the entire genre by combining real time battles with turn based strategic movement. throw in a great graphics engine (used by the History channel to recreate ancient battles) and you've got a classic. I still play Rome: TW, because my poor machine can't handle Medieval II.

Donkey kong

i guess something like pokemon for the gameboy would count here right?

call of duty 4 has set the bar pretty high in terms of FPS's, so i would throw that in there too.

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:Seriousl though, how the hell are big daddies made?!

It's a secret. In order to find out you have to

Polonius, You're so right. I played civ 2 so many times that I could do it and paint miniatures at the same time. It was the only game where I would gladly sit infront of a computer for 12-15 hours. Nothing else comes close.

Ozymandias wrote:

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:Seriousl though, how the hell are big daddies made?!

It's a secret. In order to find out you have to

Spoiler:

start your own damn thread!

You sir win many internets.

Im going to add my two cents, working backwards, for today's games back to my first:

Recent
Killzone 2: This game has brough amazing AI, stunning graphics and great story lines to the table, setting a bench mark for game to follow.

Stalker: Shadow of Chernybol: This game has brought some of the best gaming engines to the industry, this game has fantastic gameplay with so much freedom and realism.

Company of Heroes: This game has changed the face of RTS, most noticable is Dawn of War 2, breaking from its previous style to adopt this new and additive style. Allowing the player to very get involved, well done THQ.

Resistance 2: This game has blown open the online gaming capacity, to up to 60 players, with large servers and fluent game play.

Halo [1]: This game brought online gaming to the forfront of gaming.

Old
Starcraft: This game really showed how a RTS can be done and brought many into the gaming area.

Red Alert/Command and Conquer: These games opened up peoples eyes to what the gaming industry was doing and were it was going, i still love to play these and the lastest ones are great!

The Legend of Zelda: One of the best puzzle games made!

Final Fantasy: Making RPG popular was no easy task but these games started it all [the first big ones any way] and are still going strong!!

Super Mario Bros. pretty much invented side-scrolling platformers. Also, Super Mario Galaxy is ridiculously inventive as well, but it doesn't really do anything incredible.

Strimen wrote:Here is one that I feel is missing:

Marathon - The first ever 3D shooter and an awesome dark gritty setting.

Doom came before Marathon. I think you're thinking of Pathways into Darkness.

Games that marked leaps forward in the game industry?

I would have to say, in no particular order, that the main ones would be; Goldeneye; fro its revolutionary multiplayer, Mario Bros.; for its side-scrolling innovations, the Doom and Marathon series; for their contributions towards the progress of 3D shooters/games and GTA 3, for sandbox games.

My honourable mentions include;
Halo: CE; for the addition of regenerative health, which was henceforth adopted as the primary health system in FPSs, The Mortal Kombat series; for adding something fresh to the fighting genre, Final Fantasy series; for its visuals and RPG elements, Halo 2; for popularizing online console gaming, Shadowrun; for cross-platform gaming, Skate; for revitalising the stale skateboarding genre, GTA IV; for its implementation of Euphoria and uniquely realistic and intricate gameplay features, and many more that I can't remember right now.

Edit: Oh, yeah, and STALKER cause that game is the shizzlestick.

That post was great.


Hilarious stuff. along with some good insight on the history of gaming.

Was Another World the first cinematic game? You know, one that tried to simulate a movie through its gameplay?

sebster wrote:Was Another World the first cinematic game? You know, one that tried to simulate a movie through its gameplay?

I think Dragon's Lair was more of a cinematic game, and was eariler.
Another World (Out of this World) was cool, but was pretty similar to Prince of Persia.

The most influential games in my mind are:
Pong
Space Invaders
Prince of Persia
Kings Quest
Super Mario Bros.
X Wing
Warcraft
Diablo
GTA
Oddworld
SimCity
The Sims
Doom

Golden Eye for the N64. Even today people still refer to it as one of their favourite all time games

Tomb Raider 1-3. Amazing games that hooked people for hours

The Sims. whilst aimed at the more 'casual' gamer, it actually took a lot of people who 'don't play games' and made them gamers

Wii sports, lacks depth but utilised a totally revolutionary use for motion sensors

Gran Turismo - showed that realistic driving games could be good. still prefer them to the car modifying scene.

guitar hero - personally hate it but you can't deny that it was revolutionary and different.

vice city - first 3d gta game so all others owe their success to it.

Vice City came after GTA3... which was the first 3d GTA game.

gta3 was the first 3d gta

Didn't I just say that?

Defender: Intelligent enemies, scrolling terrain, Particle effects.

Populous: First god game. Create a world watch it adapt to your changes.

Dune 2: First popular RTS (before C&C)

Chrysaor686 wrote:Grand Theft Auto IV, on the other hand, actually has things that are immersive while also affecting what you do within the game. You can lose hours logging into the internet created specifically for the game (with somewhere around 200 working websites that sometimes actually effect the game, such as the dating websites or missions you get through your e-mail), watching the television programming (which is often as hilarious as the series' trademark radio, including spoofs of real life shows like 24 and CSI), going to a Comedy Club and watching real acts of Ricky Gervais and Kat Williams (Kat Williams even re-wrote his routine to include references to Liberty City), calling up a friend to see if they want to go get drunk, play pool, or any of the other numerous minigame activities (Your friends also have a schedule, and will get pissed if you call too late, or ask you to pick them up from a different location depending on what day and time it is), or even dialing 911 and asking for the 'assistance' of the Police, Firefighters, or an Ambulance.

Did you play the same game I did? I got bored off all that stuff almost instantly. An in-game internet full of gta's sarcastic humour which beyond reading and working alongside missions (which were mind numbingly repetetive and boring by the way) didn't do much else. The tv station was just a 'laugh every five minutes' video on a loop. The few minigames there were you couldn't even play in the online modes (which was the only decent gamplay in the game). It was like they gave you this beautifull world to play in and then didn't give you much to do in it. They took out tons of features which were in San Andreas because of "realism." Realism? Wtf? Since when did anyone play video games for realism. If they gave me the previous games with the better driving physics and the online modes I'd choose their outdated graphics and dodgy combat system anyday.

When it comes to gta, the first one, Vice city and san an ftw.

My stand out evolutionary games:

pro ev 3: Kicked the market leader (fifa) out the park and showed football games could actually work like real football. Fifa has only just caught up.

gran turismo: Before this racing games went little further than what you get in an arcade. After it they just copied.

The Sims: Created it's own genre, not another game like it before or since (excluding the sequel).

Personally I find it funny that many people were amazed by the split-screen multiplayer of Goldeneye.

As a Nintendo Console fan back in those days the split screen was already extremely familiar to me by virtue of the SNES game Super Mario Kart.

I just loved that balloon battle mode, IMO none of the later Mario Karts managed to recreate the experience of the 16 bit Kart arenas.

RTS- Starcraft Broodwar hands down. I don't really think this is open for debate. Most balanced RTS ever. All 3 races are equal at the pro level....the only thing that sways matches overall are the maps. Certain maps are favored to certain races in general. Over a 10 year old game and still has ITS OWN professional scene in korea that generates millions of dollars. www.teamliquid.net is the main site for americans to follow the scene in korea.

edit: Age of Empire 2 doesnt even come close to Starcraft lol...

I"m surprised there is less love given to platformers. I know they're less popular now, but Donkey Kong lead to super Mario brothers, and then for 15 years consoles lived or died with it's best platformers.

Starfox was amazing when it came out.

It galls me, but wouldn't Everquest or WoW have to be on this list by now?