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OK so everyone is complaining about there being no accessory sprue . . . but who's to say that there isn't going to be one in the box . . . just because there wasn't one in the Black Box doesn't mean there won't be one in full box. After all the 2 sprues are interchangeable with the ones out of the current LR sprues, other than the accessory sprue in there. So maybe the accessory sprue is the same as the current one.

This is true.

The accessory sprue has some nice items on it, but for game play by the new IG Codex it is superfluous. All essential parts like the top hatch for the Demolisher and Hellhound models are now on the only 2 sprues that come in the box for each of these kits.

Where are the Pintle Guns? And Hunter-Killer missile?

BrassScorpion wrote:The accessory sprue has some nice items on it, but for game play by the new IG Codex it is superfluous. All essential parts like the top hatch for the Demolisher and Hellhound models are now on the only 2 sprues that come in the box for each of these kits.

Some of the upgrades like the Dozer Blade, Hunter Killer Missile or pintle-mounted weapons aren't on the new sprues, so you'd still need an accesoires sprue for those.

Edit: Too slow

This obviously brings to the conclusion that there is another sprue in the box.

Bla_Ze wrote:This obviously brings to the conclusion that there is another sprue in the box.

I wouldn't be too sure of that.

BrookM wrote:

Bla_Ze wrote:This obviously brings to the conclusion that there is another sprue in the box.

I wouldn't be too sure of that.

Agreed.

Actually, GW should pull the accessory sprues from *all* IG tanks and then start selling IG accessory sprues a la carte in a few months...

This would make them lots of PROFIT!

DO YOU HEAR ME, GW?!?

I have 6 of the accessory spures left over from my Chimera's. Most are just missing the flamer & a smoke launcher.

The accessory sprue is already available from the GW Bitz Pack service and has been available that way for many months. It is also still included with the existing IG kits that are not yet being reissued. Anyone building a new IG army will still have optional bits from the accessory sprues from building the Chimera and regular Leman Russ and they can buy additional accessory sprues from the Bitz Pack service. As for the new Demolisher and Hellhound kits, it's not an accident that all the essential bits for those vehicles are now on just two sprues each. If you're expecting the accessory sprue to be included in those kits, that might be construed as unfounded optimism.

The price of the Leman Russ and Chimera went up when the new accessory sprue was introduced. Now it's not there, the price is the same (higher, actually) and we're expected to buy it separately?

No thanks.

We still don't know if the sprue is included or not.

The following text from the GW online store clearly shows the accessory sprue is not included. Everything listed is on 2 sprues. One industrious person commenting on BoLS even went so far as to count the bits on the 2 sprues for the Demolisher and found it matches the following text:

"This 98-piece kit includes all of the sponson and hull-mounted weapon options available to Leman Russ tank variants, including: a lascannon, heavy bolters, heavy flamers, multi-meltas, and plasma cannons. Also included are a Tank Commander, smoke launchers, and a sheet of water slide transfers."
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1430057&prodId=prod50019a

I'm at loss for words... they removed the pinte mounted weapons...? that has been inclucled since what? 2ed?

Of course they're still in the kit, GW may be greedy, but they don't want to lose players.

No they just want to lose veteran players.

H.B.M.C. wrote:No they just want to lose veteran players.

Knuckleheaded move on GW's part. I would think this is more of a hit to new players. I've got bit boxes full of everything on that accessory sprue already.

It's not a bad move by GW at all. Veteran Gamers, like Tournament Gamers, exist on the fringe of the GW hobby, and get in the way more than they help the game. Once GW can eliminate Veteran Gamers and Tournament gamers, then they can really get to work - tank kits that don't even contain all the parts, let alone the accessory sprue, so you have to buy two boxes to get a single tank, Infantry sprues that contain models from different races, so you have to play two races.

And they'll double the prices on everything. And that's after they double the price.

They'll also send cease and desist orders to all stores that are discounting their products, telling those stores to actually increase the prices, making GW stores the actual discount stores.

Meanwhile Jervis will continue to write congratulatory letters to himself that he can publish in WD and pretend they came from other people.

H.B.M.C. wrote:The price of the Leman Russ and Chimera went up when the new accessory sprue was introduced. Now it's not there, the price is the same (higher, actually) and we're expected to buy it separately?

It would be somewhat understandable if GW priced based on the sprue count, so if the new kit has more sprues... But I'm guessing this isn't the case.

I don't like it. The huge gun's bad enough but call me picky - I like those separate bits (little hatches for the sides, separate grille on top etc). They give more freedom to customise and if you use the sponsons those little hatches come in very handy for detailing other bits. I won't be buying it, I'll be going for FW versions. Thanks for the dissapointment GW!

Well I can confirm that it does not have the accessory sprue in it.

Tzscrewed again. Thanks GW.

Who knows, maybe GW realised that when someone bought a lot of tanks (like me), they got a lot of accessory sprues (like I have), and that as each accessory sprue has a complete Cadian on it (useful, no?), someone with enough tanks (like me) could actually start building squads out of those bitz (like I have), thereby giving them free models (depending on your definition of 'free'), and cutting them out of sales of infantry. This also explains why 20 Cadians went from $50 to $70.

No that last paragraph wasn't serious.

BrookM wrote:

Bla_Ze wrote:This obviously brings to the conclusion that there is another sprue in the box.

I wouldn't be too sure of that.

Agreed. It could be, but not necessarily.

I'm fairly sure that HBMC is unhappy with the new Russ...

I'm still not sure about the revised turret. The existing Russ turret needed to be wider and taller, but their redesign looks sort of squashed and front-heavy, and with the demolisher cannon fitted the proportions look off. However, I think it looks quite good with that massive plasma cannon. It means it's not even pretending to be a realistic tank - it's clearly a sci-fi model.

The redesigned hull is a mixed bag. There are some good new details, like improved exhausts. I'm not so keen on the side escape hatches and cupola not being separate pieces. I always disliked the fact that there are 2 excape hatches on each side, and they will be harder to hide now if the sponsons aren't fitted (applique armour on the sides will do it, but it means hacking the hatches off). The revised tracks are a good idea, although I didn't have any problem with the Russ's tracks (the Chimera's were always fiddly though). Obviously it's a big plus getting all the weapon options, and that seems to have taken precedence over providing other parts separately. Overall, it's more of a wargaming model and less of a kit, if that makes sense.

It seems pretty clear the accessory sprue won't be included, as some of the bits that are (were) on it are now on these 2 sprues (the searchlight, for instance, and the smoke dischargers). That's a shame, as there were several really useful bits on that sprue, like the jerrycans, packs, blanket rolls, fuel tank, tow cable and dozer blade. And, as has been pointed out, the pintle weapon options aren't included on the new sprues (although, curiously, the turret cupola has a mounting point for the pintle-mounted weapon). I suppose there's a chance there will be a revised Guard tank accessory sprue at some point.

H.B.M.C. wrote:The price of the Leman Russ and Chimera went up when the new accessory sprue was introduced. Now it's not there, the price is the same (higher, actually) and we're expected to buy it separately?

No thanks.

Agreed. As noted, Tamiya makes better accessories. Further, in the US you can get them at every Hobby Lobby bopping around.

The Leman Russ Demolisher and Hellhound boxes will be of the same format at the Ork Trukk, which are 3,5 cm's or one inch and a little bit on top of that. Just enough room for two sprues. All part of GW's business plan to put more boxes on the shelves, hence the elimination of "redundant" parts and extra sprues.

Check out this close up look at the two sprues out of the actual retail box at Work In Progress.

There are copies of GW advertising pictures at that link as well. Most of the weapons in the pictures are glued on upside down!

Unless you guys have seen something I haven't, I'd assume the accessory spure is still in there. It isn't a new sprue, so why show it off?

Considering that the box art has no pintle mounted weapon or even track guards I think its safe to assume that people will have to buy them separately.

Pretty sure they already sell this accessory sprue online as well.

The whole LR concept is just laughably unfeasible. To me that's the end of it. The LR is a contender alongside Nagash as one of GW's worst looking models EVAR! The enormous, genital-shaped appendage on this version just multiplied that by x2.

Of course that's only my personal aesthetic values speaking.

melon-fething witches did the heavy bolter upside down? The feth.. Oh wait.