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CajunMan550 wrote:Lol A metal space Marine frame unless you did like tin would probly way like 150 pnds haha. Even reg full plate armor is like 80 pnds that'd suck without like hydrolics inside.

My full plate including helmet weighs about 30 kgs, and is made of 3mm steel. So, 1 mm steel should do ok .

no no no, no battling in this suit- I dont wanna be making repairs on my baby hahaha. Display only for now.

How exactly would I make a frame out of metal though? (at the risk of sounding like a tech heretic) cant i just do a wood frame then hammer the metal over it?

If you won't be battling in it, consider aluminium or even PVC; when heated, it can be shaped and I've seen people make some very nice stuff out of it.

As for a frame: you bend it, hammer it, and rivet it. If you have the material, welding (or smithing) it may be options as well. Yep, it's noisy .

CajunMan wrote:Lol A metal space Marine frame unless you did like tin would probly way like 150 pnds haha. Even reg full plate armor is like 80 pnds that'd suck without like hydrolics inside.

That's a common missconception from people who never weared an armour and believes all what they see from movies.

The_Chaplain wrote:How exactly would I make a frame out of metal though? (at the risk of sounding like a tech heretic) cant i just do a wood frame then hammer the metal over it?

If you make a wooden frame, you'll destroy it when hammering on it. You just need the sheets of steel cutted with the pattern you need and, if you don't want to get an anvil with it's stakes, you'll just need a dishing concavity (easy to make), a good steel pipe and a biiig peenball hammer.

For moulding the steel, I recommend a 400gr hammer, and I glued on it's flat face raw hide (obtainable from dog chew toys at petshops) so the hammer won't leave marks on the steel.

Just wishing you luck on this project, always happy to see solid 40k costumes It's a bit of a back up, but what dust mask is that? Good ones are hard to come by, and that one has a nice shape to it. Pity it isn't in black / dark grey, but that can be fixed.

- Salvage

@Dark: yeah I'll definently pm you if my buddy and I go the metal route, that sounds durable to say the least.

@ Boss_Salvage: it's the 7500 model mask from the company 3M. I ordered mine online at cooper safety for a little over 20 dollars.

Thanks for the posts guys, it's really making up for a craptastic day (found out I'm really sick at the doctors, she said it's most likely shingles >_< )

expect a pic of the work in progress rebreather mask in the next 2 hours, gonna borrow a friends camera after I pick up prescriptions.

If you do go aluminium, you can't go too wrong with T5 aircraft aluminium. I have a large scutum made from that for fighting, and it is nearly invincible, but fairly light. The thing is around 4' tall and weighs less than 15 pounds.

I definitely would stay away from wood though. Metal, leather or moulded plastic would all be lighter and easier to shape, as well as breathing a lot better.

Trust us armor geeks: metal is far lighter than people claim it to be, and armor is far easier to wear than it is to carry, so don't get too worried if you suit seems a bit heavy for you.

Wehrkind wrote:I have a large scutum made from that for fighting, and it is nearly invincible, but fairly light. The thing is around 4' tall and weighs less than 15 pounds.

You know Wehr, I so misread that line

- Salvage

That might explain why I am so popular with the SCA ladies...

Gah still no updates after 2 hours!

I will definately be keeping tabs on this thread, it has always been a dream of mine to build a space marine costume for a con, the only difference is in my dream it is ceramite.... and im 2' feet taller.... Barring that the costume is made of metal. Also, nice idea with the augmetic eye.

I apologize profusely for not having the picture up several hours ago, I went straight to inglorious basterds and a bar after getting my prescription filled- the latter against my will.



This is just an idea of what the mask is gonna look like. I plan on adding some more techy bits (like tubes) onto it, and really reinfrce the skull on there (freaking rain has made it start to peel as its not 100% glued shut).

It needs a lot more work, and I apologize for the dark pic it was the best I could manage tonight.

are you going to paint the skull part silver?

are you going to paint the skull part silver?

Yes, once the mask is fully fastened and teched up I will be coating it in silver paint.

What kind of helm are you aiming for? tbh i dislike the skull but i might be wrong since it is still WIP, the majority of the work you have done so far is great and i hope that you will have your complete armour in no time

It's just going to be a rebreather. I'm not exactly sure on how to make a comfortable breathable helmet- so that may come at a later date.

yeah it's still wip- come the the 30th of september (my self appointed deadline for the rebreather/audio filters/ eye piece it'll look better.

(and if it turns out I dont like the skull or it becomes too large a pain in the ass I can always find some grating to integrate into the front of the rebreather)

How are you going to do the mechy bitz?

How are you going to do the mechy bitz?

shower grates, cable, styrofoam as the base of the back head plates (coated in bondo to harden then painted) and Ill try and feed a camelbak feed into it leading into the backpack so that I can drink as necessary throughout the day without having to peel off the mask.

Tabard 2, as its not based on the black templar, grr black templar,

when can we expect upcates?

when can we expect upcates?

excellent question, Im in the process of unpacking stuff as I just moved down to university this week and everything is jumbled-- I might be able to have a little summary post or video and a teaser of upcoming updates this evening but as always I cant make a promise, as it also depends on the level of tech I have available.

cheers

Why are you using Stryofoam? Why not use sintra/Komotec? It is a lightweight expanded PVC board. Easy to cut with a hacksaw, knife or dremel. It is also called "expanded PVC" You can get it from sign stores or online.

am in the process of making a Mandolorian Merc, and it is being incorparated into the armor I am building.

The_Chaplain wrote:I downloaded the guide that these guys made for their space marine armor the other day

Man those are cool can you send me the diagrams on put a link up? I want to make the bolter and chainsword.

The_Chaplain wrote:

no no no, no battling in this suit- I dont wanna be making repairs on my baby hahaha.

What about the furries you must purge while wearing that?

If anything you could probably make the suit and put a layer of metal on all the parts that could get damaged and you're not making a helmet right?

also just wondering what are you going to wear under that?

howdy all, first week of classes is almost at an end, and what a chaotic week its been! Ive managed to save a couple hundred dollars on school books-- so I am going to do something a little unorthodox. I am scrapping the rebreather and going to be making a full helmet instead.

I have been talking with a costume prop creator, who has resin casts of marine helmets for sale- she is willing to cut some off the price and send me the back half of the helmet but ill have to paint it and such myself (which i would prefer actually). this is a pic of one of the helmets:


The reason for the half helmet is because when I was at the local PX the other day I came accross THIS:


it looks a lot better in person, and has mirrored eyes (so people outside can only see the red light shining out, though you can see perfectly).

Once the helmet arrives, it will simply be a matter of fitting it into the faceplate slot and adding any additional padding I need (a friend donated a set of motorcycle helmet pads for this),as well as repainting parts, like the skull as a bleached bone tone. the end result? a chaplain's helmet!

@Typhus-- I will be wearing a form fitting long sleeve shirt for the torso, and probably a pair of black tights for the legs for breathability. that way any spaces in the armor arent exposing bare flesh (as would be the case with tshirt and shorts.) Ill end up adding some sheet metal plating to a pair of construction boots for the power feet.

cheers all, I apologize for the lack of update pics of late- but they will be coming in due time. Also, I have found a program that allows me to record and convert speech and save it as mp3s and rip it to my ipod- so it may be possible to record speeches and what not in marine voices and play them in costume. Ill try and upload one to youtube to show what im talking about.

Thanks for keeping interest gang, cheers! (off to lecture)

You could eliminate the knee pad problem if you used mk6 leg armor. I have been thinking if you built the under structure out of pink or blue insulation foam then coated that with fiberglass it will be both light and sturdy and you can paint the fiberglass with automotive paint.

sonofruss wrote:You could eliminate the knee pad problem if you used mk6 leg armor. I have been thinking if you built the under structure out of pink or blue insulation foam then coated that with fiberglass it will be both light and sturdy and you can paint the fiberglass with automotive paint.

Yeah, I could make them mk 6 greaves- but Im still gonna need some way of keeping them from sliding, and able to bend. Thats really an issue I can address when the time comes I think.

In an unrelated note, youtube is being a bastard and not letting me upload mp3 files on its website

This should be really cool. Can't wait to see it done. If you are making a chaplain suit, what weapons will you use? Not just a bolted I expect.

Valcatta wrote:This should be really cool. Can't wait to see it done. If you are making a chaplain suit, what weapons will you use? Not just a bolted I expect.

powerfist with a built in flamer and either an elaborate sword or a mace to act as a "crozius". (think vulkan hestan as a chaplain)
I'm looking at larp weapons, since they are either foam or latex <conventions have strict rules against dense wood or metal weapons>. If you all have a suggestion, or know a website im all ears.

the powerfist will pose a unique set of challenges, as i hope to make it fully articulated; meaning i can move the fingers and even clench the fist. I have ideas on a spring and hinge system- but how to attach manipulators and make a housing for my real fist will be interesting.

I'll try and get a couple sketches up this weekend including the powerfist mechanism design up here in a post this weekend, as well as a sketch i did for the cloak design which im having someone sew for me.

Just as long as it doesn't end up looking like this:



You should be okay, even without articulating fingers

Thunder Hammer:
http://www.strongblade.com/prod/sbf-weap-ovrldbttlehmmr.html

They have some other weapons that might work as Power Weapons.

These fellows have an even bigger selection of LARP weapons:
http://www.medievalcollectables.com/c-6-larp-weapons.aspx

Edit: Just noticed this: http://www.medievalcollectables.com/p-2521-imperial-commander-long-sword.aspx