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Why do you not attend gaming tournaments (check all that apply)?
The monetary cost (travel, hotel, entry fees, etc)
Tournaments bring out hyper-competitiveness, which I despise
Too many rules arguments
I don't like playing in fast-paced, intense games
I'm a slow player and I don't think I'll finish my games
I'm not a good enough player and I'll probably lose a bunch
I don't think I'm a good enough painter
I don't have a fully painted army
crowded halls and/or gamer stench
I don't have any armies that are strong enough to compete
I'm afraid of cheaters
Its too tiring to spend all day on my feet
There aren't enough theme and composition restrictions anymore
There isn't enough emphasis on sportsmanship scoring anymore
There isn't enough emphasis on modeling/painting scoring anymore
There are too many similar army builds
OTHER (please write-in)
NONE of the reasons listed stop me from attending tournaments

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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard






Newcastle, OZ

None of those reasons apply to me.

I used to go to 3-4 tournaments a year (to play) when I was younger and single.

Now, I'm lucky to get in two a year as a player. I still try to drop in on another two to keep in touch and check stuff out though.

Sports, painting, theme/comp are all pretty big things at Oz tournies. You can win all your battles (massacre) and still come third - you need to at least ace the sports or theme or painting to ensure victory.

Jerks are jerks, regardless of whether or not they are gamers. They don't stop me going. They make me hope I don't play them, but that's it.

The main reason I don't go to as many any more is time.
I just don't have the time to do it anymore.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/09/11 23:39:48


I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.

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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh






Dallas, TX

I voted none! I'll gladly spend money to play competitive games against painted armies, in venues that feature all-day gaming, sometimes for several days! I'll request days off for that anytime. I attended the big waaagh! this year and played solid games Friday, Saturday and most of Sunday. I haven't had as much gaming fun in a long time! Definitely a worthwhile way to spend a weekend.

As for rules bending and breaking, I'm well aware that there's multiple rather broken ways to read certain rules. I prepare for them as much as I can, state my case, and go by what the TO says. I watch for cheating armed with a good knowledge of the rules of the game and when I see it, I call it out, confident that I'm in the right. Nothing really to stress over or not enjoy myself for

40k Armies I play:


Glory for Slaanesh!

 
   
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Deadly Tomb Guard




South Carolina

Sounds to me like some people have bad luck with power gamers who dont know how to have a good time. When I went to Ard boyz I got pawned, only player I beat was a mech space marine list. The first guy I played was talking about he was a noob and didnt feel confident he could beat, he got 2nd overall in the end. The last guy I played was a huge procrastnater which annoyed me a bit but other then that it was good times had by all. Ive ran into a power gamer once or twice in my time a generaly i dont play them. I play mostly with friends. A little competion is good for the soul it builds charcter but acting like a 4 year old when you win big or lose big well thats just bad sportmanship.

 
   
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Stalwart Tribune




Australia

i play tournaments, but only the ones organized at my local GW store.

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Sinewy Scourge







I started two months ago. I don't believe there have been any tourneys since I started. If there have, I don't know about them...

   
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Longtime Dakkanaut






Brisbane/Australia

Only if I go with a bunch of friends.

Funnily enough, you can always make new ones too which is cool.

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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores





I despise hyper competitiveness, but I also can't stand the fact that a close game that ends in a tie is the most fun, but it's not a good thing in a tournament since you're supposed to crush them as hard as possible to get a solid win.

That helps ruin it for me.

 
   
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot




Burbank, CA

Tournaments are fun, but they can be annoying when you are stuck with immature, stupid, or cheaty opponents. 95% of the people I've played against in tournaments are kind, respectful, and fun players. it's not worth it not to go because of the other 5%, unless you are the other 5%, then just stay home! Never get too hung up on winning though. No matter how great your army list and strategies are, your still playing with Dice, and it's all up to luck really!!

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Sniveling Snotling






United Kingdom

I would like to play more but am afraid I dont know the rules well enough, and i always get some young kid telling me something like, "OMG ! you left you dudes exposed !"
........but im using this power sword ?? ...........
"yeah but my super techno electronic sonic mega blast shield defeats your power sword with a 5 .0 avarage yar" "now feel the power, can you feel it mortal ? aarrrrgh all you troops are dead ! RAAAAAAGH ! "

P.S. and then you get the players who role dice at the speed of light, the kids with the computer brains, giving it, "Yar my 3 beats your 4 +5 -6 AV3 power sword techno gak 1 2 3 need a 3+, i got it, all your troops are dead, feel the power, can you feel it mortal RAAAAAGH ! "

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Nasty Nob






Joplin, Missouri

Wow, what a list of reasons. I checked Other and I did so because I've missed tourneys on purpose because I either knew the organizers, or understood in advance that it would not be an enjoyable event.

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Freelance Soldier






There's a bunch of great sounding tourneys that happen in my area, but I work weekends. None of those great tourneys are in the middle of the week.

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Armandloft wrote:There's a bunch of great sounding tourneys that happen in my area, but I work weekends. None of those great tourneys are in the middle of the week.
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps






meh, the main reason I GO to tournaments is to play several games in a fairly short timespan, with rules that are different from what i'm used to.

maybe i'm just lucky there are montly games at my LGS' (2 of them), the closest being like 2 miles from my house, the furthest being 8 miles

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Bane Knight





Netherlands

I have had my tourney experience stopped after 1 tourney. I won my first round with a slaughter result (4 rounds and no casualtys on my side) with a slaanesh army. My opponent (13th company) let my sportsmanship sink and I did not laugh at them or do anything to warrant that (friends confirmed me of that).
Then in the following rounds the opponents where just not the kind of people I really like to play with. I like playing casual games, not high competitive games. And I mean that more in a sense of not bitching over a millimetre or a small rule-misconception. I do like bringing an army that can hang with the rest, but I play casual all the time...

in short: it is not my kind of scene...

 
   
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Mysterious Techpriest







People just get too competitive and often bring those same monotonous, hyper-competitive builds like chimera phalanxes and dual lash princes. I want to play a relaxed game, share fluff and chat about P&M.

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Fresh-Faced New User




I stopped over 18 months ago from playing in tournaments. Here is my list of reasons that fit in the other category:

1) Getting burned by my opponents on painting, sportsmanship, and army composition for destroying my opponent in the game. The worst example of this was in a doubles tournament after our opponents insulted our army choices ( Sister's of battle and my Imperial guard). Both tournament organizers asked us what happened after the game was over due to the score sheets but did nothing else. This has also happened on multiple occasions in other tournaments.
2) Painting requirements for the tourney not being met and no enforcements/consequences
3) Best painted army award going to a player without a fully painted army.
4) Not getting in a full six turns due to opponents being extremely slow players
5) Opponents not knowing the core rules but still question every rules query
6) Missions that favour one specific type of army (for example mobile assault) for all rounds
7) Use of illegal stratagems( city fight tournament) such as sewer rats without having a mission with reserves in it.
8) best overall award going to a player without a fully painted army

I know this seams like a rant but i can back it all up with multiple witnesses.
   
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Oberfeldwebel



Maryland

Basically: I have no interest in hanging with the WAAC, cheating, buying a painted army, screaming, rules lawyers that go to tournaments.

The faster Jervis drums them out of the hobby the better. Yes, really. we need a Standard Bearer that says:

"Dear tournament players, Eff off and play Warmachine. Love, Jervis."
   
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard






Newcastle, OZ

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:I started two months ago. I don't believe there have been any tourneys since I started. If there have, I don't know about them...


Check out WargamerAU forums under tourneys and conventions.
I don't think there is a single month in the calendar when there aren't at least two big tourneys running (every state has them, too).
There are club run tourneys (CanCon, MOAB, Leviathan, Arcanacon are some of the 'big' ones with multiple systems played over the 2-3 day weekends).
There are similar events in Brisbane (and Qld generally), SA and Adelaide and surrounds, WA (several places) not just Perth. I don't know about Tasmania or NT as I've not paid attention to either places (I have friends in all the other states - I only have relatives in Tas/NT )


I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.

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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch






VA Beach

I put the fact that I don't have an army big enough yet, and I don't have any finished army (yet). But I also hit other because there are not any tournaments close to me.


Let the galaxy burn.

 
   
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Horrific Howling Banshee





Maryland, USA

I only play tournaments at my FLGS, never at a GW store. I've found that GW stores breed power gamers and anoying little kids. Everyone at my FLGS loves to have a good time, and we can usualy have lots of fun.

We have a best over all (wins most games/pts) prize, and a best apperance prize. No sportsmanship prize, but thats no biggie, its hard to judge anyway sometimes.

I've only had one bad match at the FLGS, and it was just because the other guy was being a pain, and trying to power game. Oh... and thats the only time I ever saw him there! So hopefully all us fun loving people drove him over to the GW store where he belongs!

 
   
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I am limited more by Time than Money, although money is a factor. I go to a few Blood Bowl Tournaments but with a young baby getting a weekend away is difficult.

For Warhammer I would never go to anything larger than the local club 40k Tournament due to the poor quality of the rules.

Currently I do not play any other competitive war games.

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Focused Fire Warrior




Atlanta

In order...

  • Swiss-cheese ruleset that is 40k.

  • Lack of time

  • Poor painting skills and lack of time to paint

  • Money


  • As the level of the tournament increases, so too does the magnitude of each of the above. I attend approximately one tournament a month, usually local affairs in which I know the TO and know roughly how rulings will go, where I know how I stack up against other painters, where I can travel in an hour or so to reach, and I generally make a profit on my entry fee. Perhaps a nice raise I have my fingers crossed for would make a higher attendance rate possible, but with practically none of the events feeding into the Vegas GT being close to the Atlanta area (or in the southeast at all), I don't really see a point in traveling for much more than the 'ard boyz semis (finals only if there's prize support worthy of the trip this year).

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    Trondheim

    The reason I don`t attend tournaments is that my local Gw shop has closed down, and I am stuck with a local hobby shop. Witch is very good but lacks the number of players to make a tournament possible.

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    Awesome Autarch






    Las Vegas, NV

    You're missing out if you don't do the tournament thing, they are a lot of fun!

    Even if you are a crappy painter and not the best player, they are still fun as they allow you to meet new people and see loads of cool armies.

       
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    Raging Ravener




    Sealed in a box- in a state of flux

    For the most part, age. At 16, I really want to go to tournaments, but despite being 40 mins from WW, it's not fair to expect my parents to either drive me in and back both days or stay at a hotel. When I can drive, I will go to tounaments but with a casual demanour. The other problem is money.
    BTW, what is battlefields like for sportsmanship?


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    California

    My lgs fails to understand or monitor the games. Every tournament I go to the same guy cheats yet there is no way to call him out on it. In the last game he tryed to show me a model fit somewhere it didn't. He knocked over the entire assualt trying to make it fit and made it impossible to prove that it didn't as no models were in their original position. Thus that half an inch took us from first to thrid. That was the last straw. That said, I like casual games better. (And people who know and understand 5th editon rules.)
       
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    Water-Caste Negotiator



    Lafayette, IN, USA

    I voted for a few, but the real thing that gets to me is the money. I'm a poor college student, even more so than most. I'm in an aviation program, so I'm putting out around $25k a year.

    Other than that, it's the fact that I don't care to play by necessarily all of the rules, and I don't want to learn them all in one day at a tournament. I've just recently got back into the game, and my group hasn't caught up on 5th edition.

    Besides, I'm 18, and I like to have a few beers while we play in a smoke filled garage. So I guess environment.

    I don't have anything against the crowded halls and stank of gamer. I went to Gencon, held in Indianapolis, IN, for the Dragon Ball Z CCG, and it was a great time. I just don't want to be buggered with all of the rules and painting...

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    Lack a fully painted army, I'm not good enough, and OTHER:

    I'm too new, I need to be more familiar with the game before I can be confident enough to attend a tourney.

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    Woodbridge, VA

    Cancerien wrote:I like to have fun, joke and laugh when I'm playing.


    But... That's what I do when I play in tourneys.

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    Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





    San Diego, California

    Stormtrooper X wrote:My army isn't painted and my painting skills are on par with a chimp who would rather throw poo. Anytime my FLGS has a tournament that doesn't require a fully painted army though I like to compete.


    QFT.

    Additionally, being a full-time student and rower, I don't find time to get all the parts to do a true WYSIWYG, (i.e., converting veteran lasguns to melta/plasma guns), or the money.

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