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**Vulkan77**

Penis analogy? how do you mean i am a chef so i can give a girl a great time with 2 leaves of basil and some parsley!! but seriously, if the girl is anorexic use things like poridge oats, soups etc to build the strngthe up and then move onto more solid food

**Lord-Loss**

dogma wrote:penis

/Giggles

**Vulkan77**

@ Lord loss, why is penis funny?

**Wrexasaur**

Dunno really... finish that soup and stop messing around with that carrot though mate.

**Vulkan77**

Wrexasaur, you might have peeled first!!

**Golden Eyed Scout**

Vulkan77 wrote:Fifteen seconds with some bacon and a fried egg

I was actually implying I would relentlessly strike her skull until fifteen seconds have passed in which case I melt into the ether, my duty done.

**Wrexasaur**

Nope, I was busy having fun with this tomato... oh man, what a tomato this is.

**Vulkan77**

I agree, but disapearnce into the ether? is that not the warp?

**Kilkrazy**

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/09/ralph_lauren_pelvis_apology/

**Frazzled**

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:Frazz, if you're daughter every thinks that is good, give me fifteen seconds with a frying pan to straighten her out.....
Just saying.

We actually talked with her about it this morning andwill continue to do so.

And I know you mean well so I'll assume the frying pan comment meant you'd cook some awesome food that would take care of the problem.

**garret**

will i get shot if i say she is hawt?

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ralph lauren i mean.

**JohnHwangDD**

Frazzled wrote:
Golden Eyed Scout wrote:Frazz, if you're daughter every thinks that is good, give me fifteen seconds with a frying pan to straighten her out.....
Just saying.

And I know you mean well so I'll assume the frying pan comment meant you'd cook some awesome food that would take care of the problem.

That's what I was thinking: Farmer's breakfast of sausage patty, biscuit & gravy; sausage links & bacon, 3 egg omelet, short stack of pancakes, and potatoes to finish it off...

Yum!

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garret wrote:will i get shot if i say she is hawt?

Nah.

I'd do her, too.

**radiohazard**

I'm worried about this now and my daughter has only just turned two today. Most models are very tall - Jodie Kidd is 6' 4" - and my daughter is already over 3' tall which is ludicrously tall for her age. She isn't skinny, she's the correct weight for her height but I do worry. I don't want her getting into the business whatsoever.

Just MHO.

**garret**

Well you can teach her good values tell her the truth you can do everything you can but as soon she turns 18 or whatever the age is in other countries its all up to her.

**Vermillion**

c) Offer nourishing soup and sandwiches to your models

WIN!!

Wrexasaur wrote:This thread needs more curves... cushion for the pushin', and REALITY CHECK!!! Oh... burger time.

Again WIN!! Curves = attractive.

Roze wrote:LOL!!! dosen't matter what size you are, all women will be nasty to you if you are another women, I'm a size 12. Skinny girls will make comments about me being fat, Fatter girls will make comments about me being to skinny....It's just how it is. I don't give a flying what any of them think...I've never been turned down yet so there is something good about it

I stopped and checked where you were from before posting. Luckily UK size 12 I know what it is!! I can't get my head round why anyone would say that is fat and they really need a slap about the head a few dozen times to bring them back to the real world.

Personaly I was never fussy with looks on the opposite sex, just happens I ended up with a gorgeous wife I always tried to get to know the person a bit first. Anyway curves for the win, stick insects would punture my lung or something with their ribs.

**JohnHwangDD**

**GoFenris**

radiohazard wrote:I'm worried about this now and my daughter has only just turned two today. Most models are very tall - Jodie Kidd is 6' 4" - and my daughter is already over 3' tall which is ludicrously tall for her age. She isn't skinny, she's the correct weight for her height but I do worry. I don't want her getting into the business whatsoever.

Just MHO.

If I may? Don't worry so much about her correct HT and WT. This must be your first child. Man, those doctors, books, media and such can have you twisted and panicked about this stuff.

On a more general path regarding OP:

As far as body image and self esteem. It is a constant, ongoing thing. You have to tell, show and practice that fitness and diet are good. Health is the primary reason. Self Esteem is more than just physical (which sadly all of us former teenage boys didn't help at all) and also that all of us are different and we have to cultivate that we are who we are and have to figure out how to be happy with that. What is in our control (personally) and what is not.

You cannot tell a child once that something is bad or wrong. If you never communicate with your child regarding smoking and then you catch them at ten or so trying to smoke a cig with their friends then chew their butt saying, "Don't do that, it's wrong." The only thing they're going to think about is smoking and more than likely do it to spite you. It is the same with anything. It takes an ongoing, subtle effort using personal practice and many forms of parental propaganda over many years. It is a philosophy, not a sermon if you know what I mean.

I am a parent and I am not making this up. You can find this information in just about any child/teenage psychology book. They may differ in details but the highlights are pretty much standard.

**person person**

Wow, I dont get how people look at messed up stuff and think thats good just because it says Ralph Lauren or something on it.

**Wrexasaur**

People go crazy over diamonds, even though that market is based almost entirely on marketing, and not on actual value. This is not to say that diamonds will become unpopular all of a sudden, just that people tend to move with the crowd, and in that sense advertising skinny models as a standard is bound to have an effect on some people.

I think that this image does present a pretty good parody, and that seems to be a very popular eye-catching mechanism in advertising these days.

**Roze**

Did the lady in the picture agree for it to be published after all that editing? or do they not get a say in that?

**JohnHwangDD**

She's a model, so photoshop post-production is par for the course.

**Frazzled**

Karl Lagerfield objecting to a German magazine's new policy of only using realistic looking models.
The man should be beaten with the bras of size 13+ women for 42 days.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/oct/12/lagerfeld-size-zero-thin-models

Karl Lagerfeld says only 'fat mummies' object to thin modelsGerman designer claims objections to 'size-zero' models are driven by overweight women
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Kate Connolly in Berlin
guardian.co.uk, Monday 12 October 2009 15.20 BST
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A model wears a Karl Lagerfeld creation for Chanel at Paris Fashion Week. Photograph: Lucas Dolega/EPA

Karl Lagerfeld, the eccentric German fashion designer, has waded into the debate about size-zero models by stating that people prefer to look at "skinny models", and those who do not are "fat mummies".

Lagerfeld, 71, was reacting to the magazine Brigitte's announcement last week that it will in future use "ordinary, realistic" women rather than professional models in its photoshoots. He said the decision by Germany's most popular women's magazine was "absurd" and driven by overweight women who did not like to be reminded of their weight issues.

"These are fat mummies sitting with their bags of crisps in front of the television, saying that thin models are ugly," Lagerfeld said in an interview with Focus magazine. The creative director of the fashion house Chanel added that the world of fashion was all to do "with dreams and illusions, and no one wants to see round women".

Lagerfeld, who is known in the trade as a designer with a particular penchant for skinny models, adopted an almost emaciated look himself a few years ago, losing a lot of weight when he went on a strict low-carbohydrate diet. He has continued to share his diet tips over the years, stating: "I only like the things that I'm allowed to eat, so it's not like I have to avoid anything, which is how I don't put on weight."

He has also repeatedly defended the fashion world against claims that it encourages anorexia.

Three years ago in Berlin, the designer, known in the trade as King Karl and who sports a trademark upturned white collar and black leather gloves, created a stir by saying that it was psychological problems that caused models to be underweight, not pressure from the fashion industry.

"They aren't deliberately skinny because they want to be models, they've probably had family problems or suffered from other traumas," he said, adding that he had never seen any anorexic models himself, "only extremely slim ones".

The Hamburg fashion designer John Ribbe joined the debate, saying the row over underweight models had become hysterical. "It's just as much a cliché as saying that all models take drugs and get drunk at sex orgies," he said.

"Ninety per cent of them are quite normal, properly proportioned girls with less fat and more muscles who also eat pizzas and burgers."

Brigitte's editor, Andreas Lebert, said that after years of having to "fatten up" pictures of underweight models "with Photoshop", the magazine will produce its first edition with non-professional models on 2 January.

"We will show women that have their own identity – the 18-year-old A-level student, the company chairwoman, the musician, the footballer," he said. Lebert, who said the average weight of a model was "23% less" than that of a non-model, is calling for readers to sign up for photo sessions.

Brigitte's decision follows a recent appeal by British Vogue editor Alexandra Shulman to major fashion houses to end the "size-zero" culture, and a scandal over a Ralph Lauren advertising campaign in which a model was "thinned down" using computer graphics.

**JohnHwangDD**

The magazine is trying to cut costs, by reducing the quality of the models.

Lagerfield is correct to object when his product will not be presented as beautifully.

It's like giving an engagement ring in a brown paper bag at McDonalds, rather than a Tiffany box at Mortons. Same thing, but huge difference in presentation

**Frazzled**

JohnHwangDD wrote:The magazine is trying to cut costs, by reducing the quality of the models.

Lagerfield is correct to object when his product will not be presented as beautifully.

It's like giving an engagement ring in a brown paper bag at McDonalds, rather than a Tiffany box at Mortons. Same thing, but huge difference in presentation

Respectfully,
Bullsh

it.

**JohnHwangDD**

Then we disagree.

**dietrich**

I agree with grumpy ol' Frazz. BS.

I hope Lagerfield never sells another dress.

**Frazzled**

Yep we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one JohnnyH.

**JohnHwangDD**

It's OK.

Besides, fashion designers are pretty high-strung types.

Still, compare with LA's own American Apparel, and old Karl's a saintly curmudgeon.

**Frazzled**

Me no ken American Apparel. Don't really know any fashion designers. This is a good thing.

**JohnHwangDD**

Google it.

They do softcore print ads, for example.

Very edgy.