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I'd be tempted to put additional weight on the end of a baseball bat. Perhaps a meaty Washer of some kind, to make every blow really count. Of course, you want to keep it blunt. Start with spikes/nails and you risk it lodging in the Zombies skull, disarming you at no doubt the least opportune time!

A flange, round or bell Mace is ideal against Zombies really. Keep it single handed and fairly short, so that you can wield it even when close up. Double handers are all well and good until they get within your guard. And if nothing else, you can pulverise their skeletal structure with a blow or two, rendering limbs and spines useless, thus neutralising the Zombie, even if you don't finish the bugger off.

And in the modern day, I'm constantly surprised by how few people would opt to kit themselves out in full biker leather. Whilst it of course has it's flaws, a good layer of thick, cured cowskin buys you some survival time should you be overwhelmed, as I doubt the Zombies could chew through it. Of course, this works best when you work in a group, as help is (hopefully) never far away. Indeed, suitably attired you could be used as effective bait for small groups, allowing them to grapple you whilst your mates set about the reeks...

Indeed. I pointed that out to SWMBO the other day. A person in boots, full racing leathers and wraparound helmet is well nigh invulerable to attack. Armed with a fat baby to swing around, and you're set.

The human bite is not nearly as strong as Zombie movies. Its hardly anything in comparison to say your average dog.

Only problem with the Leathers is your body temprature. Without a renewable/constant source of water, you really have to watch how often you go out, lest you overheat. And let's face it. You just know that the second you put your helmet down to cool off, the sodding Zombies will attack, and always just a smidge too fast to get it back on and done up!

I've got a Bikers jacket with a zip above the bum bit, which is designed to zip up with matching Leather Trousers. Get that done, and it's even harder for the smelly shuffly ones to get at the tender flesh underneath.

Another upswing I suppose, would be that in Leathers, you're relatively fire resistant, so wandering around a flame thrower (home made or not) becomes marginally more reccomended... And everyone likes a Flamethrower, right?

On the subject of the Human Bite, don't forget that Mr Shuffles isn't exactly one for oral hygiene, which when you compound it with the general bugger of slowly rotting away, would suggest their gums give up the teeth fairly easily. Even healthy teeth and gums can be ruined by good thick toffee. Imagine if they were literally rotting inside your mouth!

Frazzled wrote:Indeed. I pointed that out to SWMBO the other day. A person in boots, full racing leathers and wraparound helmet is well nigh invulerable to attack. Armed with a fat baby to swing around, and you're set.

The human bite is not nearly as strong as Zombie movies. Its hardly anything in comparison to say your average dog.

Everyone is scared of the Zombie people... Wrex on the other hand... the one with a grenade... is waiting for the dogs and the birds... especially the birds...

I say 1890-1919 Germany/France
or 1700-1812 America

I've been thinking a bit about the "running out of ammo" problem (particularly enjoyed Frazzs take on it,I've known a few Texans,and I doubt they would ever run out of ammo).
Given,guns run out of ammo,but (at least in alot of cases)gun owners in America,particularly here in the south,tend to have a fairly large cache of various ammunition for their firearms (I probably have over a thousand rounds for my 12 guage,and at least 200 rounds for each handgun) so,surviving an initail unslaught,or at least having enough ammo,shouldn't be a problem.
Add to that,many people have taken to reloading their own ammo,so given enough supplies,one could hold out for years.
Also,on the street that I live on,there are 2 wal-marts loaded with ammunition (guns too) as well as a gun shop,all with in a 10 mile distance,and even though these areas would be "feeding zones" for zombies to begin with,after a time getting to them and the ammo inside shouldn't be a problem...um,and I have an aluminum baseball bat.

To look at the ammo situation realistically (yeah, I know, zombies ain't real but we are speculating here).

In the event of the forthcoming 2012 Zombie Apocalypse, Romero Style, the whole thing is simply a mathematical equation...

Here go my Mentat abilities:

"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."

What percentage of humans are left?

1%? That is approximately 495 million zombies versus 5 million people on the North American Continent. Yikes! Maybe too broad.

How about Las Vegas (since that is where I live)...

1% - 1,980,000 zombies versus 20,000 people in the Las Vegas valley. Hmm, even if that many bullets are in this valley, could I get my hands on all of them without exploring the wasteland ala Fallout 3 style? I don't even have a Ghoul Mask.

How about that Battle Axe that doesn't run out of bullets? Well, if I whacked 2 zombies a minute with eight hours rest a night and no days off, assuming I could even keep up that pace, it would still take me over three years to get them all! Yikes!

If all 20,000 of us were coordinated and hacked a zombie every 30 seconds it would take just about under and hour. Much better but each person would have to whack about 100 zombies in that hour! Geez, this just doesn't seem realistic considering even if all 20,000 were willing and able to swing a battle axe (let alone find one), could they as normal humans, maintain that kind of pace? Well, with coordination it is certainly a job that could get done. Us Lamoe types are dead (LaMoE = Last Man on Earth)

And this is just Las Vegas! 1% is pretty fair given a Land of the Dead scenario. But shooting or chopping from a few lonely stragglers is just not realistic.

The modern world, especially the U.S., where most people live in cities, are just one big buffet!

It seems clear to me, whether ammo, battle axe, bat (cricket or baseball) or even crow bars, humanity's ability to cooperate is probably the only thing that could actually stop a zombie horde.

In others words, we're all dead.

I don't think "kill all of the zombies" is going to be a realistic option; what you need to do is set up some sort of barrier that the zombies won't be able to cross. Then you're safe, and when you venture out you only kill what stands in your way.

Fair argument but at some point you'd want to take back the planet, I would assume. Otherwise you would simply be a prisoner behind whatever barrier you constructed.

Assuming there are enough of you to take anything back, that is.

Re-population! Let's get busy!

Depending on what type of zombie they are, they could rot away, or starve, or otherwise become a non-threat.

Necromantic ones might last forever, though. That might be tricky to go against.

Well see, if we start dealing with necromantic zombies...

Then we're not just dealing with zombies, but the summoners.

Are we dealing with constructs or just reanimated dead?

If the first one, we have to kill both.
If the second...
Well, then we get to organize kill-teams and go necromancer hunting!

Orkeosaurus wrote:Depending on what type of zombie they are, they could rot away, or starve, or otherwise become a non-threat.

Necromantic ones might last forever, though. That might be tricky to go against.

Ah, very true, very true!

Know thine enemy!

Mine assumed a Romero-esque zombie apocalypse.

I am really not going to cover every scenario. (actually, I probably will but I won't post it here as it will further cement what an incredible zombie geek I am)


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Has anyone read Monster Planet?

Well, just in case...



If you have no intention to check it out, which I am sure hardly anyone does, read away.

My bet would be on the Samurai age!! No one gaks with a crazy guy wielding a huge sword, or perhaps the Vikings? Notting beats a Norse with a massive sett of adamatium balls and a two handed battle axe. Perfect for chopping evil dead brain eaters, but then again zombies never have excisted and never will do so I am sure I will not end my days a zombie

GoFenris wrote:

It seems clear to me, whether ammo, battle axe, bat (cricket or baseball) or even crow bars, humanity's ability to cooperate is probably the only thing that could actually stop a zombie horde.

In others words, we're all dead.

Alternatively you just hold up until the zombies starve to death (virus zombies); or continue to decompose (dead zombies). Once they are too weak its party at the Rehab time.

Dead zombies were stopped by minor plywood (Romero) or couldn't get into a mall. Now add someone with a half decent rifle and you just sit it out.

1,000,000 years BC. Dinosaurs vs. cavemen vs. zombies.

Frazzled wrote:Dead zombies were stopped by minor plywood (Romero) or couldn't get into a mall. Now add someone with a half decent rifle and you just sit it out.

Uh, did you watch Romero's movies? They always got in. Always.

Not plywood, mall, cave nor reinforced downtown area stopped them.



Often because of batgak crazy people but they always got in.

GoFenris wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Dead zombies were stopped by minor plywood (Romero) or couldn't get into a mall. Now add someone with a half decent rifle and you just sit it out.

Uh, did you watch Romero's movies? They always got in. Always.

Not plywood, mall, cave nor reinforced downtown area stopped them.



Often because of batgak crazy people but they always got in.

1. They didn't actually get into the mall into the humans tried to go out, then it got hairy.
2. take out the crazy people factor and you're generally all right.
3. night of the living dead had about 20. Not counting Genghis Connie I have three shooters in the immediate family alone who could deal with that.
Just wait the buggers out or go to the nearby school and lock down the cafeteria and we're good.

Farm-House - Zombies overpowered and overwhelmed occupants despite them having guns.

Mall - Crazy bikers wanted all that stuff

Underground cave - Stressed out, drug addled ex-boyfriend opened the door for zombies

Reinforced Downtown area - Zombies organized and overwhelmed. Yikes! Organized?!?

Okay, I'm with you on the "school" thing. As mentioned in another post by me, High School would make a great hiding place because no one wants to get into a High School. Not even zombies.

GoFenris wrote:

Okay, I'm with you on the "school" thing. As mentioned in another post by me, High School would make a great hiding place because no one wants to get into a High School. Not even zombies.

Actually the elementary is just over yonder. The schools are reinforced and double as storm shelters (Texas thing), so its sehr gut! on the bunker like front. Windows are heavy with wire reinforced. Doors are metal. upstairs has two routes. Cafeteria has its own heavy metal doors. Plus it has fishsticks!
The local high school is more open then my old one (which was a complete bunker structure with inner courtyards-very storm shelter design plus it was good for the constant Indian/Santa Anna attacks), but is also highly serviceable. but yea High School evidently is still well, high school food (barf!).

Its good to be european, we would just use some of our medieval castles or fortresses

Wait, with necromatic zombies do their bites still infect you? Always wanted to know.

I dunno.

But I think necromantic zombies just rip your throats/arteries out, let you bleed to death and then the summoner comes along and poof--new zombies!

Kanluwen wrote:...

Leave it to Frazzled to come up with Zombie Cricket.

Sigged.

I second the Roman era. Or any Medievil time with lots of fighting.

Thank you. I do what I can.

George Spiggott wrote:1,000,000 years BC. Dinosaurs vs. cavemen vs. zombies.

Roger Corman would have had a field day with this idea


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GoFenris wrote:Fair argument but at some point you'd want to take back the planet, I would assume. Otherwise you would simply be a prisoner behind whatever barrier you constructed.

Assuming there are enough of you to take anything back, that is.

Re-population! Let's get busy!

I to belive global reclaimation would eventialy be on the survivors agenda,once again assuming that enough people survive to begin with.
I doubt that a "Fidlers Green" type strong hold would be probable (perhaps one or two),I think there would be more "Road warrior/Rein of Fire" type incampments (at least to begin with),were survivors would deploy "hunting/resupply" parties,perhaps sweeping and clearing small areas for expansion.
As you had stated in another post,cooperation and coordination would be esential to humanities survival.

Any era that allows you to nuke them from orbit...

Relapse wrote:Any era that allows you to nuke them from orbit...

Well,that may be effective,but...where's the fun in it

FITZZ wrote: I've been thinking a bit about the "running out of ammo" problem (particularly enjoyed Frazzs take on it,I've known a few Texans,and I doubt they would ever run out of ammo).
Given,guns run out of ammo,but (at least in alot of cases)gun owners in America,particularly here in the south,tend to have a fairly large cache of various ammunition for their firearms (I probably have over a thousand rounds for my 12 guage,and at least 200 rounds for each handgun) so,surviving an initail unslaught,or at least having enough ammo,shouldn't be a problem.
Add to that,many people have taken to reloading their own ammo,so given enough supplies,one could hold out for years.
Also,on the street that I live on,there are 2 wal-marts loaded with ammunition (guns too) as well as a gun shop,all with in a 10 mile distance,and even though these areas would be "feeding zones" for zombies to begin with,after a time getting to them and the ammo inside shouldn't be a problem...um,and I have an aluminum baseball bat.

Nail on the head. I vote 2009, Oklahoma.

People here are more than willing to shoot you even if you aren't the living dead, so really there would be no hesitation factor. Plus, as was mentioned before, everyone's seen the 'educational videos' so even the hesitant ones will be more than happy to cave in Aunt Emma's skull if the opportunity presented itself.

I agree that Walmart would definitely be the bastion of defense not only because of the oodles of shotguns and ammunition stores (plus any number of handy blunt trauma weaponry, did someone say 'Sporting Goods'?), but rather because most Walmart patrons would give a rotting, shambling corpse a run for its money on the revolting scale.

Just kidding! I love Oklahoma and Walmart!

Kinda...

DoW

P.S. Shop smart, shop S-Mart!

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I say the 40k era or any era where there is more people father away from each other
I also thrid the roman era