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Cavemen. those were some bad mo fo's

garret wrote:Cavemen. those were some bad mo fo's

Yeah, I'm sure rocks and wooden clubs are going to kill dozens of zombies as opposed to landmines and chainguns.

I'd take the Ice Age.

Though Zombie Wooly Mammoths would be a bit scary I imagine.

Cheese Elemental wrote:

garret wrote:Cavemen. those were some bad mo fo's

Yeah, I'm sure rocks and wooden clubs are going to kill dozens of zombies as opposed to landmines and chainguns.

Beat me to it Cheese, ,but agreed,despite the possible combat prowess of our far forfathers,I don't think chucking a rock at a horde of the hungry undead will acomplish much,except perhaps to get them to notice you...and how delicious you look.
As for the OPs question,I'm going to have to go with present day,personaly I'd much rather unleash a few 7.62x39 rounds than shoot arrows at a group of aproaching zombies,and,if I eventualy run out of ammo,I do own an aluminum baseball bat.

Or how about the Hyborian Age?

Conan would own zombies like no-one's business.

How about the Precambrian Era?

Orkeosaurus wrote:How about the Precambrian Era?

Would zombies even have been possible then?

Blue-green algae is back from the dead!

I say the Dark Ages. Vikings, Picts, Celts, Goths and Gauls were all too manly to worry about little zombies. They could crush the zombie with their BALLS OF STEEL!

Can they fight against the deadly poison known as "oxygen"?

Cheese Elemental wrote:Shambling zombies are the only zombies. Fast zombies completely ruin the great tradition, and turn zombie-horror into zombie-action.

If you want to see zombies done well, watch the Resident Evil movies. They're shamblers, but they can get pretty motivated when they get close to you.

Zombieland zombies as well. They are kind of shambly but can jog when needed. By jog I mean they can just keep up to someone in front jogging and blasting them to bits. Perfect.


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Vladsimpaler wrote:I'd take the Ice Age.

Though Zombie Wooly Mammoths would be a bit scary I imagine.

Ice Age works also. The sheer minimal population numbers means zombiism is not giong to spread much beyond the initial infection. If its undead type, the undead shamblers are not exactly at the top of the food chain. Sabre toothed Lion gives a thumbs up! to Ice Age zombie time.


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Jimi Nemesis wrote:I say the Dark Ages. Vikings, Picts, Celts, Goths and Gauls were all too manly to worry about little zombies. They could crush the zombie with their BALLS OF STEEL!

Thats just SO wrong...

Yet SO right

A cuople of things.
1) cavemen live in isolated tribes whice rarely meet so they wouold unlikely even meet alot of zombies do to the very small populace.
2)what weapon do alot of people go for when fighting zombies? a bat.

garret wrote:A cuople of things.
1) cavemen live in isolated tribes whice rarely meet so they wouold unlikely even meet alot of zombies do to the very small populace.
2)what weapon do alot of people go for when fighting zombies? a bat.

I find your second point quite amusing, no one I know has ever fought zombies. But it's a valid point none the less.

Frazzled wrote:Zombies in Somalia. Zombies don't have a chance. You're not macho with an AK, you have to have a recoilles rifle on a 4 wheeler to be macho there. EVERYONE has a machine gun.

That's funny you say that. You're not alone in that opinion. In a book series published a few years back (Monster Island, Monster Nation and Monster Planet) the author had Somalia rapidly becoming somewhat secure against a world wide zombie outbreak and subsequent decimation.


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Cheese Elemental wrote:Shambling zombies are the only zombies. Fast zombies completely ruin the great tradition, and turn zombie-horror into zombie-action.

If you want to see zombies done well, watch the Resident Evil movies. They're shamblers, but they can get pretty motivated when they get close to you.

Resident Evil? They're just derivatives of Romero's films. Romero's zombies always frenzied when close and those bastards would lay in wait. Remember the screwdriver-zombie (which incidently is the same guy the directed the SciFi Channel version of Dune)?

Back to OP. Yeah, more primitive cultures for sure. Infection was already wide spread and a martial lifestyle was more prominent (depending on era and culture of course). The less complicated the cultural/civic plumbing the easier to unclog the zombie infested pipes, if you get my meaning.

hah ha!

I'd proffer Afghinstan for similar reasons: heavily armed populace and brutally rugged terrain.

Arizona as well.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote:You do know that the very idea of a 'zombie apocalypse' is nonsense, don't you?

Hey! This guy doesn't believe in zombies! Get him!

Agreed, question is do we slowly lurch after him or rush him?


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Jimi Nemesis wrote:I say the Dark Ages. Vikings, Picts, Celts, Goths and Gauls were all too manly to worry about little zombies. They could crush the zombie with their BALLS OF STEEL!

With all those tribes working together at once zombies may indeed be crushed by balls of steel dropped from their time machines.

Trouble is with the modern era, those with the guns tend to be concentrated in certain areas, like the Military. Modern emergency procedures seem to involve gathering the populace into evacuation centres. As happens in the Romero films and remakes (we'll assume Romero Zombies for this purpose) suggest that all you'd need are a handful of bite victims admitted early on (i.e. early enough for bite=Zombie! to not be common knowledge) and thats an awful lot of reeks in one place all of a sudden.

Plus Bullets, Landmines, Tanks etc need planning and support. Guns are great, until you either don't have one, or have run out of ammo. At that point, aside from Zombies, the have-nots are forced to deal with the haves, who will no doubt be intent on making them have even less.

As for Crusades, the Cavalry and general armed forces of the time would be ideal, but the Crusades themselves are the problem I reckon. Most of your warriors are off in some distant land smashing the heathens, or defending your Holy Land, leaving Faaaaarmers etc to deal with the localised problems. Sure, they could high tail it back home eventually, but thats a hell of a lot of land to cover whilst fending off Zombies...

So I agree that Dark Age stuff (long arsed period of time. So named, IIRC, due to a lack of reliable historical documents. I think it ended with Englands Magna Carta?) is the best. Most people had some kind of blunt or bladed implement, be it a weapon of war or tool of trade, and the Zombies would seriously stuggle there.

Also, a postulation about the flaming arrows. Would corpse gases take away the need to attach dynamite? Flaming arrow goes in, methane ignites, Zombie go BOOM!???

An axe doesnt run out of ammo.

Shadowbrand wrote:An axe doesnt run out of ammo.

Neither does a Texan.

Speaking of Zombies. Watch out for the cute witchlike ones. They have wicked smaht spell powers. Not only will they eat your brains, they will make you clean their room.

But how many people these days know how to handle one safely, let alone in a desperate combat situation?

Even a wooden pitchfork is useful, as you could stick it in the Zombies gut, holding it at bay, until those better equipped could get to it.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:But how many people these days know how to handle one safely, let alone in a desperate combat situation?

Even a wooden pitchfork is useful, as you could stick it in the Zombies gut, holding it at bay, until those better equipped could get to it.

Handle what safely?

I think some sort of war scythe would be the best weapon against a zombie. You'd want a gun, but I'd almost be more inclined to save it for other humans who threaten me, at least if ammo is scarce.

A wrecking bar might be useful, just because it doubles as a tool you can use to pry open doors and such.

Frazzled wrote:

Shadowbrand wrote:An axe doesnt run out of ammo.

Neither does a Texan....

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Trouble is with the modern era, those with the guns tend to be concentrated in certain areas, like the Military. Modern emergency procedures seem to involve gathering the populace into evacuation centres. As happens in the Romero films and remakes (we'll assume Romero Zombies for this purpose) suggest that all you'd need are a handful of bite victims admitted early on (i.e. early enough for bite=Zombie! to not be common knowledge) and thats an awful lot of reeks in one place all of a sudden.

Plus Bullets, Landmines, Tanks etc need planning and support. Guns are great, until you either don't have one, or have run out of ammo. At that point, aside from Zombies, the have-nots are forced to deal with the haves, who will no doubt be intent on making them have even less...

If you haven't read it, Oral History of World War Z offers a great "what if..." scenario regarding how zombies could overtake the modern world due to a number of factors. Anyone on this thread that is discussing this obviously is into the whole "speculation" side of it, give it a read, I give it my "Two-Chains and a Magic Rope" guarantee!

^^ shaolin spade. Recommended by the Zombie Survival Guide.

But yes, Crowbar would be my vote. Useful for things other than zombie smashing, yet perfectly formed to cave in skulls and pulp the brain (essential, really).

No way do zombies beat an organised modern military. World War Z is a good read, but that part of it requires severe suspension of disbelief (beyond the whole zombie premise)
Plus, modern day people know what zombies are. We've seen the educational movies.

Late 1400's early 1500's for me, wearing a full suit of fully enclosed armour (don't think zeds would like tinned food!) with a nice warhammer and a back up sword... (plus my serf army in front of me! )
Mick

Damned fine point about the armour! THough I reckon a suit of half decent quality Ringmail ought to bugger up a Zombies gnashers to the point of it being useless.

And Fraz...I was meaning the Axe! You posted as I posted.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Damned fine point about the armour! THough I reckon a suit of half decent quality Ringmail ought to bugger up a Zombies gnashers to the point of it being useless.

And Fraz...I was meaning the Axe! You posted as I posted.

Gotcha. A metal ptichfork would be good in that instance. However I'm down with an old school tin can lid/shield and a baseball bat. Everyone knows how to use a baseball in the danger zone. Its like its genetic, the ability to bash things with a bat.

Da Boss wrote:No way do zombies beat an organised modern military. World War Z is a good read, but that part of it requires severe suspension of disbelief (beyond the whole zombie premise)
Plus, modern day people know what zombies are. We've seen the educational movies.

The question in ...World War Z was not whether a modern military 'could' defeat an encroaching zombie horde. But whether they 'understood' the type of enemy they were fighting.

Vietnam is actually a really great analogy to this Sun Tzu tenet. We (The U.S.) won all of the major battles and killed many more of them than they, us but we failed to understand our enemy and hence, lost the war.

In ...World War Z, the U.S. Military did not understand their enemy.