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Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand

@aka_mythos
Perhaps, since such little fluff exists about this tank one can make reasonable deductions as to what ever happened to it. Much like the Fellblade, due to its rarity and the costly toll taken by the SM Legions (Loyalist and Traitor) during and after the HH, it is probably one of those vehicles that couldn't be massed produced like the Rhino and Landraider for second and onward founding chapters to use. As such, even for a chapter like the Ultramarines that seemed to be in possession of such tanks at one time (As the above pic shows), after their surplus was destroyed or worn down there was no way to replace them, thus a quick and easy solution was concocted that would allow the hole left by such a tank to be filled: and we get the Landraider Terminus Ultra. As for the other variants shown in the old art work, who knows. The typical battle tank variant seems to be fairly replaced by Preds, and the one with the giant Inferno Gun or whatever, may be the Redeemer. As I said before, with such little fluff to work with, your guess is as good as mine.

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Sounds perfectly plausible to me.

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Looks good to me!

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Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand

Quick update. The Hercules Super Heavy Tank is done, in that it is built and primed. One day it and my Fellblade will be painted...one day...



Next to my Fellblade:



My next project, from pg. 130 of the 5th edition 40k rule book...




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Mostly, on my phone.

Ooh, rivetty. That thing (I assume the big 'un is the one you're aiming for) in the picture's got some height on it. You thinking plasticard/foamcore or using another model as the hull?

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Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand

Yup, the big one. In some of my Hercules wip pics you can see the start of its track assemblies. With my projects I am slowly building up the scratch-build ratio. This monster will be entirely scratch built. The track assembly will be cut out from insulation foam and then layered with plasticard, the hull will be made from foamcore, and layered with plasticard as well. This thing will have a lot of rivets, but it should be fun. Other than the above picture I don't know of any other fluff. I'm assuming since the pic is of Black Templars that it is a Space Marine vehicle, perhaps a SM Leviathan. I plan to arm it with a Doomsday Cannon, 4 twin linked Lascannons, and 2 twin linked heavy bolters. Maybe throw in a hunter killer missile or two on the top. The little fellow in the pic next to the big guy is clearly a Land raider mkII and a half (?), I have the FW kit (Christmas present to myself), I'll probably put up pics of that kit's progress as well. I want something bigger, but I really don't want to build a Leviathan a la the epic standard template that looks like a bastion sitting on a baneblade, so when I saw this pic I knew I had to try. Hopefully I can get it done before I return to my schooling overseas. I am also considering using balsa wood, we'll see...


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Here we go...

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timd wrote:


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Thats gonna be alota tank.
   
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Mostly, on my phone.

Mmm, chunky. It looks more proto-Malcador-ish to me than Leviathan, though. That's got the height without (as you say) the towering insanity.

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Looks great, all of your projects. Can't wait to see 'em painted, but absolute fantastic building.

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Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand

Done a little work on the track assemblies, and have begun construction on the hull. There is still much to do and I have run out of plasticard, just waiting for it to get here so I can finish up the track assemblies and strengthen the hull. Since this tank has no real fluff behind it I've decided to call it a Medusa Pattern Lindworm Mega Heavy Death Tank. Iam dreading the riveting process, the Hercules required about 400 pins, what will this monster need?




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timd wrote:


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Thats so cool...
   
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Because we’re here,lad...

@ Heliodore
I've just been through the whole thread and how you've brought some of the most obscure PH vehicles to life in 40k is a real acheivement.My hat is off to you sir

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Its so many times more original than the people who do 40k scale models of levithans and other biggies that already exist as a model.
   
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Just make sure the cannon isn't unbelievably big.

 
   
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If you look at the picture the cannon is pretty big. Heliodore definitely has the scale of it right. You can see his cannon parts off to the side of the one picture.
   
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Thanks guys, I like to think that original and obscure are two words that best describe my fascination with the 40k world.
@Qualude: I've attempted to keep the cannon's proportions equivalent to how it is depicted in the painting. The tubes I plan to use have a 2" diameter, although I am still figuring how to go about it. In order to keep the hull from cracking under the weight of the cannon I'm probably going to have to completely stuff the hull with foam-core. It should be fun.

Good news, got my plasticard today, I can see this guy done and primed within 2 weeks.



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Oh, I'm also in the middle of another, smaller, project. Anyone recall those epic scale Vindicators that looked like a brick with a clown cannon in front, I believe they are referred to as a Vindicator mk II. I'm making one in 40k scale. My first attempt at a scratch build was to make one of these, but I made it way too big. With a lot of my left overs I've scraped together a much smaller version, in that it is a size between a mk I Rhino and a mk II Rhino. I'll get pics of that once my camera recharges.

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Midland, TX or Wellington, New Zealand

Just a basic idea of where this is going. Added extra layers to make the hull wider and sturdier. Much left to do...

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Mostly, on my phone.

Nice one matey. How're you going to do the cannon on this one?

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Part plumber pipes and part metal parts, it's hard to describe seeing as I don't know the actual names of the stuff I'm using. 2 inch diameter for the tube, taking up about 1/3 of the hull space you see in the above pic. I'll take a new pic of it soon. In actuality, my cannon will end up being smaller than the one in the painting. The cannon on the front is most likely the same weapon on a leviathan, no point in making this look like a clown cannon.

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Mostly, on my phone.

(snip)
no point in making this look like a clown cannon.


Pie cannon!

Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
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Pie?

When I play that's my pie plate.
   
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While I don't have any pie to share with everyone, I have a quick pic to show off the Doomsday Cannon and some more work I've done on the sides. Once I have the exhaust ports and my trademark cog pattern here and there I'll have a real update.


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timd wrote:


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Mostly, on my phone.

That's a big freakin' pie cannon... Loving the piston/nut detailing, too.

Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
Solar_Lion: "Man this sums up your blog nicely."

Anpu-adom: "being Geek is about Love. Some love broadly. Some love deeply. And then there are people like Graven.

 
   
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I think you need to make it so the cannon look like it can traverse up. Otherwise it looks like it can only shoot horizontally, which would be a big waste for such a large piece of ordnance. I think if you look at the Shadowsword and variants, you can see how you need to go about it. Build a rectangular framed section around the sides of the cannon and up onto the top about an inch. Then make the portion the cannons mounted to rounded along the top edge, between the framing.

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Hmmm, I have an idea for giving the Doomsday Cannon the look of being able to pivot, I'll see if I can get the pieces together.

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Ok, I did some more work on the body, added the cog pattern here and there, Iron Hand symbols on the side and front, the aquila, added parts to the cannon to give the perception that it can pivot, added the top and some hatches, headlights, made the exhaust. It goes on the back, but it is not completed, still need to add stacks. What I also have left to do: extend the top track assembly cover, 2 inches or so forward and back, add secondary headlights, add view ports, add 5 top hatches (1 w/ stormbolter, 1/ with havoc launcher counts as 6 hunter killer missiles, 1 with dish, and 2 closed), other odds and ins, a thousand or so rivets, and the side sponsons with guns.






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timd wrote:


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Mostly, on my phone.

I think, sir, this had the potential to be your best work to date. Now excuse me while I pick my jaw up off the floor...

Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
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Dn't forget to add lots of details. Problem with many large scratchbuilt projects is that they lack the details, which means they dont look as huge and impressive as they truly are!

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Thanks!
@malika2, I agree about how the lack of detail on big models can create a problem. This guy will have a lot of rivets, every panel practically, as well large armor bolts, hopefully that will be enough.

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