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As my old Squad leader always said "strap it down strap it down strap it down!" Great work btw.

I think the extra equipment is something that you just don't see enough of.

I have to say this is amazing work so far. The only thing I am not sure of is the colours on the bases, but I imagine that the painted models will tie in and make it all look pretty

Impressive stowage. I like the idea myself. Especially as I can imagine a daemon powered tank refusing to work at the most unopportune chaotic moment!

Empchild wrote:As my old Squad leader always said "strap it down strap it down strap it down!" Great work btw.

Marine or Army?

Off Topic: He's Army.

On Topic: Redbeard, great as usual. No construcive criticism b/c I don't have any criticism

How exactly did you magnetize the Defiler's various weapon options?

With a drill

Okay, since you asked:

On the right side (from the model's perspective), you have the big ring connector. The ring that comes with the defiler is the same size as the heavy bolter mounting ring on a land raider. The biggest difference is how much space there is between the mounting posts.

I happen to have an extra land-raider disc, probably from an ork conversion years ago, so I used that instead of the defiler one, because I had more support posts that fit the Land Raider disc than the defiler disc.

You drill a 1/8th inch hole midway between the connecting hole. You will also note that I trimmed off some of the rear detail on the disc - that's so that the lowered heavy bolter conversion will sit flat. I also used my drill to slightly widen the mounting holes, so that the pegs on the supports for other weapons can slide in and out easily, but will still provide stabilizing support for the weapon.



This disc is then glued to the defiler body.

To do the autocannon, you very carefully drill a hole between the mounting pegs, and put a magnet in there. The gun mounting pegs on the Land Raider mounting piece are larger than the holes on the autocannon too, so you have to carefully enlarge the holes on the autocannon. I also trimmed down the ammo feed belts, so that just a little bit was left. When the autocannon sits in position, you can't see anymore of the ammo feed belt than this anyway, and it just gets in the way.



The lascannons are done with extra land-raider lascannons (with proper chaosy gun tips). They're simply attached to the heavy bolter mounting plate, and again, a hole is carefully drilled between the connecting posts to put a magnet in there.



The Heavy Bolter is lowered, like I did for the Land Raider itself. A little square magnet fits nicely between the bolters.




On the other side, rather than using the small mounting disc, I used the plate that's meant for use with a havok launcher. Simply drill the middle out, and drop a magnet in:



The Havok launcher is equally as easy to do - just stick a magnet in the base:



The Heavy Flamers involved a couple of plasticard pieces to fill in the gap between the flamers, where the small connecting post would normally go:



Finally, for the CCW, I used the small connecting post, removing the connecting posts entirely, and drilling a couple of holes that fit with the raised bumps on the havok launcher mounting disc. (Again, this provides support, so that you don't get a saggy CCW).




There is a bit of an art to getting your magnets in just the right place. Different people have different techniques for this, do what works for you. I've used over 250 magnets on this army, so I have a pretty good feel for that sort of thing - it comes with time.

Loving your work Redbeard!

The magnetising for the defiler has just answered about 10 Questions I was gonna post in the P&M Forum!

Keep on truckin'

Damn Redbeard Nice work. Been waiting for someone to start an CSM army of the cleaved.

Good that you decided on putting the helmets on because i pretty sure in the codex it said that no one has seen their faces and they always clad in armor. I love the drippy-drip thing they have with the armor.

Anyways back on topic: Your work so far is kicking major . Good luck and keeping it up.

Wow, impressive! I wish I had seen this when I started, I wouldnt have so many redundant models. Will keep an eye on this one!

i like it, want to see some painted mareehns

Sometimes, things don't go as planned, but you learn a bit.

I primed everything on Saturday, and airbrushed all the tanks, and three test marines with Dark Flesh. This is going to be the undercolour for the army.





I put a coat of matte finish on them too, to protect this colour for the next step.

Then I dunked the test marines in water, and sprinked salt on them. I'm not sure this is the best way to do it. One of the guys, I dipped into a bowl of salt instead of sprinkling, but that got really big clumps of salt on him.



I then airbrushed them with dheneb stone, which should be the main colour for this army:



It is at this stage that I realized there was a problem... I hadn't given them enough time to dry, and there was still water in the recesses. This meant that quite a bit of the airbrushing didn't stick :(

After it dried, I brushed them with a toothbrush (an old one, not one I still use for my teeth) to get the salt off and see how it looked.




The big patchy areas are where the water ruined the aribrushing as it came out of the cracks when the air hit it. You can kind of make out some smaller rust chips.

All-in-all, I'm not too happy with the result. I'm going to go and see if I can find more tutorials on this and see what I did wrong.

After looking through this entire blog, you make me wish that I had magnetized my entire army. I really can't wait to see how all this looks once it's completed

WOOT the painting begins

Really like what you're doing with this army. Dont know if your interested or not but Forge world do a really good painting masterclass book, with tips you might find usefull in getting the armour effect you're after. Using hairspray instead of salt for example. Anyway good luck with this.

I've got that book, but the salt is a different look than the hairspray, which is why i'm not going that route.

Always wanted to see The Cleaved in a full-fledged army. I love the idea that there armor leaks pustulent slime.

Look forward to more updates .

I like the salt effect on the first two, I just think you need to make sure to get finer grains like on the legs where the effect is best (IMO). Another try with correct airbrushing couldn't hurt.

One night when I could not sleep I wrote down some notes on Blight Shells.... (Trust me to leave it in the bedroom)......

Blight Shells:

Can be used by a Vindicator or a Defiler, any who has been wounded but has not been removed from play must pass a toughness test or they have been infected by the toxins and other nasty things that the followers of Nurgle have placed inside the shells.

Use the stats of the weapon that is being used to deliver the shells.

In the shooting players next turn the minis that failed the toughness test turn on thier bretheren and join the renagades.

Nice! THat would be great for datasheet.

Miss Dee wrote:One night when I could not sleep I wrote down some notes on Blight Shells.... (Trust me to leave it in the bedroom)......

Blight Shells:

Can be used by a Vindicator or a Defiler, any who has been wounded but has not been removed from play must pass a toughness test or they have been infected by the toxins and other nasty things that the followers of Nurgle have placed inside the shells.

Use the stats of the weapon that is being used to deliver the shells.

In the shooting players next turn the minis that failed the toughness test turn on thier bretheren and join the renagades.

Im thinking that Havoc Launchers should be able to have Blight Rockets

That would make sense. Would it have it's own profile?

I think so but Im hijacking this thead aint i?

Just a bit...

I have to put aside working on this for a few weeks, as I need to get some models done for Adepticon, but I'll resume updates as there is more to update.

I thought that the Blight Shells might be a good addition to your force.

Great job so far, I love the magnetizing work. Would you consider doing an article for each of the various vehicles you've magnetized? Specifically the Predator? I'm having a hell of a time getting the side sponson weapons to magnetize to the doors...

Hey, I didn't forget about these guys...

After a short detour, painting ork models for Adepticon and then painting more ork models because they'd been sitting there yelling at me to paint them, I'm back to this project.

Last weekend, I put down the undercoat. I used Dark Flesh, because it's a nice dark colour, and should look good as rust under where the paint is chipped off.



After that, I used my airbrush with water in it to spray a layer of water over all the models, and then sprinkled salt onto them from about 12 inches above.

Men watered:


Men salted:


I then left them alone, to allow the water to completely evaporate. That lets the salt stick in place, and means that I won't get the same nasty behaviour that the test models had from rushing too much.


Today, I went through 5 bottles of Dheneb stone, laying down the basecoat that will be the primary colour for the army.





I'm going to let this sit for a bit, and then I'll take a toothbrush to them and see what they look like with the salt brushed off. Stay tuned...

I'm glad this thread wasn't abanoned. I really like it. Can't wait for more.

I wish you best of luck with the results, because if it failed, it did on your whole army.

Yup, I hope this turns out as youd like as well. Looking good so far though!