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Outraeg!!1

Who is she running aginst. cause if its gor or kerry or clinton then yes.

She isn't running yet, just checking the fit of her track shoes.

I'd vote for her, just to see what would happen to the USA.

Who is she running aginst. cause if its gor or kerry or clinton then yes.

THERE's your Palin voter right there.




@Garret - Sorry mate, couldn't resist - only kidding!

It would just be to vote against those 3. i cant stand them. but any other dem i might be fine with.

garret wrote:Who is she running aginst. cause if its gor or kerry or clinton then yes.

Also...

Garret like Palin-lady huh? Good for you son.

Whether the rest of you dislike her democratic opponents or not, the fact remains she's an imbecile. She'll blow up the world.

Observe this carefully constructed scenario!!!!
http://www.palinaspresident.us/

I'd vote for a ticket with her as Vice President if the person running for President was worth it.

Vice Presidents are supposed to be embarrassments, isn't that right Mr. Biden?

Ron Paul 2012.

Monster Rain wrote:I'd vote for a ticket with her as Vice President if the person running for President was worth it.

Vice Presidents are supposed to be embarrassments, isn't that right Mr. Biden?

Ron Paul 2012.

And if the nominee is another old person, with the risk they might die and put that lobotomised harpy in charge...?

"Imma maverik, oooh, lookit tha red button, push the red button!"

Stupid is as stupid blows up the world...

Vladigar wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:People call her inexperienced because she is. She quit her job job, and hasn't been in government particularly long.

4 years on a city council
6 years as a city mayor
2 1/2 years as a state governor

Over 10 years of government experience.

And she threw it all away to become a community organizer. The irony is delicious.

There isn't a politician worth voting for in this whole damn country. We need an apocalypse (zombie or other) to wipe the slate clean and put an end to this red state/blue state crap. We're either one country, for good or bad, or we're not. Party politics is destroying any ideals this country ever had, along with corporate lobbyists and the general laziness of the American citizen. Frankly, the only one I would ever vote for is this man:



And he's ****ing Australian!

Dumbest. ****. EVER.

Hell, no I wouldn't vote for her, under ANY circumstances.

She's not someone I'd vote for for President, but I think all of this vitriol is a bit much.

I mean, is Palin Hate some new kind of intertubes fad or is this just where politics and misogyny intersect?

Obama only got elected on white guilt. Wont happen again. I hope some else runs besides her if not she gets my vote. Only argument I here from the masses is she is a dumb bitch. Guess thats the best idiots can come up with these days.

mattyrm wrote:My girlfriend is a liberal Californian. Much more liberal than me i must say, i think i would be a republican if i was American.. well.. if it wasnt for the whole.. crazy God thing. You know.. half of them being evolution deniers or Mormons or whatever.

Anyway, she HATES the red states, she rants about how they should just make their own county because you have nothing in common, and she whines about being constantly embarrassed by the "ignorance" of the bible belt.

I know weve slated Palin to death, but be honest. Republican voters, if Palin is the actual winner of the Primary and is the forerunner in the presidential race, not just the VP. Would you still vote for them? Or go with a independant?

My missus claims that you guys would vote for her regardless. I would like to prove her wrong!

Oh and this video started our conversation. The woman is an absolute fething disgrace.

Your g/f is a scholar and a gentlewoman, but she's dead wrong. I'm from HI, nuff said on the way HI leans.

I'd rather vote an Independant than Palin, even though I think she's pretty hot. Like the stereotypical blonde joke, she may be hot as hell but there's no way in hell I'm letting her drive my car.

ounumen wrote:Obama only got elected on white guilt. Wont happen again. I hope some else runs besides her if not she gets my vote. Only argument I here from the masses is she is a dumb bitch. Guess thats the best idiots can come up with these days.

Well if it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck and quits it's job like a duck that isn't fit for a leadership roll..

ShumaGorath wrote:

ounumen wrote:Obama only got elected on white guilt. Wont happen again. I hope some else runs besides her if not she gets my vote. Only argument I here from the masses is she is a dumb bitch. Guess thats the best idiots can come up with these days.

Well if it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck and quits it's job like a duck that isn't fit for a leadership roll..

ShumaGorath speaks the truth.

ShumaGorath wrote:
Well if it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck and quits it's job like a duck that isn't fit for a leadership roll..

mattyrm wrote:Anyway, she HATES the red states, she rants about how they should just make their own county because you have nothing in common, and she whines about being constantly embarrassed by the "ignorance" of the bible belt.

This has been an unfortunate development, this 'culture war' thing.

Okay, Palin is grossly unqualified and it's a worry that anyone, anywhere would consider voting her into office, but it's hardly a reason to hate a whole state. How is dialogue possible when people are willing to write off whole states because their politics are different? And more importantly, its in this kind of antagonistic politics that idiots like Palin flourish.


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ounumen wrote:Obama only got elected on white guilt.

No, that's a non-sensical charge. Obama was voted in because he had a record of opposing the Iraq war, because the incumbant was incredibly unpopular, because poor economic conditions favour the party opposed to the incumbent, because McCain ran a mediocre campaign that attempted to appeal to both classic conservatives and movement conservatives and ended up failing to enthuse either, and because Obama ran a really effective campaign, mobilising an incredible number of volunteers.

Your statement was completely absurd and you should feel bad for having made it.

Wont happen again. I hope some else runs besides her if not she gets my vote. Only argument I here from the masses is she is a dumb bitch. Guess thats the best idiots can come up with these days.

Palin has demonstrated little to no understanding of politics at a Federal level. Her campaigning to date has consisted of folksy nothings, a desire to drill for oil and a vaguely belligerent foreign policy. Her experience to date consists of governing one of the smallest states in the nation, and bailing on that after two and a half years.

One of the smallest states... or THE BIGGEST?

Your statement was completely absurd and you should feel bad for having made it.

I spit my coffee.

honestly.. Its nothing to do with sexism or being fashionable to dislike palin, some of the things she has said just... Boggle my mind. Wait till i get home from work as im on my phone, ill link you some of the more wacky ones. :-)

Sure. It's not like she'd be worse than having One Big Ass Mistake, America.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Sure. It's not like she'd be worse than having One Big Ass Mistake, America.

When people say things like this it makes me wonder if they actually know anything about either politician they are commenting on. Probably not.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Sure. It's not like she'd be worse than having One Big Ass Mistake, America.

Ooh, someone can spit racially rooted slogans...

Honestly, I don't see how anyone can say that the man is screwing anything up worse than the bush/cheney administration did during the 8 years they were in power. The collapse of the financial sector? All influenced by republicans. This is what happens when you deregulate the banking structure and start letting banks show fake money as real profit (subprime mortgage sales), dig us into not one, but two, different unstable regions of the globe with no final, discernable goal, and no clear exit strategy, push congress to grant the executive seat powers that are far beyond it's constitutiona scope, shovel TRILLIONS of dollars into corporations that are "too big to fail" (and they call themselves capitalist... hah.), support human rights violations, and appoint activist judges to the supreme court.

And that's just the short list of how badly the republicans failed...


Sorry, but anyone who thought these issues were going to be resolved within a year are sorely mistaken. Sorry, but Barak Obama isn't a miracle worker.

ShumaGorath wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:Sure. It's not like she'd be worse than having One Big Ass Mistake, America.

When people say things like this it makes me wonder if they actually know anything about either politician they are commenting on. Probably not.

It's an acronym, and they prove political points better than facts ever will. Why, you can even put it on a bumper sticker, which makes it even more true.

ShumaGorath wrote:
When people say things like this it makes me wonder if they actually know anything about either politician they are commenting on. Probably not.

John does actually know his scat. John does actually troll as well.


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Dronze wrote:
Honestly, I don't see how anyone can say that the man is screwing anything up worse than the bush/cheney administration did during the 8 years they were in power.

That's not necessarily implicit in a comment which essentially means "Obama is bad". As you've already recognized, the reference is to a slogan, not a literal assessment wherein McCain would have been a better choice (though John may believe that).

Dronze wrote:
The collapse of the financial sector? All influenced by republicans.

And Democrats.

Dronze wrote:
This is what happens when you deregulate the banking structure and start letting banks show fake money as real profit (subprime mortgage sales),

Clinton actually enabled that.

Dronze wrote:
dig us into not one, but two, different unstable regions of the globe with no final, discernable goal, and no clear exit strategy,

The cost of both wars, combined, is minimal. There was also a discernible (though not necessarily feasible) goal. Exit strategy follows from victory conditions as realized. Wars rarely begin with an exit strategy in mind.

Dronze wrote:
push congress to grant the executive seat powers that are far beyond it's constitutional scope

That seems more like a success, than a failure; at least given that they supposedly (per your comment) succeeded in their endeavors.

Dronze wrote:
, shovel TRILLIONS of dollars into corporations that are "too big to fail" (and they call themselves capitalist... hah.),

Neoconservatives are closer to social liberalism than classical liberalism, hence all the talk of 'betrayal' amongst the Republican base. Also, its more like trillion, not trillions.

Dronze wrote:
support human rights violations, and appoint activist judges to the supreme court.

Seriously? You're going to talk about 'activist' judges? You realize that only means "judges who don't agree with me" right?

Dronze wrote:
Sorry, but anyone who thought these issues were going to be resolved within a year are sorely mistaken. Sorry, but Barak Obama isn't a miracle worker.

I don't necessarily agree with your list of issues, but I do agree with your final sentiment. Thankfully, he has three more years to put both his, and the Democrats', big girl panties on.

dogma wrote:

Dronze wrote:
The collapse of the financial sector? All influenced by republicans.

And Democrats.

Dronze wrote:
This is what happens when you deregulate the banking structure and start letting banks show fake money as real profit (subprime mortgage sales),

Clinton actually enabled that.

Dronze wrote:

The Savings & Loan Crisis happened under Reagan's watch, though to be fair the enabling legislation was passed by a Democrat House and a Republican Senate.

That has no relation to Palin, though.

Kilkrazy wrote:

Dronze wrote:
The collapse of the financial sector? All influenced by republicans.

And Democrats.

This is actually really important. The deregulation of financial markets isn't a Republican thing or a Democrat thing, it isn't even a US thing. Deregulation was multi-national trend that started decades ago.

The problems won't be solved by turning it into a point scoring exercise - the problem needs international consensus on regulatory frameworks that would prevent something like this happening again.

sebster wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:

Dronze wrote:
The collapse of the financial sector? All influenced by republicans.

And Democrats.

This is actually really important. The deregulation of financial markets isn't a Republican thing or a Democrat thing, it isn't even a US thing. Deregulation was multi-national trend that started decades ago.

The problems won't be solved by turning it into a point scoring exercise - the problem needs international consensus on regulatory frameworks that would prevent something like this happening again.

An international framework for anything just leads to an inefficient system. A nationwide beauracacy is unwieldy enough as is, but that's where we need to look at. Financial regulation, environmental regulation, all of it. If countries would take responsability, we wouldn't have the issues we have now. Everybody looks at these things like it's not their problem, and the blame all just goes adrift. If countries actually took up some of their own regulatory slack, as opposed to everone saying "let's all agree on one set of rules", we might actually see some progress, unlike what we saw at the disaster that was the copenhagen summit, and the jokes that are the UN and the Kyoto accord.