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Scott-S6 wrote:I got a quote for 60 tungsten washers for my vets. Tungsten is several times heavier than steel and I figured that would make the feel nice and stable with the metal melta guns.

The price was £4.92 (approx $7).



Each.

$7 each, you say? So when did GW get into the "base inserts" business? I don't recall seeing them on their website...

Valete,

JohnS

Scott-S6 wrote:I got a quote for 60 tungsten washers for my vets.

The price was £4.92 (approx $7).



Each.

Now you see, this is how GW can justify charging so much for their models... some gamers are willing to drop an extra 420$ just to make sure their models don't fall over (when 60Cents-3$ worth would do the same job)

Alternatively, you could get some GF9 Metal bases, yes GW says to use the base provided and yes they say to use citadel if no base comes, but thats mainly because they are money grubbing and want you to pay them twice over (once for the model and twice for the bases for the model in which they forgot to include for you). These come in handy for some of the metal models in which a coin just isn't enought. I know it saved my Drazor: "Master of Falling on his face Blades". Anyone who would have a problem with using the GF9 20mm bases instead of the citadel 20mm bases probably isn't worth breaking your army out to play against anyway...

I didn't buy them!!

chaos0xomega wrote:Technically (in the US), gluing pennies/nickles to your miniatures is illegal, as it is destroying legal tender, it also serves to drive up inflation as you are removing currency from circulation.

Scott-S6 wrote:In the UK it's legal as long as the queen's face is still visible.

In the UK, the law quite clearly states you can do what you like with your currency. There used to be a weights and measures bylaw that prevented the defacement of money, labelling it treason. About thirty years ago, a new law was passed that basically says "It's YOURS, do with it whatever you like". If you want to burn a £50, go nuts - it's your £50 at the end of the day.

It remains illegal to damage or deface a banknote as per the Currency and Banknotes act 1928 - it's worth noting that it remains perfectly legal to completely destroy banknotes, just not to deface them.
The original offence was under Section 4 of the Coinage Offences act 1936 (section 26), I can't find a cite but I found this.
The act was repealed in it's entirety by the Forgery and Counterfeiting Act of 1981 seen here.

This is all an archaic legacy from the 1865 Coinage Offences act, which was brought in originally to give anyone the power to destroy counterfeit money. An amendment was made to stop me from destroying my neighbors money, just becuase I don't like him, but pretending I thought his money was fake. Although most bizarrely this act, and all subsequent amendments mention gold or silver coins only; brass is brass - no-one cares!

I hope this little history lesson has served you well. Knowledge of the law is very important, and people's ignorance of it is exactly what our country relies on.
I don't mean to step on any toes, but it's a long-standing argument, and the more people who know whats-what, the better.

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle!

I use washers in my mini's.

I could use coins but all my trays (for fantasy) are magnatized so washers work better.

I am from a time and place in 40k history where vast majority of figures were pewter.... and now everything is plastic, i add coins to the bases for one simple reason... to add weight to the model so it feels like its supposed too. I have never gotten used to all the plastic. I added 35c worth of nickels to my plastic dread base just to give it some weight lol.

Yesterday the Scourges were obviously suferring from the side affects of whatever it is the DE's are on and as for the Reavers...

The former will be getting washers in the bases but the reavers are a bit more problematic.
Guess I can stick something directly under their bases.
Does anyone have a solution for weighing down the flying unit bases please?

Tek, I don't have my law books with me but I'm pretty sure there's an offence relating to defacing an image of the monarchy. (not coinage related specifically).

ETA, no, apparently that one's been changed as well!

Tungsten isn't cheap metal.

Check out various websites that sell tungsten for weights used in those little co2 race cars that you make yourself from wood.

1 oz of tungsten putty is approximately $4-6 for a 1oz blob. You might have enough to weight down 3 bases (a 1oz blob is the size of a penny and about 1/4" thick).

Not GW prices, it's just tungsten is more valuable.

Whats up with the talk about it being illegal to glue coins to your bases? lol

FREEZE! Down on the ground LAPD.. Remove the nickel from the underside of your model NOW..

Personally I prefer the models to be as light as possible.. They bounce better when you drop them on accident or move them in groups on the battle field

They also fall over with a slight breeze, and are a huge hassle to deal with during a game.

I carry my armies around in a toolbox with 3 metal drawers and a large upper compartment for vehicles/MCs. I glue neodymium magnets into the base of my infantry models, then I fill the remaining space with number 7 shotshell shot, add super glue and accelerator, and voila, weighted bases with the magnet perfectly secure. The shot also works perfectly for filling odd bases with slots or pegs.

In the Kobalt toolbox I use, I can put at least a hundred standard infantry in just one drawer. They don't rub up against foam, losing paint on elbows and gun barrels, and it's simple to divide and redivide the space for squads. The toolbox is $40.00 at Lowes. The shot was a little pricey at around $60.00, but I have a lifetime supply for 20 armies at least.

Most of my friends in the hobby are doing theirs the same way now. My only issue at this point is that I have 11 toolboxes full of armies, so I'm working on ways to mark or differentiate them.

That's a cool idea, kirby. Why not just mark your armies each a different color. I mean mark the toolbox. Just color code them, put a long strip of paint on the top of the box.

I'm just lazy. When I do something I usually go for extra deluxe, so silly small jobs turn into all afternoon projects. I guess I'm in the right hobby!

I use 1'' washers from Home Depot. They work great.

Quick thing with washers, how do they compare to nickels?

Magnetize better, and are heavier.

Ive done the coin thing with all my stormboyz & handful of the lootas who have such preposterously large guns that they tip over. 1p pieces fit perfectly.

Heavier you say, Karon? Don't washers have a hole in the middle? I would think the Nickel is heavier...

Kirasu wrote:Whats up with the talk about it being illegal to glue coins to your bases? lol

FREEZE! Down on the ground LAPD.. Remove the nickel from the underside of your model NOW..

Personally I prefer the models to be as light as possible.. They bounce better when you drop them on accident or move them in groups on the battle field

Actually, in the United States it would be the Secret Service, not LAPD.

Besides, you wouldn't want LAPD... they would probably shoot you before they said freeze...

If you ever drop your mini and there is a weight on the bottom of you mini, it will fall on the base which will probaly damge your mini, but not as much if it landed on its head.

Using pennies (or even bigger coins) sound like they really would have come in handy with that strigoi vampire model from back when.. that model had serious weight problems..

chaos0xomega wrote:

Kirasu wrote:Whats up with the talk about it being illegal to glue coins to your bases? lol

FREEZE! Down on the ground LAPD.. Remove the nickel from the underside of your model NOW..

Personally I prefer the models to be as light as possible.. They bounce better when you drop them on accident or move them in groups on the battle field

Actually, in the United States it would be the Secret Service, not LAPD.

Besides, you wouldn't want LAPD... they would probably shoot you before they said freeze...

This statement made me laugh in more ways than one...

Particularly imagining the President's personal bodyguard arresting you for gluing nickels to the bottoms of miniatures.

SWAT though... they might stick a combat boot up your rear for doing such a heinous crime...

On topic: I have one marine with a plasma cannon with a penny in his base. As durable as he was (he fell off a 2 story building twice with a nice *thunk*) the penny helped a wee bit. Thought the washer+toolbox idea sounds awesome... I REALLY need a better carrying case. Drop Pod Box with bubblewrap works nice for infantry, but shoebox with vehicles? Bits all over the place!

On that note, if anyone has awesome ways of transporting vehicles... tell me. Those drop pods are a biznitch to fit anywhere.

It astounds me how little americans know about their own government sometimes.

Secret Service is more than just the president's bodyguard. Until around 2003 they were part of the Department of the Treasury. Their duty was (and is) to track down counterfeiters, etc.

As for vehicles, when you assemble them just glue some rare earth magnets to the bottom (on the inside) in an inconspicuous area(usually inside of the track area if its an imperial/ork vehicle). That should hold them down well enough, even through a layer of plastic (just make sure to check polarity beforehand, so the magnets don't try repelling eachother).

chaos0xomega wrote:It astounds me how little americans know about their own government sometimes.

Secret Service is more than just the president's bodyguard. Until around 2003 they were part of the Department of the Treasury. Their duty was (and is) to track down counterfeiters, etc.

As for vehicles, when you assemble them just glue some rare earth magnets to the bottom (on the inside) in an inconspicuous area(usually inside of the track area if its an imperial/ork vehicle). That should hold them down well enough, even through a layer of plastic (just make sure to check polarity beforehand, so the magnets don't try repelling eachother).

Huh. I learned something today. I did not know about their link to the treasury department.

The magnets tip is a good idea too. Methinks I'll be picking up a toolbox and some washers soon!

I just finished gluing pennies to the bases of my Third Company and I have one nickel with the standard... so i've spent a a whole $1.04

chaos0xomega wrote:Actually, in the United States it would be the Secret Service, not LAPD.

Besides, you wouldn't want LAPD... they would probably shoot you before they said freeze...

True. Secret Service lets anybody into Obama's parties, so they're not tough at all.

I'm non-white, so the last thing I ever want to see is a LAPD badge in my face...