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Only problem with the Teclis is...wouldn't the steam tank just kill said S 2 T 2 W 3 Model in the first place?


Also..really, tarpit if you can, otherwise. Shoot it, alot.

I.E. Repeater Bolt throwers (Take 5 of them, spam 30 shots, it will die sooner or later), masses of Archers...etc etc.

>Poison Attacks


....but question for the day, does it count as a warmachine?

If Yes>Last spell in Lore of Life=Dead.

Sakuzhi wrote:Only problem with the Teclis is...wouldn't the steam tank just kill said S 2 T 2 W 3 Model in the first place?
....but question for the day, does it count as a warmachine?

If Yes>Last spell in Lore of Life=Dead.

The issue with killing teclis, is he will be in a unit of PG, or white lions, and got hide in the 2nd rank and still do his single attack, or stayed up front if he had the savage beast of horros.

Actually the Steam Tank now counts as a Chariot. . . and remember that its a split profile now so it gets to use the drivers WS, Strength, and Initiative.

Actually the giant gets to automatically hit "(use the lowest if the model has several different values)" (not BRB its part of the "thump with club" rule)... a dash (-) = 0 and thats the lowest ^_^

It is a chariot but the WS of the driver is irrelevant since its rules say it is hit automatically in CC

If that wasnt the case it would prob be one of the absolute best models in the game

Ironically karl franz kills the steam tank almost in 1 round

Ironically karl franz kills the steam tank almost in 1 round

NG Warboss with Ironclaws Waagh Cleava, any hits auto wound and allow no armor saves, and when fighting a steam tank you auto hit so thats 4 wounds in one round.
BOrc Warboss-245pts
Stank-300pts
After one round of combat its over

Ironclaw's Waaagh! Cleava is an Orc-Only item, to my understanding. A better bet is a Savage Orc Warboss, in that - while it's only one additional attack (5) - it can wipe the STank out in a single Game-Turn, thus you should be free by your next turn no matter what. Problem being you just spent about 20% of your Lord allotment. It just made itself up, yes, but then you have to consider the points of the unit it's parked in.

lomax wrote:Ironically karl franz kills the steam tank almost in 1 round

Best answer I've heard so far...

Ogres will smack it around with Siege Breaker as it counts as S10 and does D6 wounds to things without an I value.

Sarge wrote:Ogres will smack it around with Siege Breaker as it counts as S10 and does D6 wounds to things without an I value.

It actually has an I of three....

With the classification change it uses the I of the driver...

I'll personally just skink blowpipe it to death with poison attacks.

Not too hard.

Well, this thread pretty much lost its relevance.

Q: "how do you handle the steam tank?"

A: "Use virtually any lore of magic and just insta-kill it, or hex it to oblivion."

Shep wrote:Well, this thread pretty much lost its relevance.

Q: "how do you handle the steam tank?"

A: "Use virtually any lore of magic and just insta-kill it, or hex it to oblivion."

If you don't mind me asking, when did this become feasible? A lot of the insta-destruction spells have no strength, and as much as people try to argue it Steam Tanks are immune to them as it's not a Special Rule that conveys magical immunity.

Minsc wrote:

Shep wrote:Well, this thread pretty much lost its relevance.

Q: "how do you handle the steam tank?"

A: "Use virtually any lore of magic and just insta-kill it, or hex it to oblivion."

If you don't mind me asking, when did this become feasible? A lot of the insta-destruction spells have no strength, and as much as people try to argue it Steam Tanks are immune to them as it's not a Special Rule that conveys magical immunity.

Considering a new PDF was just released saying you ignore the part in the army book about them being immune to magic.... Thats how...

Ok so barring the issue that STanks are or are not affected by magic...

What viable options are available to VC armies to combat the seemingly indestructible contraption?

NightChild wrote:Ok so barring the issue that STanks are or are not affected by magic...

What viable options are available to VC armies to combat the seemingly indestructible contraption?

Uhhhh the thing is very destructable....

There are tons of spells out there that will hit it witha bunch of low strength attacks that dont allow armor saves, or hit it with so many its bound to fail a few...

The thing was far from indestructible before the change, now for 300 points its a joke.

Now the steam tank is affected by all magic. On the one hand, it can now be mindrazored up to s10. On the other hand, lore of metal now bends it over in a big way.

Question: Don't Warrior Priests have a buff that brings a character up to full wounds? Couldn't they now, I 'unno, restore an injured Steam Tank now?

This is FAQ MADNESS

Minsc wrote:Question: Don't Warrior Priests have a buff that brings a character up to full wounds? Couldn't they now, I 'unno, restore an injured Steam Tank now?

There are several healing abilities and buffing spells out there.

However, there are just as many spell abilities out there that have a legitimate chance to destroy the S'Tank in a single magic phase before the S'Tank player has a chance to heal it.

Heck, even the signature spell in the Lore of Metal has a chance of destroying the S'Tank in a single casting. Then there are things like the Puprle Sun and the Dwellers Below that can one-shot it.

Kirasu wrote:This is FAQ MADNESS

Wow, and I just orderer a pair of them. Now I need to promptly order some Helblaster/Helstorms, as that just made the STank a lot less useful. What the hell is wrong with GW?!

Minsc wrote:Question: Don't Warrior Priests have a buff that brings a character up to full wounds? Couldn't they now, I 'unno, restore an injured Steam Tank now?

Yes, there are many spells that could buff or heal an injured S'Tank.

Unfortunately, there are also many spells and spell combinations that have the ability to destroy the S'Tank in a single magic phase, rendering the ability to heal it ineffectual.

Saldiven wrote:

Minsc wrote:Question: Don't Warrior Priests have a buff that brings a character up to full wounds? Couldn't they now, I 'unno, restore an injured Steam Tank now?

Yes, there are many spells that could buff or heal an injured S'Tank.

Unfortunately, there are also many spells and spell combinations that have the ability to destroy the S'Tank in a single magic phase, rendering the ability to heal it ineffectual.

None of the healing spells work on the Steam Tank, they all say either character or heal back a number of models and the Steam Tank isn't a character, and is only one model.

ShivanAngel wrote:

Sarge wrote:Ogres will smack it around with Siege Breaker as it counts as S10 and does D6 wounds to things without an I value.

It actually has an I of three....

With the classification change it uses the I of the driver...

Missed that bit obviously. So much for that plan. Then I suppose ogres would attempt to magic missile it to death with Bonecruncher (2d6 S2 no armor save).

Wouldn't throwing the purple sun spell from death at it be the best?

It doesn't "target" the Steam tank and the tank would auto fail it's int. test.

Shouldn't that work?

What would be the best spell for ST? Could WoC nurgle spell "cloying quagmire" be effective? Any other oppinions...

now that they 'refreshed' the FAQ and removed the steam tanks spell immunity, then the dwellers below and purple sun of xereus both auto-kill it. I think there is also one more auto-killer, but i can't recall off-hand.

Sweeeeet. Very happy to hear that indeed!

There's also Shadow's spell. Pit of Shades.

Use the small template and only d6 scatter, yet partials hit completely.

It'll probably hit the steamtank at least 80% of the time since it's so big, maybe more often than that.

Take initiative test or die. Steamtank automatically fails with initiative -, falls in pit and explodes.

The Lore of metal final spell might remove an entire steamtank on a roll of 6.

Clearly Pit of Shades (Shadow), Purple Sun (Death), and Lore of Metal are the 3 steamtank-destroyers.

Wouldn't you test against the drivers INT like a chariot? Or am I completely wrong on that?