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i have 8 books from BL and most are great to read. Most of them to do with the heresy and the SM.

Is it just me or do the books that have any sort of eldar in them seem not to give them any credit?

Avalon wrote:i have 8 books from BL and most are great to read. Most of them to do with the heresy and the SM.

Is it just me or do the books that have any sort of eldar in them seem not to give them any credit?

Path of the Warrior is supposed to be quite good.

I have that, and read it too
its good but moves very fast
little in the way of really getting to know the race on a whole, rather focusing on a few characters and one aspect shrine.
Guess since the eldar are so complex and there are many aspects to the race its difficult to summarize it all into one book
The SM and IM i guess can be since they are a uniformed army, in a manner so its easy

I've read a couple of the black library books. Typically I find them to be enormously disappointing and nearly always poorly written. The only way I can enjoy them is to remember that, much like romance novels, they are a small subgenre with lessened expectations for good plotting which live in that weird space between "real books" and "comic books" - without insulting comic books too much. C.S. Goto doesn't really deserve to be in the same category as Frank Miller.

We deserve better. Some of the short stories in "Let the Galaxy Burn" indicate better is possible, just doesn't seem to be happening.

That being said, I found the best of the lot to be Eisenhorn. Storm of Iron was also ok, although it was also very, very paint-by-the-numbers formulaic. Disclaimer: I have not read the Horus Heresy books yet, which many people say are tied with Eisenhorn.

I'd have to say Nightbringer was the worst so far, that I was able to finish. Hey, we can kill the Nightbringer! Lets not, for no real reason. Let's let him go, instead! You're welcome, universe-at-large!

There are several that I simply could not bring myself to finish. Dawn of War omnibus, Grey Knights, and several of the other dictionaries posing as novels.

Avalon wrote:I have that, and read it too
its good but moves very fast
little in the way of really getting to know the race on a whole, rather focusing on a few characters and one aspect shrine.
Guess since the eldar are so complex and there are many aspects to the race its difficult to summarize it all into one book
The SM and IM i guess can be since they are a uniformed army, in a manner so its easy

Ive not read the book myself. I think there is going to be a whole series that follows the main character from the from the first book as he travels a different aspect.

Ouze wrote:I've read a couple of the black library books. Typically I find them to be enormously disappointing and nearly always poorly written. The only way I can enjoy them is to remember that, much like romance novels, they are a small subgenre with lessened expectations for good plotting which live in that weird space between "real books" and "comic books" - without insulting comic books too much. C.S. Goto doesn't really deserve to be in the same category as Frank Miller.

We deserve better. Some of the short stories in "Let the Galaxy Burn" indicate better is possible, just doesn't seem to be happening.

That being said, I found the best of the lot to be Eisenhorn. Storm of Iron was also ok, although it was also very, very paint-by-the-numbers formulaic. Disclaimer: I have not read the Horus Heresy books yet, which many people say are tied with Eisenhorn.

I'd have to say Nightbringer was the worst so far, that I was able to finish. Hey, we can kill the Nightbringer! Lets not, for no real reason. Let's let him go, instead! You're welcome, universe-at-large!

There are several that I simply could not bring myself to finish. Dawn of War omnibus, Grey Knights, and several of the other dictionaries posing as novels.

I think you've grabbed some of the worse. Read Gaunt's Ghosts its by the author of Eisenhorn.

There's no relation between Eisenhorn and the Horus Heresy.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

I think you've grabbed some of the worse. Read Gaunt's Ghosts its by the author of Eisenhorn.

There's no relation between Eisenhorn and the Horus Heresy.

Unless you say every 40k novel is related to the HH novels

nickmund wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

I think you've grabbed some of the worse. Read Gaunt's Ghosts its by the author of Eisenhorn.

There's no relation between Eisenhorn and the Horus Heresy.

Unless you say every 40k novel is related to the HH novels

All are related to the Horus Heresy but not necessarily the books.

Lord of the Night. Made me respect the Night Lords as a terrifying traitor legion.

Rebel Winter. I am loving it, probably because its NOT the HH. I needed a break. I have descent of Angels and Legion waiting for me. I have been told Legion is god like.

Nah, it sucks.

Flight of the Eisenstien was my fav read, after all this midfortune the survivors are basically shelfed, ship crew killed off to deter further infection, space marines given a pat on the back and told there legions are Tratior's And the mystory starts. All hell breaks out leaving Horus in charge and the Emperor fleeing to Earth to save mankind. Who needs saving I say, Chaos is way better as the Emperor killed off every priest and Religious leader on the planet. The Emperor was insaine.

Happygrunt wrote:Rebel Winter. I am loving it, probably because its NOT the HH. I needed a break. I have descent of Angels and Legion waiting for me. I have been told Legion is god like.

I think legion is ace, especially if you like the alpha legion. Its realy worth reading.

I loved the thousand sons Even though i hate them

I think thousand sons are some of the coolest looking chaos models around, plus they dont go down easily.

nickmund wrote:I think thousand sons are some of the coolest looking chaos models around, plus they dont go down easily.

Thats not true. When I paired them agianst my army. They got owned XD.
His greater demon feel in combat to my awesome Captain. And my Libarain cut off the Thousand Son's Squad and just ripped them apart.
But thousand sons has to be my most favorite BOOK EVER!

Crushy wrote:

nickmund wrote:

Crushy wrote:

nickmund wrote:"In the event of a hull breach and loss of pressure in space, hold your breath, pinch your nose and make swimming movements, find your way to the nearest airlock."

What's wrong about that?


I will abstain from voting, having only read Mechanicus.

The lack of Pressure would cause all the fluids in your body to boil, your eyes would probably explode and even if you could make swimming motions it would'nt get you anywhere, as space is a vacuum, not water. Its not a pretty image

Well, but it wouldn't be instantly... Also from the description I imagined someone still inside a ship with "artificial gravity" off and rapidly losing air.

See here for a good read (I originally found this out somewhere else, but this seems accurate enough): http://www.slate.com/id/2171522/

At most, an astronaut without a suit would last about 15 seconds before losing conciousness from lack of oxygen. (That's how long it would take the body to use up the oxygen left in the blood.) Of course, on Earth, you could hold your breath for several minutes without passing out. But that's not going to help in a vacuum. In fact, attempting to hold your breath is a sure way to a quick death. To make it for even a few seconds, Sunshine's Mace must have expelled the air from his lungs before he ventured into the starry void. If he hadn't, the vacuum would have caused that oxygen to expand and rupture his lung tissue, forcing fatal air bubbles into his blood vessels, and ultimately his heart and brain. Scuba divers are also at risk for air embolism; they're instructed not to hold their breath as they ascend from the deep sea. (copied from slate)


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nickmund wrote:I think thousand sons are some of the coolest looking chaos models around, plus they dont go down easily.

Thats not true. When I paired them agianst my army. They got owned XD.
His greater demon feel in combat to my awesome Captain. And my Libarain cut off the Thousand Son's Squad and just ripped them apart.
But thousand sons has to be my most favorite BOOK EVER!

Wow, man your captain must be kitted out. Its not every day you see somthing like that happen.

Oh come on guys, Space Marine all the way,
who doesn't like the bit where Biff gives the finger to the Warlord Titans?

picked rynns world.

What? Heard that was bad. I guess the next question should be how many BL books have you read? Seems some people have only read 3 and just go with the best one of those.

Hmm, I'm torn between Necropolis, For The Emperor, and A Thousand Sons... They're the three that I really can't choose between in terms of my favourite! =)

I haven't really read many, sorry.

Forgotmytea wrote:Hmm, I'm torn between Necropolis, For The Emperor, and A Thousand Sons... They're the three that I really can't choose between in terms of my favourite! =)

Go for A Thousand Sons, it will make this poll ever so slightly more interesting.

Wow! Even though I have read quite a few, I'm kind of making it my goal now to start at the top of this list and work my way through it

As for my vote .. Tough one .. I really liked Angels of Darkness, A Thousand Sons and Legion and I'm currently reading Soul Hunter which is patently fantastic!

I have to say though that I found Soul Drinkers to be absolutely terrible..

Why? Haven't read them myself but more people seem to dislike it than like so far.

Ive not read angels of darkness. Has anyone ever read the deathwatch series? Im considering buying it, but im not to sure weather its worth it.

I had to go with Galaxy in Flames due to the change in mood. I really enjoyed the change from seeing the good side of Horus in the previous books to the absolute change that falls over him in this book.

Its Tragic Damn you Erebus!

Voted Eisenhorn, but yeah some people hated Titanicus? Really? I thought it was the best depiction of titan-on-titan combat in 40k and far superior to Mechanicum in every aspect.

Good going, its nice to see a few more Eisey fans on here.