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It's apparently NOT a kiwi union that's doing the interfering, it's an AUSSIE union doing it - and that is what has PJs little kiwi nose all bent out of shape.
The union wants him to do a collective agreement with ALL of the actors (something he can't do under NZ law).
The production company are threatening to take it to the same studios where the potter films were done.
Not that I care. The LOTR movies bored me to death and I didn't like the hobbit either (as a book). I preferred Asimov and Heinlein as a kid (and still do).
I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
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... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
mattyrm wrote:I just watched that video.. goddamn unions.
Its all about greed, i find it funny that all these screaming handwringing liberals call everyone else "greedy" when they are the most ridiculously greedy people in the world.
If i was Jackson i'd just do one straight away, feth the fething fethers.
Not that he is going to get any joy over here, the Labour loving lefty loafers are just as bad, and sadly Thatcher is too old to come back and crush them under her boot heels.
If you dont like your job or your wage, then feth off and find another job. Why do employers allow these greedy self serving scumbags to hold them to ransom?
Because the people united will never be defeated.
Back on topic, what about my idea concerning the right place to split the book?
I'm not sure about Lake Town, but I last read the book 3+ years ago, so I'm not sure. It would need to end after a solid plot point, preferrably something climatic that will force people to watch the second.
Bilbo springs the dwarves from the Elf King's dungeon and gets them to Lake Town.
They quickly spruce themselves up and announce themselves as important Dwarf lords come to reclaim the Kingdom under the Lonely Mountain. Basically they manage to overawe the Lake Towners and get support for their expedition up the lake.
That seems like a reasonably good point to end part one and sets up the start of part two.
generalgrog wrote:By the way I just finished reading "The Hobbit" to my 7 year old, and he loved it.
GG
That is by far the best way to be introduced to Middle Earth.
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generalgrog wrote:By the way I just finished reading "The Hobbit" to my 7 year old, and he loved it.
GG
That is by far the best way to be introduced to Middle Earth.
He especially loved the singing parts.
GG
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Kilkrazy wrote:
Spoiler:
Bilbo springs the dwarves from the Elf King's dungeon and gets them to Lake Town.
They quickly spruce themselves up and announce themselves as important Dwarf lords come to reclaim the Kingdom under the Lonely Mountain. Basically they manage to overawe the Lake Towners and get support for their expedition up the lake.
That seems like a reasonably good point to end part one and sets up the start of part two.
Here is the problem as I see it KK. The films ending needs to have a great battle of some sort. The whole purpose of the adventure is to get smaugs treasure. It makes the most sense to end the film with the dwarves+ hobbit, at the very least accomplishing the task of getting to the lonely mountain. And having bilbo encounter smaug. There is no way the first movie should leave out smaug. The dragon is going to be one of the main selling points of the film. Even though the book only has about 10% of story AFTER smaug dies.
my 2 cents
GG
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My introduction was my father playing the 4 LP record version, as performed by Nicol Williamson (Merlin in Excaliber, if you've seen that movie) to us as children, then later reading the book for myself at about 7 I think.
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I got into the Hobbit kinda late, but i first of all read the wonderful Graphic Novel version illustrated by Alan Lee, i think i was about 13?
I then picked up the actual book, and the LOTR followed, so.. its a great book, and probably one of the reasons many of us got into fantasy in the first place.
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
I actually think that getting captured by the elves just after the fight with the spiders is a good break point. We thus end Part 1 with a cliffhanger following a reasonable dust up. And Part 2 begins with Bilbo springing the Dwarves from the Elves' dungeons.
Breaking at Lake Town would leave not a lot happening for the first part of the second film and there would be far too much to jam into Part 1. Having read the book properly now, I agree that narratively, it needs to be two films.
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Yeah I know someone who I am not going to tell you who is going to work for the hobbit. But I can tell you last week he got his Australian passport out and He is going to new zealand as a crewman. And at least 5 months ago he got a "OMG WE NEED YOU, Thing from Peter Jackson."
But I can tell you he is a good friend.
From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
In related news, James Nesbitt has joined the cast as Bofur. Another Irishman into the mix. I wonder if everyone will be able to keep their accents like Billy Boyd in LOTR
The 45-year-old actor, best known for roles in television dramas Cold Feet, Murphy's Law and Jekyll, will play the dwarf Bofur in Peter Jackson's two-film adaptation of the classic J.R.R. Tolkien novel.
In a statement, Jackson said: "James's charm, warmth and wit are legendary as is his range as an actor in both comedic and dramatic roles. We feel very lucky to be able to welcome him as one of our cast."
Bofur is described as a "disarmingly forthright, funny and occasionally brave dwarf", and accompanies Bilbo and Thorin on the Quest of Erebor in the original book.
It was also announced that newcomer Adam Brown has been cast as fellow dwarf Ori. Jackson commented: "Adam is a wonderfully expressive actor and has a unique screen presence. I look forward to seeing him bring Ori to life."
Nesbitt and Brown join a number of other actors who have previously been confirmed for the project, including Martin Freeman, Richard Armitage, Aidan Turner and Rob Kazinsky. Sylvester McCoy has also declared his involvement.
After a string of well-publicised union disputes, Warner Bros last week agreed a deal to shoot the movies in New Zealand. The films are expected to hit cinemas in December 2012 and December 2013.
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Lord Of The Rings composer Howard Shore has confirmed that that he will return to score Peter Jackson's The Hobbit.
Shore told The Province that he has been discussing reuniting with Jackson for the two-part Hobbit adaptation since 2002.
"It looks like finally it's going to be happening," he said. "I'll be working on it for the next three years - it's going to consume a lot of my time and work now."
Shore composed the music for Jackson's fantasy trilogy - winning Oscars for Fellowship Of The Ring and Return Of The King - and worked with the director on King Kong before leaving over creative differences.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
lol, they don't need to have a huge dwarf cast, for most of the movie only Gandalf is exceptionally tall out of the traveling group.
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Sir Ian McKellen and Andy Serkis have signed up to reprise their Lord of the Rings roles in The Hobbit, it has been revealed.
According to The Hollywood Reporter, McKellen has finally agreed to return as Gandalf for Peter Jackson's upcoming two-parter, while Deadline has also confirmed that Serkis will appear once more as Gollum.
Both characters feature in the original J.R.R. Tolkien novel - although Gandalf's role stretches across the book, whereas Gollum's involvement is confined to one chapter.
The pair join a number of Lord of the Rings cast members thought to be returning for the Warner Bros picture, including Elijah Wood, Orlando Bloom and Cate Blanchett.
The Hobbit is due to start filming in New Zealand on February 14, and will be released in cinemas in December 2012 and December 2013.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
When I first saw 'M_______ Freeman', I immediately thought of good ol' Morgan (for reasons unknown); my mind then somewhat wandered to his lesser known counterpart: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8X4rST4YvY
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Wait why is Elijah Wood coming back? He had no flipping role at all? Plus he sucked!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
He just sucked. He was the weak spot of the whole series.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
I couldnt agree more Frazz. He actually gave a bit of a homosexual flavor to Frodo. I mean seriously Frodo was a big sissy the entire time. If it werent for Sam, everyone would of failed and Sauron would of won. Simple as that
Medium of Death wrote: Maybe it starts off with him reading Bilbo's book or something equally as lame.
That's what the scuttlebutt has suggested. Or it might be a cameo role towards the end.
If it werent for Sam, everyone would of failed and Sauron would of won.
.well....yes. That's very much the point of the character.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
Medium of Death wrote:Thinking about it, you think Sauron would have posted a guard at the entrance of mount doom...
Also i'm really quite peeved that James Nesbitt is going to be in this, he annoys the gak out of me.
That's what I don't get. How do you stop two hobbits dropping a ring into a volcano? Lock the damn door.
I also didn't get why the gate was opened to Aragorn + his small-ass army remnants:
Aragorn: "Let the lord of the Black Land come forth! Let justice be done upon him!"
Mouth of Sauron: "... No!"
Aragorn: *sad face*
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Medium of Death wrote:Thinking about it, you think Sauron would have posted a guard at the entrance of mount doom...
Also i'm really quite peeved that James Nesbitt is going to be in this, he annoys the gak out of me.
That's what I don't get. How do you stop two hobbits dropping a ring into a volcano? Lock the damn door.
I also didn't get why the gate was opened to Aragorn + his small-ass army remnants:
Aragorn: "Let the lord of the Black Land come forth! Let justice be done upon him!"
Mouth of Sauron: "... No!"
Aragorn: *sad face*
Alternatively, if you have access to a air force *cough giant eagles *cough USE IT.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!