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Ma55ter_fett wrote:If I were to split the book into 2 movies I would end the first right before they go into mirkwood.
This would allow them to really do justice to all the little things that make the hobbit such a great book.
The rumor was that Part 1 would end with Smaugs slaying, with the second part dealing with the Dwarves defense of the treasure and the battle of five armies.
GG
I think thats kind of dumb, I mean there isn't that much that happens after Smaug's death, just one big o battle and then its over...
Ma55ter_fett wrote:If I were to split the book into 2 movies I would end the first right before they go into mirkwood.
This would allow them to really do justice to all the little things that make the hobbit such a great book.
The rumor was that Part 1 would end with Smaugs slaying, with the second part dealing with the Dwarves defense of the treasure and the battle of five armies.
GG
I think thats kind of dumb, I mean there isn't that much that happens after Smaug's death, just one big o battle and then its over...
That's what I was thinking. If that's how they are going to do it most of the second film will be the screenwriters work not Tolkeins.
I'm not going to moan about it but I personally believe the only reason this film has been split into two parts is to get more money out of it. They know it will be a hit as it's off the back of the LOTR films so they want as much as they can get. The Hobbit is not a long book.
I think they are using the events between the hobbit and LOTR as the basis for the 2nd book. I can't think of anything else. Its a little bit troubling.
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whatwhat wrote:
.... most of the second film will be the screenwriters work not Tolkeins.
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I don't think that has ever been hidden. DelToro/Jackson have always said that they were going beyond the Hobbit, and explore other aspects of Tolkiens appendices. This is why the necromancer is supposed to be a large part of this, whether in 1st or 2nd film. I personally am looking forward to getting to see more of the Tolkien universe.
GG
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generalgrog wrote:I tell ya there is so much money that Jackson helped to pump into the NZ economy those unions are crazy to try and shut The Hobbit down. Greedy Ingrates.GG
Apparently NZ unions are as idiotic and self destructive as the ones in the US.
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I will chainfist a pretentious English literature student who wears a beret.
whatwhat wrote:
.... most of the second film will be the screenwriters work not Tolkeins.
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I don't think that has ever been hidden. DelToro/Jackson have always said that they were going beyond the Hobbit, and explore other aspects of Tolkiens appendices. This is why the necromancer is supposed to be a large part of this, whether in 1st or 2nd film. I personally am looking forward to getting to see more of the Tolkien universe.
GG
If they are doing the White Council vs Souron aka The Necromancer they're probably going to have to replace christopher lee as Saruman. Unless they CGI the zimoframe out afterwards.
... I know he's been this way for a few years now, but I still cannot get used to Peter Jackson looking quite so thin.
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generalgrog wrote:
Ma55ter_fett wrote:If I were to split the book into 2 movies I would end the first right before they go into mirkwood.
This would allow them to really do justice to all the little things that make the hobbit such a great book.
The rumor was that Part 1 would end with Smaugs slaying, with the second part dealing with the Dwarves defense of the treasure and the battle of five armies.
GG
That would be... terrible. I like the anti-climax at the battle of five armies. Plus, by continuing the whole story to deal with Dol Guldur is bad for 2 reasons: 1) It's not Tolkien, it's gonna be hack writers. 2) Other than Gandalf, the main characters aren't really center stage in this plot. So, you know Bilbo is going to be taking a side trip down through Mirkwood.
But, let's be honest. I'm going to see this in theaters 2-3 times, and buy the DVD and watch it at least a half dozen more. Then, buy the extended versions of the DVDs when they come out a few months later...
... I know he's been this way for a few years now, but I still cannot get used to Peter Jackson looking quite so thin.
Thanx for the link. I find this quite amazing. The process of trying to get this film made has visibly aged PJ. He looks haggard from the stress. First there was the fight with the tolkien estate, then the film studio going under..now this?
Also whats up with the cat fight between the aussies and kiwis here? Is there some bad blood between you guys?
Kilkrazy wrote:Apparently they are getting in some specialist modermakers from the US.
Nice model but only three tiers, the Peter Jackson film version only had five tiers. The Minas Tirith is supposed to have seven.
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whatwhat wrote:Bit of an Alan Partridge moment no?
I've recreated Minas Tritih in matchsticks!
Hmmm, good...not right though is it. Ah ha!
Were it not Dakka, I would have said nothing. Model critique is normal here yes.
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Flashman wrote:Fair enough, but I think it would have worked better as a single 2-3 hour film with a big arse battle (five armies, Woo Hoo!) at the end. The only thing of any relevance to Lord of the Rings is the Gandalf, Gollum and The One Ring and the story covers those quite nicely.
I wouldn't mind some kind of Necromancer subplot (he is mentioned in the text by Gandalf as something else that he is attending to).
The necromancer mentioned in The Hobbit IS Sauron.
A simple Google search will solve all your problems, my friend. Believe me, I doublechecked before I posted any corrections, even though I was sure I was right. The Hobbit came first, and so Tolkein supposedly didn't have the whole story fleshed out at that point.
Its all about greed, i find it funny that all these screaming handwringing liberals call everyone else "greedy" when they are the most ridiculously greedy people in the world.
If i was Jackson i'd just do one straight away, feth the fething fethers.
Not that he is going to get any joy over here, the Labour loving lefty loafers are just as bad, and sadly Thatcher is too old to come back and crush them under her boot heels.
If you dont like your job or your wage, then feth off and find another job. Why do employers allow these greedy self serving scumbags to hold them to ransom?
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
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mattyrm wrote:I just watched that video.. goddamn unions.
Its all about greed, i find it funny that all these screaming handwringing liberals call everyone else "greedy" when they are the most ridiculously greedy people in the world.
If i was Jackson i'd just do one straight away, feth the fething fethers.
Not that he is going to get any joy over here, the Labour loving lefty loafers are just as bad, and sadly Thatcher is too old to come back and crush them under her boot heels.
If you dont like your job or your wage, then feth off and find another job. Why do employers allow these greedy self serving scumbags to hold them to ransom?
Because the people united will never be defeated.
Back on topic, what about my idea concerning the right place to split the book?
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