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Archmagos_Amadeus: Yeah less humanoid would be cool. Main problem with this guy is that I made him up as I went and never really intended anything like this, in hindsight something like that would be good to do and I may have to have a bash at something like that further down the line.

Rook:

2: Yeah possible that they'd use large sea creatures I guess. I think it'll depend on how far I go in terms of whether they are going to have a tribal theme or whether I go pure high tech.

3: Yeah given that they don't seem to be overly military in design that sounds about right.

4: I've thought about sonic weapons and was thinking maybe something that goes against the grain and turns the armour of the target into something that works against them. So lighter armoured troops are harder to kill but the heavier armoured stuff gets turned to slush.

5: Yeah there definitely needs to be some purpose for the shrine warriors. Depends on whether the shrine is a religious site or a habitat I guess.

6: Sounds about right.

Gathering Storm: That's a good idea mate, if the tentacles don't work I'll try that.

Irdiumstern: Yeah the rifle needs some work still. There weren't any sprue bits used with this guy but I did use some plastic rod for the gun.

battle Brother Lucifer: I could try that if I go the rebreather route actually and work it into the design.

Bit of a an update.

Tried the cthulu face idea to see if it works.

Yes, yes it does.

I am seriously interested in buying one if ever you were to sell them.

hey Doghouse He has a Face Now! yay! he looks Just right ! aquatic and brutish , i can see you have Advanced moddeling techniques, i think i like were this is headed mate! Whats Next?

Same. That sculpting is amazing.

I like the Cthulu head. I think that is the best one (a re-breather wouldn't look as good IMHO).

That new face makes him much less tau, very impressed with all your work!

Glad I found this plog again. Looking very good.

Having the army Cthuluesque (just caught that whilst scanning) would certainly open it out into some interesting areas...for instance you could have human cultists or great fish/dragon/octupus demons....

Going to go back and read the fluff....

Wow, I read the title of the thread and was all "meeehhhh". I was very pleasantly suprised!

Ok couple of comments:

On the vehicle; um, if they live underwater they would not need wheels IMHO. I would suggest some form of jet engine device which was based on the cephalopod.

Luckily you have already sculpted a squid like face. Face/Race...thinking of the fluff of 40k, where would these guys fit in? Where they created by the Slann to work on water based planets, just as humans were for land?Are they latently pyschic (like zoats) able to commune with all manner of sea creatures/monsters....


Also, logically speaking their vehicles would probably be extremely heavily armoured (to survive under large amounts of water pressure ) but fairly slow moving on land. Submarines are quick underwater and slow on land. Vice versa with a car. Saying that, it depends how you see them technologically. They may have simply adapted the jet engine to use on land/air...in which case they would be quick and light...


Weaponry, sound waves and a type of depth charge device seem to be logical. You could also have adapted homing torpedoes.

The sculpt is really good. How would the rest of the population look? Do they have different castes? (There are lots of different types of cephalopods)...fishers/politicians/warriors/land raiders (as in hardened warriors who visit the land) What do the castes do?

How are they ruled and what is their religion...?

Is this guy both?:




The reason I am asking these questions is because I think with the skill you have shown so far, and the kernel of an idea you have you are on to something.

Ps. I think you would do well to look at Cthulu, not least as you could find exisiting minis to harvest, and it has a lot of info for you to build on. Also, it is something other than chaos and order...something older...


Manok.

Fantastic work as always DH, I can't wait to see these guys painted up! For some reason I am picturing bright colors mostly, like a reef fish of some kind.

Excellent work Doghouse. That's a very impressive piece! I think the tentacles look great, but I did like the face before hand as well, reminiscent of a manatee... actually it reminded me of Dr. Dugong from an episode of 'The Venture Brothers' entitled: "tears of a sea cow.
(http://www.venturefans.org/vbwiki/Dr._Dugong)

How about an aquatic war machine similar to a sentinel? I thought it could be some sort of heavy construction machinery that looks as though it has been hurriedly refitted for combat... it could be enclosed like the IG sentinel or more like the powered loader from Aliens. Either way, the kind of thing you would slap together in an emergency situation, like say, oh I don't know... surprise space marines!?

Chees guys!

Ma55ter_fett: Well I may be making these into a generic sci-fi race that I can sell rather than making my own 40k race for personal use. I do have a game system lined up that I can use but may just sell them for people to use whatever way they wish.

neil101: Next up is going to be a Lore Keeper. The idea that I have forming is that the Tarrassi have found evidence to suggest that they come from another part of the galaxy, the shrine warriors will be the guardians of their colonies which are for what ever reason known as shrines. The job of the Lore Keeper will be to identify evidence to help them locate this supposed lost home world which in game terms will probably give them something like 1d3 additional objective markers in games where they are used. The more important reason for this guy is that I can do an unarmoured to show off their anatomy a little better. I have a few ideas but want to add a set of additional limbs on the torso so that as they shrine warriors are wandering about doing their thing they can make modifications to their suit systems using these limbs inside the torso of the suit rather than have something like marine autosenses.

Gathering Storm: Yeah a rebreather is still on the cards as I may give one of the Lore Keepers one.

manoknok: Yeah there certainly is plenty of room for scope with something like this, some sort of aquatic beast would certainly fit the rule of cool.

agroszkiewicz: Sorry about that mate. I was a bit concerned no-one would pop in to see what was going on with that title but am glad people are liking what they are seeing.

Manok: The wheels thing would be for when they come up onto the limited dry land. The idea would be that once it enters the water it sort of flips onto it's side and behaves like a conventional sub sort of thing. It's mainly for the rule of cool rather than anything else though, I do have plans for a walker that has octopus like legs so it looks more like an upright squid in design.

I'm not sure where they fit into the greater scheme of things but really don't want to imply that they have any real effect on the universe. They are more of a foot note in an obscure history book that is sat on the back of a dusty shelf of the administratium. I think that it would make sense that they are the off shoot of a Slann created species though, not sure about psychics but if they were one of their offspring it would make sense to give them powers.

Jet engines or hover tech would probably fit in quite well and like you say this leaves it open for further expansion into where they are going technology wise.

As for weaponry I'm considering a resonance weapon where it fires a concentrated energy beam that causes the molecules of the target's armour to vibrate liquidising the contents. The rough idea is a strength 3 weapon that uses the armour save as the target's toughness value, so the more armour the target has the greater the risk of it being turned into soup. Whether or not this means they wouldn't get a save I'm not sure but it would mean that they are less effective against the likes of lightly armoured guard which might be fun.

Like I say I hope to explore the look of the race with the Lore Keeper. I think that a divide in command might make for an interesting concept, with the destruction of their homeworld and their ruling council the colonies are very much on their own. What I'm thinking is a divide, one lot think that the warriors should lead where as the other think that the Lore Keepers should lead them to their original world.
The idea being that the Lore Keepers were a minor presence in the old way of thinking basically they were book keepers that made records of old artefacts. With the change of events the balance has now swung in their favour however with many believing them to be the salvation of their people. So you have this quasi sort of religion forming around them and they are loving the attention, the warriors on the other hand are more practically minded and are more concerned with survival of the species rather than chasing what they see as fairy tales.

MajorTom11: Yeah so can I actually. I should be casting the first test model soon with any luck so I can play around with colours then.

Imperator ltraexercitus: Yeah I do like the first face as well to be honest for the reasons you gave. The squid face thing does make them look more alien though.
I do have a few ideas concerning a walker funnily enough, the top half sort of has a shrine warrior pilot build in with sort of squid like legs from the waist down. With any luck it should look pretty freaky.

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I really like the newest face sculpt - very aquatic and alien looking! Also, the idea of pressurized, water-filled transports and war machines being blasted away and emptying like a pool with a busted liner puts quite the smile on my face

If your going to sell them at some point I'd buy at least five of the Shrine Warriors for use in necromunda-ish games. Maybe more if I wanted a Cthulu army of dark insanity.

Looking awesome, dude

As for the weapon, how about using the armour save as the toughness and the gun counting as strength 4 (so 2+ save is toughness 2) with no save (cover and invulnerable is still okay), but if they survive they act with 1 less Bs, Ws and I due to the intense vibrations?

This would make them good against heavy infantry, but not great against say, Ork boys, but lessens the chance of them being minced on the subsequent turn.

S_P

I think negating the Armor save would make them a bit too strong for the average rifle but the idea of wounding based on armor save sounds cool.

I figure the idea could be that, the weaker, average weapons could not be strong enough to totally disintegrate armor but instead, rattles and melts parts of the armor. Hence, the more armor they wear, the easier they are to wound but it would take concentrated fire to completely eradicate the armor. It should still have an AP of 5 though because I figure, even though they have less armor to vibrate, weaker troops just have less armor to liquefy, leaving them more open to the weapons attacks.

Conversely I think simply saying the enemy has -1 to their armor save from these weapons would work well, if similar to WHF.

Then I figure a lot of their more powerful weapons would be low AP weapons with average stregnth

The cthulu head rocks my socks!!!

Are you going to cast this one or make some more?

Rocks my socks.

Possibly the greatest line I've heard for a while.

Could you have their leaders cause insanity/fear?

Just like in the Cthulhu games, the key is to keep your marbles....

Should count them as Pan Fo make that one guys dreams come true. Great stuff though.

qoute " Next up is going to be a Lore Keeper. The idea that I have forming is that the Tarrassi have found evidence to suggest that they come from another part of the galaxy, the shrine warriors will be the guardians of their colonies which are for what ever reason known as shrines. The job of the Lore Keeper will be to identify evidence to help them locate this supposed lost home world which in game terms will probably give them something like 1d3 additional objective markers in games where they are used. The more important reason for this guy is that I can do an unarmoured to show off their anatomy a little better. I have a few ideas but want to add a set of additional limbs on the torso so that as they shrine warriors are wandering about doing their thing they can make modifications to their suit systems using these limbs inside the torso of the suit rather than have something like marine autosenses. "

Sounds like fun! its really taking shape now, the whole fluff and characters ,its nice to be able to see the progression as well!

2nd attempt at the head is gold for me.

I cant see the picture?

WOW!! I love the tentacle face
can't wait to see more!

Those face tentacles look pretty neat. If you want to try something else, you could model a beak, possibly behind the tentacles.

Nice work, I'm SO glad you're back sculpting again. You're right up there on the list of people that got me back into the hobby with your work.

You have some excellent definition and shape with your GS.. just out of curiosity (and blatant assistance required), what blend do you use to get it that crisp?

The cthullu face is very good. I really hope you put these up for sale!

I'm definately a fan of the sculpt.

If you need any help getting this made I'll do what I can to help out as I love the piece and I'd like to see it available.

The idea for a disruptor style wepaon is pretty cool, reminds me a bit of the sonic weapons in dune. Sonic weaponry would be very powerful underwater as sonic compression works much better. Makes a lot of sense from development perspective as dolphins can blast fish unconcious with sonar or concussion from tail slapping against the surface so there's already real wolrd natural weapons it can draw on.

If they can tune their disruptor or sonic weapon to their harmonic resonance of the opponent it'd shatter even the super dense stuff like power armor.

Looks almost "Tau'ish" to me, but that's not bad at all! Amazing sculpting, keep up the good work.

I take that back! The one with the helmet did, that helmetless one looks fantastic. (Not that the other one didnt.)

Do you have access to the Call of Cthulu Roleplay book? In it there is a bestiary...which might be useful...

I like the idea of Lore Keeper...would it be a psychic model?

Perhaps a third eye....