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Thanks mate.

I could do but I'd have to drop the 40k background material and sell them as a generic alien race and vehicles rather than something specific to 40k.

I'll see how the casting goes and take it from there.

SHeesh this is lookin goood

Very interesting - will be keeping an eye on this.

More!

Very cool! Looks to be the start of a very good army.

the concept tank looks cool indeed!
as this is a former peaceful race they probably would have vehicles for shifting around masses to heavy to carry or like you said for fending of predatory animal life. so i would expect in vehicles a bit like the alien heavy lifters, claws to carry stuff , maybe drills and lasers more for cutting than shooting...

we definitly need more of your sketches, they will be great, always like sketches of concept art^^

keep up the good worke mate, vik

Wow bud its really good to see something original, and i think the fluff goes very nicely with the look of the model..

I agree with "viktor von domm" they should have alot of multi lasers and drills...

Also you could add that because they were peaceful they didnt really have many different types of weapons so they had to capture imperial weapons and adapt them into weapons they could use...

jim.

jimmy72nd wrote: they should have alot of multi lasers and drills...

Hmm, a possible route but the last thing I think you want to create is underwater squats.

Cheers guys, glad they are going down so well so far.

As far as the weapons are concerned I may go the route of crystal based weapons but not sure, I think I'll play around with a few ideas and see what works. Maybe some sort dart weapons or something.

Its nice to see original stuff. , could go the dune route and have amplified weapons , sound or water, ice steam maybe. good luck

Very cool armoured suit. I am looking forward to seeing what else you come up with.

I don't think you need to worry about the design of the alien because..."no one has ever seen what they look like because when an attempt to open the suit is made, the bodies incinerate..."

That way, people can come up with their own ideas while you focus on getting more variety.

later on, you can worry what they look like.

I don't think a mono wheel suits your fluff...it is not the best vehicle for undersea use and I would suggest that they would have multi-environment kit because of the limits to their tech...

Really cool warrior! Can't wait to see more!

Doghouse when you say dart weapons are you thinking blow pipes or more along the lines of a harpoon based weapon?

neil101's idea of sonic weapons could be quite sweet.

In regards to crystal based weapons I think you may be straying a little too close to Eldritch tech, however I was thinking Coral Blades sound kind of cool, counts as relic blade maybe.

for sonic weapons i would suggest some lego parts to use, the have some nice dishes and so forth that could be quite good for that...

Cheers guys.

I think there are a number of different ways I could go as to what weapons they use at this point so I'll try and play around a bit to see what works. Ideally I'm after something that looks cool that I can make stuff up about afterwards.

Inso: Yeah the thing in the suit isn't really as important as what you can actually see I guess. I really want to make some smaller civilians at a later date so I think I'll address it then.

I've got to finish a model for a mate first but as soon as he's finished I'll be getting this guy finished and see about casting some up for a group shot.

Before I even clicked on this thread I thought "Oh here we go, another dude trying his hand at making his own race".
Then I looked at that first green and was blown away! I read the fluff and then thought "My goodness, this is pretty awesome, and that's a cool model for a 30mm base... Holy gak it's on a 40mm base! That's awesomesauce!!"

Seriously good stuff man. I'd like to imagine the suit is a full of pressurised water, and allows this aquatic race to walk on dry land unencumbered. I'd love to see some more stuff from you. Is it too much to want giant crabs?

Woot since i am currently on a sculpting rampage im stealing your idea(its beautiful)

Cheers guys.

Tek: I was seriously hoping I'd get that reaction.

Thank you very much for the compliment.

In hindsight I guess I should have put a little more thought into the project title. Yeah some sort of pressurised suit would be really cool, mabye they are immersed in some sort of fluid within the suit or something like that.
Not sure about a giant crab but maybe a large alien crab like creature might work.
I'm glad the bigger than people are used to model works though, I honestly can't wait to get the first squad made and start adding all the individual touches and details to flesh them out. I think that because there will be less models in my army (and probably get creamed as a result...) there is a larger scope for making them individuals, so stuff like helmet and minor paint scheme variations should make for an interesting looking force.

foor301: Aw don't go stealing my idea mate.

For the big alien I've removed the loin cloth and helmet, drilled out the torso and added a head. Nothing set in stone as yet and I may alter it but for the time being it serves my purposes.
I've also hollowed out the helmet so that I can fit it over the head rather than have a hollowed out neck area with a separate head and helmet.

Thats some wicked badass sculpting!
Having just stumbled upon this, i have to say, with the helmet off.. the feet and face look very tau to me. at least there's a proper nose
For an amphibian race, i was expecting gills or something?
maybe i'm just crazy.

I agree, some gills would look good one the face.
I just thought of this, but to make it look less like Tau, what if they had mouths like cats, like a split lip on the top, or something.

I was thinking about something like a cthulu type face. Gills are a possibility but the main problem is that the neck line is below armour so you wouldn't be able to see it anyway.

I'll play around with it a bit more and see what works.

I like everything but the rifle. Atm, it looks somewhat like a civil war era musket.
The Sculpt itself looks pretty awesome. Looks to me like you used sprue bits for some of the parts, right?

What about gills on the concave area on the sides of each cheek

Cthulu face would be cool (so that Cthulu can spread insanity throughout the 40k universe as well) and would help to detract from them "looking like Tau".

However, another (better IMHO) idea would be to sculpt some cool respirator thing onto the mouth area. As it would help to detract away from "Tau-ishness", it would look really cool and, if you changed the fluff, then it could be that the Tarrassi cannot breath oxygen from the atmosphere, only from water. This would make them even more unique, because practically every 40k race breathes atmospheric gases (mostly oxygen).

doghouse wrote:I was thinking about something like a cthulu type face. Gills are a possibility but the main problem is that the neck line is below armour so you wouldn't be able to see it anyway.

I'll play around with it a bit more and see what works.

How about holes in the head... cetacea style.

FTL

Wow, i'm subscribed! They strike me as some kind of kroot mercenary with the humanoid finesse of marines. Awesome!!

I would buy it. I am also not sure about the rifle, doesnt really look straight and I think a sort if power glaive would look better.

Alright, love this idea. Love seeing new ideas. Lot of suggestions incoming.

1. If they're totally alien, why make them so human analogous? I like their design but under the mask, think outside the box. Maybe make them eyeless and they can navigate entirely by some other means. That or multiple eyes. Possibly multiple mouths or something. Go crazy. Make some sketches.

2. Without a lot of weapons themselves they could instead herd many semi-aquatic monstrous creatures to help them fight. They could have crab or octopus like (or possibly some combination of Crab, Shark and Octopus) big creatures that they either ride or herd into the enemy to help them fight.

3. Many of their vehicles can be modified fishing/mining vehicles. Probably many of them smaller and since they're from deep underwater, probably filled with water and pressurized as well as being pretty tough. I want to suggest hover technology because that seems like the most logical but there are a lot of hover vehicles in 40k. Maybe a mixture of vehicle types.
Smaller hovering "fishing vessels" with mounted weapons and a special ability that they can fly overhead and drop nets filled with crude bombs on the enemy.
Larger vehicles that are modified crawlers. Either big walkers like defilers or a slug like walker which is a modified Harvester type thing that moves slow but it tough as nails and carries troops.

4. Sonic Weaponry. It's unique and so much stuff can be done with it. They could have laser/crystal weaponry mixed in for some of their heavier weapons (I personally think their close combat weapons could all be diamond). Their basic weapons could be sonic assault weapons with 2 shots, Average strength and little AP but all of them should have pinning. Then their bigger sonic weapons would be Blast or Big Blast weapons with pinning and better AP.

5. Given the existence of shrine warriors you could make a natural assumption that the Tarrassi aren't entirely peaceful and they probably have some weaponry. I could see the race, having finally reached new worlds and became more of a merchant group, began moving further and further away from large scale conflict and more towards smaller "police action" type fights where small conflicts or disputes might break out between different merchant guilds. This could cause many of the fighters being smaller, more elite, mercenary forces that work either for the guilds themselves or for the overall hierarchy of the race that act as arbiters for these conflicts.
The shrine warriors themselves though could be a throwback to the days of open warfare, similar to Japanese Warrior Monks, who would offer their services to a warlord as an elite fighting force. In recent times they act mostly as spiritual leaders who practice fighting as a form a discipline and safeguard many of the races ancient and powerful weapons just to keep them out of general use. During the recent extermination though, they are forced to open up the vaults.
I can see many of their basic troops being conscripted civilians, brought in recently to try and create an actual army to fight off similar threats. (sorry if I am throwing too much out here, I am not trying to make this for you, The idea just kind of excited me)

6. Stat wise. They seem like, as big as they are, they could be like weaker Nobs. Off the top of my head, this is what I would make their basic, civilian type troops:
WS 3 BS 3 S4 T4 W2 I3 A 1 or 2 LD7 4+ Save (above water life support suit) This would make them weak enough to be about 16-18 pts.making them a decent cost for big powerful troops.
I figure their elite troops would be quite a bit better, stronger/tougher More attacks. Better armor and weapons.

Anyway, these are just my suggestions, you don't have to use any of them. I like where this is going though. Good luck with how everything works out. I am looking forward to seeing how this turns out.

Rook wrote:2. Without a lot of weapons themselves they could instead herd many semi-aquatic monstrous creatures to help them fight. They could have crab or octopus like (or possibly some combination of Crab, Shark and Octopus) big creatures that they either ride or herd into the enemy to help them fight.

Did somebody say Sharktopus?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SO_JYKtl9A8/S8eRg5xw76I/AAAAAAAAFUg/SI-jQvFCAds/s1600/sharktopus.jpg

In all seriousness, excellent sculpting work and its great to see the combination of respect for existing fluff and desire to create ones own. They have a sort of Volus-from-mass effect-look about them but a more traditional feel.

I do agree with Rook in the sense that perhaps a less humanoid look would be more appropriate. The existing head, although fantastically done, does have a very tauish look about it, and seems a little TOO large for the mounting. It is entirely possible that they do not have a bipedal structure at all, like the Daleks from Doctor Who, and are a smaller, weaker body controlling a larger robotic host to survive in the hostile undersea environment.

Keep up the good work

Damn, beaten to the sharktopus link

Outstanding work on these guys, will be following for sure.