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**shrike**

Maelstrom808 wrote:And the winner of the most rediculously expensive points waste of all time that will never see light of day in a normal 40k game, yet for when something just HAS to die:

30x Death Company: dual thunderhammers, jetpack, Lemartes
9x Sanguinary Priests: power armor, combiflamer, lightning claw, jetpack

120 thunderhammer, 27 lightning, and 3 MC'd power weapon attacks on the charge. Thunderhammers reroll hits and wounds. Lightning claws reroll wounds. All have Furious Charge and Feel No Pain. It can all be yours for the low, low cost of 3900 points.

Back in the realm of semi-reality, I'm a fan of the decked out Genestealers with Broodlord...again though I don't think I'd spend that many points on a single unit of pretty fragile stealers.

One word for that- overkill.

I have a CC squad that can get through pretty much any unit that stands between them and thier target-
Captain Shrike (3rd)- 195
Chapter master Areth Caan- 270
Captain Korvydae (10th)- 155
Captain Corveus (7th)- 195
Captain Mantor (8th)- 195
Captain Solari (2nd)- 153
Captain no name yet (1st)- 155
Captain Shaan (4th)- 170
Captain no name yet (6th)- 175
Captain Learchus (5th)- 165
Captain Glavius (9th)- 158

Vanguard veteran squad Fennon- 700

Total cost- 2686 points!!!
(and I actually have this lot! apart from the captain of the 6th, which i am getting before X'mas

)

**Ailaros**

but you can't use HQ choices.

As for the power blob v. space wolves, assuming they all have storm shields, they lose 2 wolves a turn from power weapons (then there's the rest of the squad...). More importantly, the loss of every wolf decreases the killing power by 10%, while the power blob doesn't start losing it's serious killing power until you reduce it by 45 models

Plus, I think it's easy to overestimate the damage caused by super-units. A terminator with a thunder hammer and a storm shield still only puts down, what 2 attacks? That's 1 guardsman a turn, or 1.6 with 3. A blob can EASILY outlast that kind of damage.

And for the record, a 55-dude power blob costs 525 points, so it BETTER whomp ass.

**BloodThirSTAR**

Here is a unit that can beat down the blob:

7x BA assault term/5x lightning claw & 2x th/ss
Chaplain
Sanguinary Priest/power sword

On the charge:
5x 4 attacks from lightning claws = 20 attacks, 18 hit w. rerolls, 18 wound
8x power weapon attacks (Chaplain & Priest) = 8 hit w. rerolls, 5 wounds
6x thunderhammer attacks = 6 hit w. rerolls, 5 wounds

So 28 dead guardsmen on the charge.

**Lycaeus Wrex**

Exactly. 525 points. A 30-man Ork w/ Klaw Nob comes in at 215 points. You can get the better part of two mobs for that one unit. And those two mobs will ANNIHILATE the blob squad with almost contemptuous ease. I know this whole thread is 'post your mashiest unit' but when you start comparing units to each other you HAVE to take the points into consideration.

Claiming the blob is the be-all-and-end-all of CC effectiveness is just incorrect. They're a tarpit; it just so happens that you can give them power weapons so they do a little bit of return damage.

L. Wrex

**Chowderhead**

8 Bloodcrushers
1 with fury of Khorne
1 with instrument of Chaos
Win all. at somewhere around, say, 250 pts. with massive survivability.

**Mustela**

I think genestealers can take on pretty much an equal amount of points of anything. A super 50 man power blob with 5 commissars decked in power swords equals ~40 genestealers. Those guardsmen are dead. Same for termies, berserkers, blah blah. A lot is also dependant on who charges.

**shrike**

purplefood wrote:10 man unit of Vanguard with power swords and storm shields, and jump packs.
That's 30 attacks on charge with no armour saves and a 3++

Laughing God wrote:Good lord how much would that vanguard unit cost?!

That vanguard unit would cost 625 points- mine costs 750.

10 men- 10 meltabombs, 6 th, 6 ss, 4 pairs of LCs.

**Xyptc**

chowderhead13 wrote:8 Bloodcrushers
1 with fury of Khorne
1 with instrument of Chaos
Win all. at somewhere around, say, 250 pts. with massive survivability.

If by 250 you mean 400pts+-, then yes, 250pts with massive survivability :p

**Nulipuli2**

Chuck Norris is WS10 BS10 STR10 T10 Initiative10 Ld12 2++
and has 10 wounds

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and has a power weapon that ignores inv saves

**Melissia**

BloodThirSTAR wrote:You can field up to 8 Crushers per unit.

Eight crushers is worth around sixty boyz.

Which means multiple assault rules favor Orks, whee.

**Doctadeth**

215 point 5 man deathwing squad, kitted out with lightning claws for free. 5++ with a 2+, 4 attacks on the charge with rerolls to hit. Thats 20 power weapon attacks for a measly 215 points. Plus if you take Belial, deathwing are troops.
can deep strike via port or droppod.

**EmilCrane**

Doctadeth wrote:215 point 5 man deathwing squad, kitted out with lightning claws for free. 5++ with a 2+, 4 attacks on the charge with rerolls to hit. Thats 20 power weapon attacks for a measly 215 points. Plus if you take Belial, deathwing are troops.
can deep strike via port or droppod.

I'll one up ya there a little

Sword Brethren assault terminators same cost with lightning claws but they have furious charge giving them S5 I5 on the charge with 4 attacks re-rolling misses (if you have an empy's champion) and failed wounds

**BloodThirSTAR**

Melissia wrote:
BloodThirSTAR wrote:You can field up to 8 Crushers per unit.
Eight crushers is worth around sixty boyz.

Which means multiple assault rules favor Orks, whee.

Not really. By odds an equally costed unit of Crushers will run over boyz, especially if the Crushers charge.

**AlmightyWalrus**

Anybody mention Green Tide yet, or does Apoc not count?

**unite all action**

Nulipuli2 wrote:Chuck Norris is WS10 BS10 STR10 T10 Initiative10 Ld12 2++
and has 10 wounds

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and has a power weapon that ignores inv saves

I have seen him fight on TV

**Jaon**

10 Blood angel assault terminators. 7 with TH/SS and 3 with LC's, with an attached sanguinary priest in terminator armour and terminator chaplain with crozius and storm bolter.

Thats 21 re-roll to hit str 9 pw attacks on the charge to start off with. Then you have 12 reroll to hit and to wound str 5 power weapon attacks at ini 4 to back that up, plus the extras from the ICs. But then again thats with ICs isnt it.... ok rethink

5 Imperial fist assault terminators with TH/SS. Stubborn (lysander isnt in their unit, but hes there somewhere

) and all the other things assault terminators entail.

They are simply awesome in an LR, can beat anything in a fight, tough as nails, and look nice too

**Lonecoon**

Well the IG have the Ogryns which are... and... I'll show myself out.

**Luke_Prowler**

Well Ogryns are kinda scary on paper, considering they have a fair chance of beating a Warboss. But it takes up a lot of points in an army that's about taking things in bulk, does poorly in the Mech heavy meta game, and are a rather inflexible unit.