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purplefood wrote:It says "Some say he is Arha, the fabled father of the incubi"

Klawz wrote:

Brother Hestapheus wrote:Thank you for proving me right!

WE AREN'T! ALL WE PROVED WAS THAT ARHA IS THE FOUNDER OF THE INCUBI!!
GERGBRA!

Sorry, had to get that out of my system.

Slightly off topic and perhaps boring, but this reminds me of Mephiston in 2nd edition; lots of hints he was a vampire, and he had the exact same stat line and powers as a fantsy vampire. GW like to keep us guessing.

Really?


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Thats not boring you know

Considering that Mephiston now has many things in common with a Keeper of Secrets, I'd say it's a nice change from the "OMG< Mephistoon id VAMPIRE!!!11!!".

Yeah, I have the 2nd edition angels of death codex, and warhammer fantasy bestiary book from around the same time, exact same profile and transfix power. Sneaky space vampire!
Why do you say more in common with a KOS now Nurglitch?

They are both awesome?

I don't get why people are so adament he is NOT Arhra.

The entry hints at it. He doen't even remove his armor and it has an old style.. and hes better then all the other incubi..

Seems pretty likely to me.

Shaman wrote:I don't get why people are so adament he is NOT Arhra.

The entry hints at it. He doen't even remove his armor and it has an old style.. and hes better then all the other incubi..

Seems pretty likely to me.

No one is insisting that he definitely isn't Arha. They're only stating that we don't know for certain - which is completely correct.

Bet he is

Good for you.

Brother Hestapheus wrote:Bet he is

Is this really necessary. You seem to be missing out why forum threads are made. To debate. Not making dead end statements. Try adding some content to your posts.

I was just suggesting my somewhat unwanted opinion

Brother Hestapheus wrote:I was just suggesting my somewhat unwanted opinion

But you don't say

Bet he is

You explain why.

Come Again?

You suggested your opinion but did not explain why you have that Opinion; therefore you added nothing to the discussion other than upping your own post count.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

purplefood wrote:It says "Some say he is Arha, the fabled father of the incubi"

Klawz wrote:

Brother Hestapheus wrote:Thank you for proving me right!

WE AREN'T! ALL WE PROVED WAS THAT ARHA IS THE FOUNDER OF THE INCUBI!!
GERGBRA!

Sorry, had to get that out of my system.

I noticed you bolded the "fabled" part.
I think the term "fabled" isn't merely saying that Arhra might have founded the Incubi. But, more along the lines of he's an almost "fairytale hero" (to the DE) or held highly in sort of a god-like sense.

Pen≥Sword wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

purplefood wrote:It says "Some say he is Arha, the fabled father of the incubi"

Klawz wrote:

Brother Hestapheus wrote:Thank you for proving me right!

WE AREN'T! ALL WE PROVED WAS THAT ARHA IS THE FOUNDER OF THE INCUBI!!
GERGBRA!

Sorry, had to get that out of my system.

I noticed you bolded the "fabled" part.
I think the term "fabled" isn't merely saying that Arhra might have founded the Incubi. But, more along the lines of he's an almost "fairytale hero" (to the DE) or held highly in sort of a god-like sense.

Debatable. (Teehee)

Brother Hestapheus wrote:I was just suggesting my somewhat unwanted opinion

Your opinion is appreciated. When you provide something new to further an argument that backs it up or adds something new to it in general. Just stating your opinion with no concrete proof or source to back that up as truth leads to contentless posts that only benefit your post count. Which devalues it even more as an arbitrary value that has little real meaning. And it detracts from any meaningful discussion. Which is what the background/any forum is for.

Back to the subject, did Ahra found the Incubi AND the Striking Scorpions?

Arha founded the Incubi. He also founded the Striking Scorpions.
It is said that Drazhar is Arha. This may or may not be true as their is little evidence either way.
That is what i meant to say. I'm sorry if i got confused and said otherwise.

purplefood wrote:Arha founded the Incubi. He also may have founded the Striking Scorpions.
It is said that Drazhar is Arha. This may or may not be true as their is little evidence either way.
That is what i meant to say. I'm sorry if i got confused and said otherwise.

Your post. I fixt it.

So Karandras isn't a true phoenix lord?

Brother Hestapheus wrote:So Karandras isn't a true phoenix lord?

No, he was the First Apprentice. However, his exarch armour is so imbued with souls that he is basically the equivalent. Arha on the other hand appears to be a single soul, sustained the good ol' Dark Eldar way.


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That is assuming that Drazhar is the same person of course. If he isn't there is little to suggest Arha is actually still alive.

Yes and no. He wasn't the founder of the Striking Scorpions, but his Version of them, is drastically different from Arhra's that they could be seen as two different aspects

What?


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Are you saying there are 2 types of striking scorpions?

Brother Hestapheus wrote:What?


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Are you saying there are 2 types of striking scorpions?

No. Arha founded the striking scorpions we know operate on Eldar Craftworlds. However, he subsequently fell to darkness. After wrecking great ruin he fled/wandered off. Karandras, the first aprentice, kept the Striking Scorpions pure. Alledgedly, Arha went on to found the Incubi.

It's quite clearly stated in the Dark Eldar Codex that Arhra did found the Incubi, as has been shown previously.

As a side note, Arhra's Striking Scorpion's were probaly more bloodthristy, maniac killers, until Karandras took over, and calmed them down

statu wrote:It's quite clearly stated in the Dark Eldar Codex that Arhra did found the Incubi, as has been shown previously.

Objection!

Going by the exact RAW wording on the fluff Arha is never definitely shown to be the founder of the incubi.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

statu wrote:It's quite clearly stated in the Dark Eldar Codex that Arhra did found the Incubi, as has been shown previously.

Objection!

Going by the exact RAW wording on the fluff Arha is never definitely shown to be the founder of the incubi.

Objection!
It in fact says that he is fabled. I.E. famous.

Klawz wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

statu wrote:It's quite clearly stated in the Dark Eldar Codex that Arhra did found the Incubi, as has been shown previously.

Objection!

Going by the exact RAW wording on the fluff Arha is never definitely shown to be the founder of the incubi.

Objection!
It in fact says that he is fabled. I.E. famous.

King Arthur is the fabled warrior of England.