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Except if the host happens to leave a Halo: Reach game, in which case, the "leaderboard screen/starting game sequence" takes awhile to let you play again. That's one of my few issues with it...

I prefer Halo even though I have a PS3. COD is fun and all but it gets real old real quick and the stories to me are just kinda dull. Graphics sound and gameplay are great. But personally I'd take Killzone 2 (and hopefully 3) over any COD game anyday.

Reach has tons of campers too...


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battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Reach has tons of campers too...


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Especially in Infection. God that game mode made a terrible come back into Reach....

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Reach has tons of campers too...


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Every online game has campers.

Besides, complaints about campers are pathetic, just because someone doesn't keep movING ALL THE TIME OMG MOVE MOVE MOVE YOU WERE STILL FOR MORE THAN TWO SECONDS YOU CAMPING NOOB! doesn't mean that they are cheating or abusing the game.

Melissia wrote:Besides, complaints about campers are pathetic, just because someone doesn't keep movING ALL THE TIME OMG MOVE MOVE MOVE YOU WERE STILL FOR MORE THAN TWO SECONDS YOU CAMPING NOOB! doesn't mean that they are cheating or abusing the game.

Especially on objective based games (Like One Flag CTF, for instance).

What are they supposed to do? Send a postcard to the Flag asking if it's ok?

I will say one thing, the zombie maps have really improved over the two games and the Nazi Zombie story is almost followed as much as the main campaign story.


As far as realism goes, some games don't need it. Saints Row 2 is a bit better than Grand Theft Auto 4 in my opinion because it just seems to be more fun to play.

Infection is a bit easy for me so I usually play SWAT if I do play Reach at my friend's house.

As far as story goes, Black Ops tries to reach the level of a Tom Clancy novel(vindicted russian tries to get revenge and there's a load of conspiracy stuff) while Halo is a lot like a James Cameron movie.

Both are fun games, but I like Black Ops more than Halo because I can customize my weapons, face camo, perks, and overall appearance.

I like Halo Reach more than black ops even though I haven't actually seriously played it (not owning an xbox), simply because Halo Reach isn't a total sausage fest and I can have a female avatar.

Melissia wrote:I like Halo Reach more than black ops even though I haven't actually seriously played it (not owning an xbox), simply because Halo Reach isn't a total sausage fest and I can have a female avatar.

Which in turn leads to people (Read: 13 year olds) treating you better online, letting you have "their" weapons, and such.

Don't ask me how I know that.

Melissia wrote:I like Halo Reach more than black ops even though I haven't actually seriously played it (not owning an xbox), simply because Halo Reach isn't a total sausage fest and I can have a female avatar.

So you don't like sausage?


Also: Black Ops is set during the Cold War Era when women were not included in any form of combat roles, hell they were barely even pilots at that time. Just remember, Vietnam was between 1955 and 1975.

Saying you don't like black ops because of the fact that you can't have a female character is like saying you don't like Company of Heroes because WW2 didn't have 3D television.

However, I find the lack of black skinned avatars upsetting seeing as though it was one of the first wars with integrated combat units.

Know what, they really need to work on that, right now.

Yes, actually, that is a problem that I have with Company of Heroes (and WWII games in general), and part of the reason I prefer Dawn of War 2 as far as Essence Engine games go-- the presence of female characters is stronger in 40k games than in WWII games. Funny how that goes, given that 40k itself is a massive sausage fest. A pity the Imperial Guard campaign's hero is General Pornstache instead of the inquisitor, but at least they added another female hero for me to play aside from the farseer.

When I have choices between games in the same relative subgenre (fps war shooters, for example), a game letting me play a female avatar is better than a game that does not let me play one.

Melissia wrote:Yes, actually, that is a problem that I have with Company of Heroes, and part of the reason I prefer Dawn of War 2 as far as Essence Engine games go. A pity the Imperial Guard campaign's hero is General Pornstache instead of the inquisitor, but at least they added another female hero for me to play aside from the farseer.

Dawn of War 2 had an imperial guard campaign? I must be missing something here. Also the IG commander in the DoW campaign didn't have a mustache, in fact only the priest had any facial hair in that game.

Okay, in Dawn of War 3 they need more facial hair.

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Melissia wrote:Yes, actually, that is a problem that I have with Company of Heroes, and part of the reason I prefer Dawn of War 2 as far as Essence Engine games go. A pity the Imperial Guard campaign's hero is General Pornstache instead of the inquisitor, but at least they added another female hero for me to play aside from the farseer.

Dawn of War 2 had an imperial guard campaign? I must be missing something here. Also the IG commander in the DoW campaign didn't have a mustache, in fact only the priest had any facial hair in that game.

Yes.

Yes it does.


And yes... Lord General Castor does have a very... distinct mustache.

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Melissia wrote:I like Halo Reach more than black ops even though I haven't actually seriously played it (not owning an xbox), simply because Halo Reach isn't a total sausage fest and I can have a female avatar.

Also: Black Ops is set during the Cold War Era when women were not included in any form of combat roles, hell they were barely even pilots at that time. Just remember, Vietnam was between 1955 and 1975.

Saying you don't like black ops because of the fact that you can't have a female character is like saying you don't like Company of Heroes because WW2 didn't have 3D television.

However, I find the lack of black skinned avatars upsetting seeing as though it was one of the first wars with integrated combat units.

Know what, they really need to work on that, right now.

Women are still not technically allowed in combat roles.

The lack of black avatars shouldn't be surprising considering that in RL whites and hispanics make up the vast majority of the infantry and whites make up as much as 90-95% of special forces units.

Actually, I didn't even notice any blacks/hispanics in the Tet Offensive level(the first Vietnam level IIRC).

There sure were a lot of asians though for some reason.


@Melissia,

That's another reason for me to not play DoW2. They got the IG wrong.

halonachos wrote:Actually, I didn't even notice any blacks/hispanics in the Tet Offensive level(the first Vietnam level IIRC).

There sure were a lot of asians though for some reason.


@Melissia,

That's another reason for me to not play DoW2. They got the IG wrong.

lol, Retribution hasn't even gotten released and you're saying they have done it wrong?

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halonachos wrote:Actually, I didn't even notice any blacks/hispanics in the Tet Offensive level(the first Vietnam level IIRC).

There sure were a lot of asians though for some reason.


@Melissia,

That's another reason for me to not play DoW2. They got the IG wrong.

lol, Retribution hasn't even gotten released and you're saying they have done it wrong?

I didn't see any hoardes of guardsmen, I didn't see any Leman Russ's plowing down the enemy, no artillery groups, so yes they got the IG wrong.

I saw hordes of Guardsmen in Chaos Rising's campaign. Regardless, however, you don't know yet because you haven't actually played it. You'll get a chance if you have a DoW product on Steam come feb 8th.

Melissia wrote:I saw hordes of Guardsmen in Chaos Rising's campaign. Regardless, however, you don't know yet because you haven't actually played it. You'll get a chance if you have a DoW product on Steam come feb 8th.

Speaking of, Ineed to play DoWII in order to find out if they actually fixed my computer.....

Melissia wrote:I saw hordes of Guardsmen in Chaos Rising's campaign. Regardless, however, you don't know yet because you haven't actually played it. You'll get a chance if you have a DoW product on Steam come feb 8th.

They got them wrong in DoW 1 so I doubt they're going to get it right in DoW 2.

DoW 1= Guardsmen can't get grenades, all sentinels have lascannons, squads came in groups of 13, and an incredible lack of sniper rifle carrying units.

From what I saw in the videos, they got them wrong.

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Melissia wrote:I saw hordes of Guardsmen in Chaos Rising's campaign. Regardless, however, you don't know yet because you haven't actually played it. You'll get a chance if you have a DoW product on Steam come feb 8th.

They got them wrong in DoW 1 so I doubt they're going to get it right in DoW 2.

DoW 1= Guardsmen can't get grenades, all sentinels have lascannons, squads came in groups of 13, and an incredible lack of sniper rifle carrying units.

From what I saw in the videos, they got them wrong.

Are you sure you weren't just playing them wrong? I raped people with the Guard, once took on three people basically by myself with them (agains't two Tau and a Space Marine player)

You realize that DoW2 is dramatically different from DoW1?

DoW1 was basically a starcraft clone with a focus on capture point gameplay, while DoW2 focuses on tactical squad combat instead?

Not saying I can't play them, I do fancy building forward bases and putting 3 basilisks in the base so that I can put rounds into the enemy base. Techpriest rush is also another fun strategy.

I just found the lack of frag grenades and choices in vehicles incredibly upsetting. Armageddon pattern sentinels are fun until orks come along and you would rather have a Cadian, Mars, or Catachan pattern sentinel.

This was back in the previous codex when I started playing.


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Melissia wrote:You realize that DoW2 is dramatically different from DoW1?

DoW1 was basically a starcraft clone with a focus on capture point gameplay, while DoW2 focuses on tactical squad combat instead?

That's another thing IG, for the most part, are not 'tactical squads'. The IG are a blob of lasguns and tanks, they are the 'hammer of the emperor' afterall.

And they will be. They'll start out with decent sized squads, then you add various upgrades that further increaset he size until they become larger than the other factions' squads.

Alternatively you can just focus on vehicles instead, because you can get vehicles in tier one as Guard in retribution.

halonachos wrote:Not saying I can't play them, I do fancy building forward bases and putting 3 basilisks in the base so that I can put rounds into the enemy base. Techpriest rush is also another fun strategy.

I just found the lack of frag grenades and choices in vehicles incredibly upsetting. Armageddon pattern sentinels are fun until orks come along and you would rather have a Cadian, Mars, or Catachan pattern sentinel.

This was back in the previous codex when I started playing.

Every single army had that. Hell, Chaos Space Marines didn't even have their DreadNaughts......

I bet they won't have grenades though.

I saw sentinels and chimeras, but I wonder if Ogryns will have issues getting into the chimeras. If they don't I will continue to dislike DoW 2 and their lack of base building.

You'll probably hear Ogryns complaining if they're ordered into a transport.

halonachos wrote:I bet they won't have grenades though.

I saw sentinels and chimeras, but I wonder if Ogryns will have issues getting into the chimeras. If they don't I will continue to dislike DoW 2 and their lack of base building.

What?

Not enough, Ogryns need to have violent wretching after leaving the transport.

Also there had better be a level that is entirely made out of fething rivers.