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He's a poser who heads out with a full camera crew on his "dropped alone in the wilderness" trips. The biggest example I can think of is the episode where he went into Alaska (I think?) and while sliding down a slippery slope, the camera followed behind, held steady and on subject by an experienced hand. If you want the real deal, watch "Survivorman". That guy just drops into the wilderness with nothing more than a camera.

EDIT:
Whoops named the wrong show.

You just got that backwards I think....

Bear Grylls is from Man vs. Wild.

The Bringer wrote:You just got that backwards I think....

Bear Grylls is from Man vs. Wild.

rubiksnoob wrote:What's with the hating on Bear?

Yeah, it's faked. So what? He's still cooler than all you guys.

Whatever Grylls may be, he certainly isn't cool. He humiliates himself for money. That's basically about as not cool as you can get.

Dammit, I meant "Survivorman". I switched the names in my head.

sebster wrote:

rubiksnoob wrote:What's with the hating on Bear?

Yeah, it's faked. So what? He's still cooler than all you guys.

Whatever Grylls may be, he certainly isn't cool. He humiliates himself for money. That's basically about as not cool as you can get.

No I will disagree with you there. Making an ass of yourself or faking something for cash doesnt make you uncool. Infact it makes you a badass rich man with a Scrooge McDuck bank full of money. It might make you shallow, but not uncool. Hell Id sell out for a gak load of money
*warning, the S word is in this one*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km0_vOE_2XE&feature=player_embedded

KingCracker wrote:No I will disagree with you there. Making an ass of yourself or faking something for cash doesnt make you uncool. Infact it makes you a badass rich man with a Scrooge McDuck bank full of money. It might make you shallow, but not uncool. Hell Id sell out for a gak load of money

No, it makes you not cool. Seriously, the guy is no doubt loaded, but he is and always will be the guy who ate bugs and drank his own wee for money. You can't do that and still be cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km0_vOE_2XE

At work so I can't see the video...

sebster wrote:

KingCracker wrote:No I will disagree with you there. Making an ass of yourself or faking something for cash doesnt make you uncool. Infact it makes you a badass rich man with a Scrooge McDuck bank full of money. It might make you shallow, but not uncool. Hell Id sell out for a gak load of money

No, it makes you not cool. Seriously, the guy is no doubt loaded, but he is and always will be the guy who ate bugs and drank his own wee for money. You can't do that and still be cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km0_vOE_2XE

At work so I can't see the video...

I just cant get it to work! *sobs*
ok Ill quote it, frmo SpaceBalls

Lonestar: We're not just doing it for the money...............We're doing it for a GAK load of money!


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Also, say what you want, he drank his pee, something any of us could have done, and made a gak load of money. Trust me, hes a cool guy

sebster wrote:

KingCracker wrote:No I will disagree with you there. Making an ass of yourself or faking something for cash doesnt make you uncool. Infact it makes you a badass rich man with a Scrooge McDuck bank full of money. It might make you shallow, but not uncool. Hell Id sell out for a gak load of money

No, it makes you not cool. Seriously, the guy is no doubt loaded, but he is and always will be the guy who ate bugs and drank his own wee for money. You can't do that and still be cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km0_vOE_2XE

At work so I can't see the video...

The word cool is not cool. "Duh."

So its like Punk then right?

KingCracker wrote:Also, say what you want, he drank his pee, something any of us could have done, and made a gak load of money. Trust me, hes a cool guy

Debasing yourself is not cool, no matter how profitable it is. It can be a decision you admire or even one you'd look to emulate, but it isn't cool.


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whatwhat wrote:The word cool is not cool. "Duh."

And irony is neither cool nor ironic.

Sure sure, your just jaded because you didnt think of doing something that stupid and actually getting paid for it.

sebster wrote:

whatwhat wrote:The word cool is not cool. "Duh."

And irony is neither cool nor ironic.

Saying the word cool without a sense of irony is uncool.

KingCracker wrote:Sure sure, your just jaded because you didnt think of doing something that stupid and actually getting paid for it.

I didn't say I wouldn't do it. I'm not cool as it is, why not be rich and not cool?

But that doesn't make him cool


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whatwhat wrote:Saying the word cool without a sense of irony is uncool.

Defining what is cool isn't cool. Unless it's done with irony, then it's cool. Unless you then have to explain that it was done with irony, because that'd make it not cool. Unless that explanation was also ironic, then it'd be cool again.

sebster wrote:

whatwhat wrote:Saying the word cool without a sense of irony is uncool.

Defining what is cool isn't cool. Unless it's done with irony, then it's cool. Unless you then have to explain that it was done with irony, because that'd make it not cool. Unless that explanation was also ironic, then it'd be cool again.

I'm cool with that.

So wait, you dont think its even slightly cool, to make millions for eatting a bug or drinking piss? What better, more effective way is there to "stick it to the man" to get loaded from something so stupid?!?!?

The thing is when you are talking to Sebster about Bear Grylls you have to realise that Sebster is Australian. And compared to the Australian survivormen Steve Irwin and Crocodile Dundee, Bear Grylls looks like a wuss. In Australia you are nowhere until you have dry humped a crocodile.

Oh I didnt even think about that.

Is it sad that their countries heroes are Paul Hogan and Steve Irwin?

Not now that they have conveniently given up trying to claim Mel Gibson as one of their own. Now they appreciate them whole heartedly.

Does this entire conversation mean that if I piss in a cup and drink it, then I'll become a bad-ass and make gak loads of dough?

KingCracker wrote:So wait, you dont think its even slightly cool, to make millions for eatting a bug or drinking piss? What better, more effective way is there to "stick it to the man" to get loaded from something so stupid?!?!?

Probably something involving retaining human dignity.


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whatwhat wrote:The thing is when you are talking to Sebster about Bear Grylls you have to realise that Sebster is Australian. And compared to the Australian survivormen Steve Irwin and Crocodile Dundee, Bear Grylls looks like a wuss. In Australia you are nowhere until you have dry humped a crocodile.

Paul Hogan moved to the US, got loads of plastic surgery and then wracked up a huge tax debt that it looks like he's going to avoid having to pay. We kind of like him for the last bit, but the first two are unforgiveable.

Steve Irwin is basically a US phenomenon. Most people in Australia had never heard of him until his show became this huge US hit.


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KingCracker wrote:Oh I didnt even think about that.

Is it sad that their countries heroes are Paul Hogan and Steve Irwin?

This man is our national hero

sebster wrote:

whatwhat wrote:The thing is when you are talking to Sebster about Bear Grylls you have to realise that Sebster is Australian. And compared to the Australian survivormen Steve Irwin and Crocodile Dundee, Bear Grylls looks like a wuss. In Australia you are nowhere until you have dry humped a crocodile.

Paul Hogan moved to the US, got loads of plastic surgery and then wracked up a huge tax debt that it looks like he's going to avoid having to pay. We kind of like him for the last bit, but the first two are unforgiveable.

Steve Irwin is basically a US phenomenon. Most people in Australia had never heard of him until his show became this huge US hit.

Yeh...I was taking the piss. Not, I must add, pissing in a cup and drinking it. That would not be cool. It would however make me a gak load of money, so I hear.

whatwhat wrote:Yeh...I was taking the piss. Not, I must add, pissing in a cup and drinking it. That would not be cool. It would however make me a gak load of money, so I hear.

I knew you were joking, by the way. I just wanted to point out what's become of Paul Hogan.

Well thank you. Who is the skater in the picture? Out of interest.

well i now know how to get water from poo.

It's a small pic, but isn't that Apollo Ohno?

whatwhat wrote:Well thank you. Who is the skater in the picture? Out of interest.

Steven Bradbury, Australia's first Winter Olympics gold medallist. Which is pretty impressive and worthy by itself when you consider that Australia is a really hot and flat place, so there's really no snow at all.

But he becomes completely awesome when you realise that he won because everyone else fell over. Seriously, he was coming dead last in the speed skating but then everyone else fell over, and that shot is him sailing past realising he's just won Gold because everyone else is lying on the ground.

KingCracker wrote:Sure sure, your just jaded because you didnt think of doing something that stupid and actually getting paid for it.

Yes Gryll's has admitted that he faked many parts in the series "Man Vs. Wild" but you cannot ignore that he has done some pretty heavy stuff (SAS experience etc and if your in that deep i think he can survive for himself, he just takes the easier more 'thrilling' option and in return big $$) - if you actually are interested in watching some legit gak from Grylls watch his earlier episodes or from his other programs, my personal favourite is "Escape to the Legion" i enjoyed that doco and you can watch it all on youtube.

tl;dr - you shouldn't discredit someone from a perspective of 1 tv show.

you shouldn't discredit someone from a perspective of 1 tv show.

Why not? He willingly misled the public through several series of the TV Show, and didn't admit it until it was made public. It doesn't matter if it's 1 show or 100 shows, he has irreparably tarnished his own reputation by agreeing to and participating in faked shows that were relayed as truth.

I don't care if he's done any more 'amazing' stuff, because I have to be told by other sources that it is truth before I believe it. I should be able to watch the programme and think "Wow, he did that?" not "Huh, can't be too hard to fake that." but he broke that level of trust between himself and his viewers.

Take a football match, if someone deliberately goes in hard on a guy and breaks his leg, then the tackler will forever have that hung over him, and nothing he can do will remove that stain from his reputation; even if it was only 1 game.

tl;dr Doesn't matter how many shows he did it in, the fact is that he deliberately did it.