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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/11 20:15:25
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
Leicester uk
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Bit pricey. Maybe if it was a complete kit, so not for me. However it looks nice looking forward to future releases. Perhaps something based on a rhino kit?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/11 21:10:32
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Looks tasty.
Shame about the price. Perhaps consider a reduction. The response here has been great, bar to the price. I don't even play guard, but I'd be tempted to buy one just to paint it up all nice and purty.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/11 21:22:41
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
Leicester uk
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Yeah might think about it if shipping was thrown in.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/11 21:42:44
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That Transformer looking thing does look weird, but if I think about a cross between a classic Dreadnought and a Titan, then it seems about right...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/11 21:51:37
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
Leicester uk
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d-usa wrote:That Transformer looking thing does look weird, but if I think about a cross between a classic Dreadnought and a Titan, then it seems about right...
You in the right thread?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/11 22:06:44
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Scottywan82 wrote:Is there a reason we're being dicks to this guy? Because it seems like - if you don't like his stuff - you could just not buy it.
What!?!?!/11!?!
THIS IS THE INTERNET!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/11 22:17:31
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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johnstewartjohn wrote:d-usa wrote:That Transformer looking thing does look weird, but if I think about a cross between a classic Dreadnought and a Titan, then it seems about right...
You in the right thread?
No, no I'm not
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/11 22:20:31
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
Leicester uk
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d-usa wrote:johnstewartjohn wrote:d-usa wrote:That Transformer looking thing does look weird, but if I think about a cross between a classic Dreadnought and a Titan, then it seems about right...
You in the right thread?
No, no I'm not
How did that happen? a site glitch?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/12 09:39:27
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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Bryan Ansell
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Still cannot see jack all of this kit/kits. keep getting a problem loading page error, so, I'll pass.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/12 09:57:27
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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[MOD]
Madrak Ironhide
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johnstewartjohn wrote:d-usa wrote:johnstewartjohn wrote:d-usa wrote:That Transformer looking thing does look weird, but if I think about a cross between a classic Dreadnought and a Titan, then it seems about right...
You in the right thread?
No, no I'm not
How did that happen? a site glitch?
Probably tabbed viewing, multiple windows, reading one thread and posting in the other, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/12 10:12:22
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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Infiltrating Oniwaban
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Hmmm. You know, if you sold off your Chimera bitz that this kit replaces, it wouldn't be nearly as hard on the pocketbook.
And anything that takes care of the stupid lasgun ports is a good thing.
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Infinity: Way, way better than 40K and more affordable to boot!
"If you gather 250 consecutive issues of White Dwarf, and burn them atop a pyre of Citadel spray guns, legend has it Gwar will appear and answer a single rules-related question. " -Ouze |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/12 15:04:01
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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Violent Enforcer
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Really nice conversion kit, especially for IG players that want the russian/chinese look - including lasguns with curved mags.
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And please: everybody stop whining about price (on this and almost every other thread). It is just silly.
Face it, this is not (and has never been) a cheap hobby - especially if your'e into making a themed army with resin parts.
Of course you can make your own Chimeras out of WW2 kits, plasticard, cardboard boxes or clay. They will probably be cheap(er) - and look equally cheap.
That has nothing whatsoever to do with resin kits and thus should, IMHO, not be voiced in those threads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/12 15:18:29
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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Lord of the Fleet
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Barrel looks kinda funny
I think it has to do with the red paint on it though. Whole design roundish though, fine for a different chimera variant (now if only people allowed my armies of autocannon chimeras!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/12 15:42:53
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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Calculating Commissar
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Scottywan82 wrote:Is there a reason we're being dicks to this guy? Because it seems like - if you don't like his stuff - you could just not buy it.
Why should we hold his hand and falsely play nice? If he can't take criticism, he has no business trying to do proper business and the sooner he realizes this, the better. Coddling him would serve no purpose. kendoka wrote:Of course you can make your own Chimeras out of WW2 kits, plasticard, cardboard boxes or clay. They will probably be cheap(er) - and look equally cheap.
Oh, please. Don't treat this guy like some kind of a resin wizard. Replicating his level of sculpting with the materials you mention would be both less expensive and look better.
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The supply does not get to make the demands. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/12 15:58:38
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Posts with Authority
South Carolina (upstate) USA
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Kanluwen wrote:
There's a difference in what Verlinden does versus Chapterhouse.
The difference?
The companies that produce the product that Verlinden is 'supplementing' didn't actually create (or in many cases, license) the design for the item they're producing.
There was an interesting article in a Fine Scale Modeler last year about the "Rise of licensing" in the automobile/armor modeling field after Chrysler/Dodge supposedly put the kibosh on a model kit, being produced without license, of a Jeep Wrangler.
Hmmm an excellent and possibly winning point. The part that really sucks is if GW wins that the hobbyists lose most of all.
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Whats my game?
Warmachine (Cygnar)
10/15mm mecha
Song of Blades & Heroes
Blackwater Gulch
X wing
Open to other games too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/12 17:32:02
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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Fixture of Dakka
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At risk of taking things a little off topic, there is a really interesting comparison between markets with zero copyright/licensing to be made between the model market and fashion industry. There was a really fascinating discussion of such on EconTalk a few months back, and apparently in fashion anyone can copy your stuff, and the designers/labels deal with it by constantly innovating and doing top notch work. So LV might have its handbags knocked off, but consumers generally know the difference (due to materials and things like stitching) and those who cared in the first place don't buy knock offs while those who don't care wouldn't have paid 400$ for a purse anyway.
I sometimes wonder if the IP question between modeling companies is not in fact more of a molehill, considering how many make generic "Wizard" or "Knight" type models (Reaper etc.) and do very well based just on sculpt quality, not the fact the manufacturer is relevant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/12 19:57:17
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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Could anyone post a picture?
The website seems down.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 10:23:39
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Ok,the Hedgehog AA Gun here and ready for factory. All C&C is welcome =]
General preview
The radar cover can be moved
And, shall I put the hatch in the top of turret ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 11:41:57
Subject: Ratgard- Hedgehog AA Gun preview in the Page 3
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I wouldn't think you'd need a hatch. It looks automated. Is anyone actually IN the turret? Also, can we see it with guns on both sides?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 14:24:30
Subject: Ratgard- Hedgehog AA Gun preview in the Page 3
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Otiose in a Niche
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Looks good, I assume both sides will have the long guns?
Scottywan82 wrote:I wouldn't think you'd need a hatch. It looks automated. Is anyone actually IN the turret? Also, can we see it with guns on both sides?
Could be a maintinance hatch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 15:01:53
Subject: Ratgard- Hedgehog AA Gun preview in the Page 3
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Touche.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 16:07:26
Subject: Re:Ratgard- Hedgehog AA Gun preview in the Page 3
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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I like your detail and the removable forward radar cover. It reminds me of a Gepard 35mm SP AA Gun turret. I like your answer on how to angle the guns, with the peg&hole, those barrels will never start pointing down... not sure about that top hatch unless its more flush... and maybe tilt the forward dish up a little... and the Chimera kit looks great, very BWP looking... but i already have 7 assembled chimeras... whats the pricing gonna be like for that AckAck gun?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 16:33:35
Subject: Re:Ratgard- Hedgehog AA Gun preview in the Page 3
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Kid_Kyoto & Scottywan82 : Yes, both sides will be the long barrels, but I dont have enough link bits now so I can not show you
jep'ray: I decided to add the hatch. The Chimera kit is just for show, I dont want take too much trouble. The final price still not confirmed, which price will you accepted?
And..你好,A叔
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 18:48:58
Subject: Ratgard- Hedgehog AA Gun preview in the Page 3
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Mighty Chosen Warrior of Chaos
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I really like that turret. For the hatch I agree that it should either be more flush, or have vision blocks. If you do put vision blocks in then may I suggest that you add semi circle cylinders to each side of the turret, with a smaller diameter than the turret ring. That would give the turret a bit more character, and less box-like.
I look forward to seeing a complete version.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 19:07:18
Subject: Ratgard- Hedgehog AA Gun preview in the Page 3
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Love the AA turret. My only concern is the radar cover, which for my taste adds too much forward visual bulk to the turret. But for those who feel that way, it can simply be left off, of course
And I like the hatch idea, although maybe a rectangular hatch would better suit the location?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 20:43:10
Subject: Ratgard- Hedgehog AA Gun preview in the Page 3
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Bryan Ansell
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I can finally see pictures. That AA mount isn't half bad.
Sure I could knock up a Hydra turret out of bits and plasticard, but it wouldn't be as neat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/14 07:23:54
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Maybe they're just being proactive and saving up for good legal counsel ahead of time?
Ok, ok. I'll stop...
Looks like the poster is based in China. Good luck trying to enforce IP issues GW.
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Comparing tournament records is another form of e-peen measuring.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/14 17:25:44
Subject: Re:Ratgard- Hedgehog AA Gun preview in the Page 3
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Whiteshield Conscript Trooper
Havirov, Czech republic
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Those sideskirts look a little bit different than on usual chimera chasis, is that your own conversion or these can be got somewhere, please?
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Mercenaries never die, they just go to hell to regroup. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/15 00:29:30
Subject: Ratgard- Hedgehog AA Gun preview in the Page 3
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Thank you all posts =)
EvilHamster : Yes, the sideskirts is my own conversion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/15 07:01:17
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera with platoon bundle discount
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Scottywan82 wrote:Is there a reason we're being dicks to this guy? Because it seems like - if you don't like his stuff - you could just not buy it.
If every release was met with mindless fawning, how much would our opinion really be worth? Not all releases are created equal. By posting this in this section, he opened himself up to both compliments and criticism. Making the (wholly accurate) observation that the kit is overpriced is hardly "being dicks", IMO.
So far as the newest one: I like it, presuming the guns will be long on both sides (right?). I especially like the bracket that holds the guns together, though I think I might like it even better if it were a 3 barrelled variant. The skirts are very nice, as well. What's the proposed pricing? Automatically Appended Next Post: thehod wrote:H.B.M.C. wrote:Maybe they're just being proactive and saving up for good legal counsel ahead of time?
Ok, ok. I'll stop...
Looks like the poster is based in China. Good luck trying to enforce IP issues GW.
Perhaps we can start a new thread in Dakka Discussions about the IP considerations of third party products rather then pollute every. single. one of these announcements with them. Not pointing at your specifically, Jazz, just saying, it's gotta get tiresome for these guys. The IP issue is frankly not our problem unless they ask our opinion on it. GWS is a very large company and they have a very aggressive legal department and they don't really need (and certainly don't deserve) us white knighting for them on the internets.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
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