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NoseGoblin wrote:I think Harmony Gold and a few other company’s own rights to much of the Battletech line. You would need to pay a licensing fee to use these designs, if the holders were willing to sell the license.

Just to clarify Topps owns the rights to Battletech and licenses the rights to Catalyst Game Labs and Iron Wind Metals.

Harmony Gold was involved in the lawsuit with FASA Corporation over the Robotech `Mech designs but otherwise has no affiliation with the Battletech license.

chris_valera wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:

chris_valera wrote:I drop crazy money on this hobby, and I gotta say, I'm gonna take a pass on this.
I liked it better when it was a GW titan knock-off. Looking back GW was right to shut you guys down, and years later, this is what you came up with?
You'd have been better of making knock-off titan parts, like add-on arm-guns or heads, like all the eldar titan heads flooding ebay.
I respect the large spider walker robot you made back in the day, but this doesn't look like anything I'd wanna own.
--Chris

No reason to get rude and offensive.
And others will certainly take over buying this stuff like me.

It's not rude or offensive. It's my opinion. Yikes, this place hasn't changed at all since I left...

This is a marginal resin kit at best. Although I'll go to bat for them and say I don't think the price is over the top; in fact, it's very reasonably priced if you inclined to buy one.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

2 queries;
1) You do realize that an opinion can be rude and/or offensive, right? That these are not mutually exclusive states? Perhaps not...

2) Why did you go out of your way to link your website in your second post, when your website hasn't been updated in like 20 months?

Beyond that, it's simultaneously amusing and must be intensely frustrating to read a comment like the first one, but emblematic of a problem in "the hobby" as a whole: the incessant comparison to GW staples. What's amusing is that right now GW is clearly feeling it's litigation oats, as it were, so the notion that it behooves anyone to move into things that are expressly "a GW... knock-off" is somewhat mind boggling.

It's frustrating because at the same time that people seem to have this insatiable need for not-GW GW-style stuff, there are those of us that are sick of the whole aesthetic.

Personally, I find the work fantastic; with enough Grimdark to fit into many systems, but at the same time expressing (to me) far more elegant and "realistic" feel.

Sometimes it's better to keep your opinions to yourself

Not saying I am against freedom of speech, but it's just to protect yourself from your own stupidity

chris_valera wrote:It's not rude or offensive. It's my opinion.

I find the "Glad you went out of business" and "you were better when flooding ebay with illegal casts" part of your "opinion" rather rude and offensive.

Buzzsaw wrote:Beyond that, it's simultaneously amusing and must be intensely frustrating to read a comment like the first one, but emblematic of a problem in "the hobby" as a whole: the incessant comparison to GW staples. What's amusing is that right now GW is clearly feeling it's litigation oats, as it were, so the notion that it behooves anyone to move into things that are expressly "a GW... knock-off" is somewhat mind boggling.

It's frustrating because at the same time that people seem to have this insatiable need for not-GW GW-style stuff, there are those of us that are sick of the whole aesthetic.

Personally, I find the work fantastic; with enough Grimdark to fit into many systems, but at the same time expressing (to me) far more elegant and "realistic" feel.

I agree with this...

I am more a modeller and hobbyist than a gamer...

I would love to paint a few of these for the simple enjoyment of what these fantastic sculpts could offer in terms of size and dimensions.

Not everything needs to relate back to GW or a game system. Though, when you think about it, if you cannot walk outside or look at something and NOT relate it to GW or similar, you may have a problem.

devilution wrote:Sometimes it's better to keep your opinions to yourself

Not saying I am against freedom of speech, but it's just to protect yourself from your own stupidity

I thought he did a good job. 8/10 on the troll scale. Ive seen better, but not many.


I did find his need for things to be GW compatible pretty sad though...shame so many people see GW as the end all be all of gaming.

I MAY sit this one out

I like the look of the Azazel better , although I may buy a crusader

Retrias wrote:I MAY sit this one out

I like the look of the Azazel better , although I may buy a crusader

I dont like the Mortis much at all. The body is good, though I do like the heavier armored versions better. Its just the head that turns me off.


However, I will be ordering a Crusader, waiting anxiously for preorders...possibly some of the others as well if finances allow.


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AvatarForm wrote:

Not everything needs to relate back to GW or a game system. Though, when you think about it, if you cannot walk outside or look at something and NOT relate it to GW or similar, you may have a problem.

Im sigging this, I couldnt have said it better myself.

chris_valera wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:

chris_valera wrote:I drop crazy money on this hobby, and I gotta say, I'm gonna take a pass on this.
I liked it better when it was a GW titan knock-off. Looking back GW was right to shut you guys down, and years later, this is what you came up with?
You'd have been better of making knock-off titan parts, like add-on arm-guns or heads, like all the eldar titan heads flooding ebay.
I respect the large spider walker robot you made back in the day, but this doesn't look like anything I'd wanna own.
--Chris

No reason to get rude and offensive.
And others will certainly take over buying this stuff like me.

It's not rude or offensive. It's my opinion. Yikes, this place hasn't changed at all since I left...

This is a marginal resin kit at best. Although I'll go to bat for them and say I don't think the price is over the top; in fact, it's very reasonably priced if you inclined to buy one.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

No it is rude and offensive. Its one thing to say you want to take a pass on something, its another to accuse someone of crap work ("Looking back GW was right to shut you guys down, and years later, this is what you came up with?"). Go to charm school and get some class.

I just got off the phone with my contract caster, they are finishing the molds and expect to be done Friday the 25th and shipping the first articles to me on Monday. Add 3-4 days shipping time and mid/late next week I will have them in hand and post pics.

The up side, according to the owner, is that mold maker is enamored with the kit and is making some of the best mold work he has seen to date. Fingers crossed they should be some excellent castings! That was music to my ears... I am very happy that the extra time is well spent. I would rather it be slightly delayed than get back crap castings.

I just wanted to say thanks to all of you for chiming in on recent comments; I try not to be bogged down with non-constructive comments and exchanges that serve no purpose other than to enflame.

NoseGoblin wrote:I just got off the phone with my contract caster, they are finishing the molds and expect to be done Friday the 25th and shipping the first articles to me on Monday. Add 3-4 days shipping time and mid/late next week I will have them in hand and post pics.

The up side, according to the owner, is that mold maker is enamored with the kit and is making some of the best mold work he has seen to date. Fingers crossed they should be some excellent castings! That was music to my ears... I am very happy that the extra time is well spent. I would rather it be slightly delayed than get back crap castings.

I just wanted to say thanks to all of you for chiming in on recent comments; I try not to be bogged down with non-constructive comments and exchanges that serve no purpose other than to enflame.

LOL another good and bad update. More waiting is booooo, great casts are

Mad4Minis wrote:

NoseGoblin wrote:I just got off the phone with my contract caster, they are finishing the molds and expect to be done Friday the 25th and shipping the first articles to me on Monday. Add 3-4 days shipping time and mid/late next week I will have them in hand and post pics.

The up side, according to the owner, is that mold maker is enamored with the kit and is making some of the best mold work he has seen to date. Fingers crossed they should be some excellent castings! That was music to my ears... I am very happy that the extra time is well spent. I would rather it be slightly delayed than get back crap castings.

I just wanted to say thanks to all of you for chiming in on recent comments; I try not to be bogged down with non-constructive comments and exchanges that serve no purpose other than to enflame.

LOL another good and bad update. More waiting is booooo, great casts are

Lol.. seems to be the way it goes, good and bad news.
Just to set the expectation correctly, I will likely not be posting pics and opening pre-orders until April 4th, give or take a day. I have A LOT to do in between and even that date may change if there are issues with the castings. I know your chomping at the bit to finally get going but I need to make sure the horse is hitched to the cart before it starts running.

So long as the bad news doesn't put you in the negative, and the good news helps out, I'd take that for what it's worth! I'll be excited to see these alongside many Grey Knight armies, as well as others. I have been excited about this release, and I hope I'll be able to afford this given the recent GK pre-order that I've placed.

Good luck NoseGoblin!

Lord_Astaroth wrote:So long as the bad news doesn't put you in the negative, and the good news helps out, I'd take that for what it's worth! I'll be excited to see these alongside many Grey Knight armies, as well as others. I have been excited about this release, and I hope I'll be able to afford this given the recent GK pre-order that I've placed.

Good luck NoseGoblin!

Im not going to be doing a GK army, but Im planning to get a box of GKT for some mild conversions, and ive already been thinking they will look great standing at the feet of a Crusader. Which will likely be standing in my display case next to the 28mm Battletech Atlas. I would put the Madcat on the same shelf, butt hey are glass and only hold 13 lbs...those 3 big boys might push that limit all together.


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NoseGoblin wrote:

Lol.. seems to be the way it goes, good and bad news.
Just to set the expectation correctly, I will likely not be posting pics and opening pre-orders until April 4th, give or take a day. I have A LOT to do in between and even that date may change if there are issues with the castings. I know your chomping at the bit to finally get going but I need to make sure the horse is hitched to the cart before it starts running.

Please dont take it as complaining...its just barely contained excitement. Its been a long time since anything has blown me away like this thing does. From what you say the actual model should live up to or maybe even exceed the renders. The biggest challenge will be coming up with a paint scheme and executing it well enough to do the thing justice.

chris_valera wrote:
It's not rude or offensive. It's my opinion. Yikes, this place hasn't changed at all since I left...

This is a marginal resin kit at best. Although I'll go to bat for them and say I don't think the price is over the top; in fact, it's very reasonably priced if you inclined to buy one.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

Yes, it hasn't changed at all- we still do not like condescending, uninformed remarks. And you will still get flack for them even if you add "IMO" or "just kidding" to them.

Constructive criticism is one thing, your comments are another.

As to *mediocre*, the design is quite well done and we will have to see on quality. But, given Forgeworld's production on its large kits, I find it hard to believe it could be much worse and the price is certainly much better.

Would it be possible to post a pic with a size comparison to, say a dread or a warhound?

The pics look awesome by the way. I would definately get one for my IW army.

So, like, say someone wanted to count your mortis as a chaos warhound... Are they're at least similar in height ... does it have guns available at all, or just the scythe & claw arms? If so, will the guns look similar enough to GW's versions to count as something believable?

jmurph wrote:
As to *mediocre*, the design is quite well done and we will have to see on quality. But, given Forgeworld's production on its large kits, I find it hard to believe it could be much worse and the price is certainly much better.

He's right, I'd rather have a $500 titan made from 12 huge, poorly made peices than a couple hundred part, more detailed kit for half the price.

I just like throwing money at GW so they can open more poorly managed stores!

It will have a Gun of some sort(Assault cannon look alike) and someone already put in the size comparison(they said it's a couple inch off), It's on few pages back

Just caught that, went back and reread some stuff.. guess the weapons are all interchangable .. I like the idea of an assault titan but it would prolly just get blown to bitz before it got close enough to anything though :(

At one point I was considering a reaver with claws, but I don't want to blow $800 on one model that I will prolly never ever play with anyway. So the mortis is looking more like something I'd get, never was a big fan of the warhound model.

Yeah, this is a nice replacement to the warhound model
Assault Titan may work if your opponet were fielding no anti titan weaponry , except another titan , but yeah

Damn, this just makes me wish I was independently wealthy.

How woudl an assult Warhound work? They dont have access to any titan CCWs do they?

I dunno, but then it's apocalypse anyway so anything goes, you can just make up your own datasheet if ya want. I think I was thinking of the claws on the reaver though. Still, the idea of ginormous robots punching each other sounds fun

what's the story on foreign shipping? can you split parcels?

lostlegiongames&comics wrote:So if a store wanted to carry these... ?

The margin may not be there to make this viable... at least not on these, perhaps other kits? I am open to discussion but I need to at least pay off the initial production costs before it becomes an option.

Praxiss wrote:Would it be possible to post a pic with a size comparison to, say a dread or a warhound?

Sorry, I don't own any GW kits. In a month or two I'm sure someone will post a pic of one next to a GW kit.

Phayse wrote:what's the story on foreign shipping? can you split parcels?

The least expensive option is USPS, I'm not sure how splitting parcels will help? the shipping costs just go up if its split.

NoseGoblin wrote:

Phayse wrote:what's the story on foreign shipping? can you split parcels?

The least expensive option is USPS, I'm not sure how splitting parcels will help? the shipping costs just go up if its split.

Just thinking of my customs payments I don't import a lot of stuff, so I'm not totally up to speed.

I may just be talking out of my ass.

So I'm definitely looking really hard at the Crusader. The big sell for me, however, would be more weapon options and the capacitor coolers (especially these) to replace the oil stacks. How far down the line will it be before we see these? I'd love to buy the Crusader, but I'd really like those capacitor coolers on his back.

That, of course, doesn't mean I'm above buying the model now and waiting a few months to add all of the bits!

Phayse wrote:

NoseGoblin wrote:

Phayse wrote:what's the story on foreign shipping? can you split parcels?

The least expensive option is USPS, I'm not sure how splitting parcels will help? the shipping costs just go up if its split.

Just thinking of my customs payments I don't import a lot of stuff, so I'm not totally up to speed.

I may just be talking out of my ass.

No your not customs like large box's. I've found that anything in a large size box gets stopped at customs while smaller packages sail through with no problems.

Although that could just be my bad luck.

I am not keen on the arms, the sword looks too flimsy, the gun is kinda meh, but the head on the mortis. It's like it wants to be used in a chaos army as a dark machanius titan