Pre-Orders for the Leviathan Crusader and Mortis, soon!

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**Mad4Minis**

NoseGoblin wrote:

I will likely not be posting pics and opening pre-orders until April 4th, give or take a day. I have A LOT to do in between and even that date may change if there are issues with the castings.

Any word from the caster yet? Have the samples shipped?

**inqscott**

Nosegoblin continue on with your dream I will most certainly get one or two. I been in this hobby since 89. And there is room for beautiful non gw models in the hobby. Good Luck

**Necros**

Yeah I'd love an ETA also

I'm thinking of getting the mortis, is it possible to order it with your vulcan cannon instead of the usual right arm? Will you have a left arm vulcan cannon too?

Or will the arms be easy to magnetize so I could have the claw or the cannon?

**Mad4Minis**

Necros wrote:

Or will the arms be easy to magnetize so I could have the claw or the cannon?

Im pretty sure he has a pdf for the assembly instructions posted somewhere, maybe on his blog. That should give you an idea of how/where it can be magnetized.

**GiraffeX**

In regards to Phayse's question about customs charges to the UK if the contents of the order are over £18 then there will be additional charges, on top of the customs charge (VAT) there is also a holding fee by Royal Mail of £8.

Yep I've just been unlucky again.

**Mad4Minis**

Im going to take the lack of word from NoseGoblin as a good sign. He stated on the DreamForge forums that the days before the pre-order opening would be very busy.

**NoseGoblin**

Mad4Minis wrote:Im going to take the lack of word from NoseGoblin as a good sign. He stated on the DreamForge forums that the days before the pre-order opening would be very busy.

More bad news I'm afraid. 90% of the castings were good bit the main body sections had some issues. I am trying to work out this problem now but I don’t have a firm date yet on when he will get me the updated parts. Likely another week?

Sorry for the bad news......lord knows I'm not happy about it.

I will let you know when I have some definitive answers.

**inqscott**

It is what it is,carry on the machine god waits

**Mad4Minis**

NoseGoblin wrote:
Mad4Minis wrote:Im going to take the lack of word from NoseGoblin as a good sign. He stated on the DreamForge forums that the days before the pre-order opening would be very busy.

More bad news I'm afraid. 90% of the castings were good bit the main body sections had some issues. I am trying to work out this problem now but I don’t have a firm date yet on when he will get me the updated parts. Likely another week?

Sorry for the bad news......lord knows I'm not happy about it.

I will let you know when I have some definitive answers.

Any chance of seeing some pics of the parts in question?

Is it something that just needs a recast, or a modification to the mold?

What are the chances of the caster not being able or willing to correct the issue and causing the need to find another caster?

Basically is it something that can, and will, be corrected quickly or can we expect a significant wait?

Sorry to ask so many questions but I get kinda iffy on small companies and repeated delays. For instance, back in Nov 2010 I emailed Khurasan about a model that was listed on their website as being in the casting stage, and they said available by the end of december. I emailed them a couple more times in Jan and Feb...both times got told by the end of the month. Its now April and still listed as in the casting stage. Needless to say ive written it off as never going to happen.

I really want a Crusader, Ive been watching it since I saw it on miniaturereview.com last year, but at the same time I dont want to sit on the money for 3 or 4 more months only to have it never actually hit production.

**NoseGoblin**

Mad4Minis wrote:
NoseGoblin wrote:
Mad4Minis wrote:Im going to take the lack of word from NoseGoblin as a good sign. He stated on the DreamForge forums that the days before the pre-order opening would be very busy.

More bad news I'm afraid. 90% of the castings were good bit the main body sections had some issues. I am trying to work out this problem now but I don’t have a firm date yet on when he will get me the updated parts. Likely another week?

Sorry for the bad news......lord knows I'm not happy about it.

I will let you know when I have some definitive answers.

Any chance of seeing some pics of the parts in question?

Is it something that just needs a recast, or a modification to the mold?

Keep in ind there are about 140 parts to the kit... all were good accept for four, unfortunately these four parts with problems were the main body shell so the issue would be immediately noticeable.

What are the chances of the caster not being able or willing to correct the issue and causing the need to find another caster?

Basically is it something that can, and will, be corrected quickly or can we expect a significant wait?

Sorry to ask so many questions but I get kinda iffy on small companies and repeated delays. For instance, back in Nov 2010 I emailed Khurasan about a model that was listed on their website as being in the casting stage, and they said available by the end of december. I emailed them a couple more times in Jan and Feb...both times got told by the end of the month. Its now April and still listed as in the casting stage. Needless to say ive written it off as never going to happen.

I really want a Crusader, Ive been watching it since I saw it on miniaturereview.com last year, but at the same time I dont want to sit on the money for 3 or 4 more months only to have it never actually hit production.

I hear you… I really do.... NO ONE is more frustrated about this than me. Likely it just needs to be re-cast with no mold reworking. He was getting mold separation in bad places, causing 1/8" thick flash at the mold parting line. UNACCEPTABLE! I called my caster went over the issues and explained that this was unacceptable. He talked with his mold guy on Monday and they seem to agree that it just needs more pressure on the mold. They need to recast the parts for my inspection.

I will not send something like that to my customers and expect them to fork out $300.00. I am sorry for the delay, but this is clearly not in my control... Will there be more delays? I hope not but I have no guarantees. If you feel you cannot wait until this has been resolved I completely understand. I refuse to sell something I would not be happy with and I will not rush a model to market simply to have my customers view my product with disappointment.

When I have some solid information (dates and such) from the caster I wil let you know.

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Keep in mind of the 140 parts only four had major issues.. Unfortunately these four parts were the main body section.

**Necros**

I'd rather wait for it to be perfect than get something Forge-World-ified with bad flash and casting defects all over the place.

Question though.. when it's released, will we be able to order it with the weapons we want? Like, I was hoping to get the Mortis, but with the vulcan cannon instead of the claw arm.

**ruyn**

Necros wrote:I'd rather wait for it to be perfect than get something Forge-World-ified with bad flash and casting defects all over the place.

Question though.. when it's released, will we be able to order it with the weapons we want? Like, I was hoping to get the Mortis, but with the vulcan cannon instead of the claw arm.

Agreed. Most of us are fairly patient folk and would much rather see a quality cast than a rushed production with flash everywhere. I'll definitely wait.
Also, after having seen the capacitor coolers designed to replace the oil stacks, I've got to ask when you have those planned for build/release.

**NoseGoblin**

Necros wrote:I'd rather wait for it to be perfect than get something Forge-World-ified with bad flash and casting defects all over the place.

Question though.. when it's released, will we be able to order it with the weapons we want? Like, I was hoping to get the Mortis, but with the vulcan cannon instead of the claw arm.

ruyn wrote:
Necros wrote:I'd rather wait for it to be perfect than get something Forge-World-ified with bad flash and casting defects all over the place.

Question though.. when it's released, will we be able to order it with the weapons we want? Like, I was hoping to get the Mortis, but with the vulcan cannon instead of the claw arm.

Agreed. Most of us are fairly patient folk and would much rather see a quality cast than a rushed production with flash everywhere. I'll definitely wait.
Also, after having seen the capacitor coolers designed to replace the oil stacks, I've got to ask when you have those planned for build/release.

Sorry guys for not answering your earlier questions...

Necros: The kits are sold as a complete model but you can get additional arms... The arms are hot swappable so no magnets needed.

Ruyn: The Capacitor Coolers will be released with the Gabriel. This is one component I will have available as a separate item (likely casting them myself) As far as a date? nothing is set in stone... If the orders for the Crusader and Mortis go well then I can push it through quicker.... If not then it may be a few months.

**ruyn**

NoseGoblin wrote:Ruyn: The Capacitor Coolers will be released with the Gabriel. This is one component I will have available as a separate item (likely casting them myself) As far as a date? nothing is set in stone... If the orders for the Crusader and Mortis go well then I can push it through quicker.... If not then it may be a few months.

I'll probably go ahead and get the crusader then and wait for the coolers to paint him up. Will probably pick up the Gabriel too. Will the Gabriel, Azriel, and Azazel have different armor/bodies?

**TyraelVladinhurst**

must buy for mechanicus army!

and since the price is so good i may buy a few, or not depends if i want some FW stuff this year

**Mad4Minis**

NoseGoblin wrote:
He was getting mold separation in bad places, causing 1/8" thick flash at the mold parting line.

Yeah thats pretty bad, you would think it would have been caught and corrected before shipping.

I hope it was just a one time blunder and everything works out good. Hopefully his QC is better during production. Id hate to wait a month or two after shelling out the cash just to find out 1/2 the run was rejected and had to be recast.

I know Ill be holding out as long as possible for one.

Even if I dont get in on it Im just one order and it seems you have plenty of people who are ready anytime, some even ordering multiple units, so no doubt it will be successful.

**inqscott**

It seems a small army is waiting to buy I hope your caster gets it right this time around.

**Mad4Minis**

Still no news, bummer.

**Mad4Minis**

Latest news from Dreamforge forum...entire kit is being recast, not just the bad parts...no firm date on when it will be in hand yet...