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I ran 2 sessions of Deathwatch, and so far they were entertaining both for my and my Kill Team.It was difficult to picture how an RPG with SPace Marines would look like apart from combat, but I guess we managed to work it out. I cant picture a way to play a ravening lunatic of a World Eater, but I guess FFG will also work it out somehow.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

PrimarchX wrote:All the 40k RPGs are more or less supplements of the same system.

Yeah. Sure they are...

Well, except for anal-retentives like you, HBMC, who need a provable unified field theory of role playing to be satisfied.

Wow. Completely uncalled for.

Stay classy PrimarchX.

PrimarchX wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

PrimarchX wrote:All the 40k RPGs are more or less supplements of the same system.

Yeah. Sure they are...

Well, except for anal-retentives like you, HBMC, who need a provable unified field theory of role playing to be satisfied.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Wow. Completely uncalled for.

Stay classy PrimarchX.

Guys chill.

The fact is they use the same basic mechanics but each game is a unique snowflake and they don't mesh 100%.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Da Boss wrote:
Wow! I read the title, and Iwas all "Wait wait waaaaiiiit, 40K RPG Chaos expansion? The irrepressible Kid Kyoto is having me on."

Photoshopping the book was a bit of a challenge but the real work was hacking the FFG server to post the fake notice.

I knew you had skills KK, but damn...

I am pretty excited for this sounds like just the RPG I'm looking for.

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Edit: I have already been informed by my gaming group that I am NOT infact allowed to play a devotee of Khorne.
Edit 2: I have just been pre-emptively denied my well endowed devotee of slaanesh as well. /crai

Interesting. Will get this to read at the very least. Although still need to buy Deathwatch at some point. It is possible this will be purchased first.

Nice touch by FFG though, I also agree with any suggestions for a Ork, Eldar etc themed book/books for the future.

Eldar and/or Ork would likely see more play than Imperial.

Another epic win by FFG


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Edit: I have already been informed by my gaming group that I am NOT infact allowed to play a devotee of Khorne.
Edit 2: I have just been pre-emptively denied my well endowed devotee of slaanesh as well. /crai

Its obvious they want you to become a devotee of Nurgle and not shower again

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Black Crusade says it offers CSMs and mortal followers so I wonder how they'll do it, will they offer ideas for different power levels or will the human followers start off at such a high level they're on par with marines?

I was wondering that too. The description on the microsite seems to suggest some very varied potentials for a wide range of power levels. For example taking out opposing cult cells is well below someone who goes on to build an army and start a crusade of their own (both examples are given in the description).

It will also be interesting to see if they do any form of crossover book like Ascension that allows your DH or RT players to fall to Chaos and carry on in Black Crusade.

Welp, plague marine. Forgone conclusion.

interesting stuff

I'm curious what fluff will be used to justify the opposed flavors of chaos working together. Is the players group some unit that vaguely mirrors the imperiums chamber militant as chaos' special forces?

Neato. Should provide a good amount of fluff on the beliefs of the servants of chaos.

endtransmission wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Black Crusade says it offers CSMs and mortal followers so I wonder how they'll do it, will they offer ideas for different power levels or will the human followers start off at such a high level they're on par with marines?

I was wondering that too. The description on the microsite seems to suggest some very varied potentials for a wide range of power levels. For example taking out opposing cult cells is well below someone who goes on to build an army and start a crusade of their own (both examples are given in the description).

It will also be interesting to see if they do any form of crossover book like Ascension that allows your DH or RT players to fall to Chaos and carry on in Black Crusade.

There's already a radical's handbook so I would say they'll do something. I've not yet seen a real cross over book though, RT just has a quick section on how to upgrade your characters and of course either you're a marine by the time you're 12 or you ain't so it's a moot point in DW.

aka_mythos wrote:I'm curious what fluff will be used to justify the opposed flavors of chaos working together. Is the players group some unit that vaguely mirrors the imperiums chamber militant as chaos' special forces?

I'm thinking that, likely, with the first book we won't see the various 'flavors' of Chaos.

We'll likely see the most generic, Undivided centric units at the beginning.

awesome!

This might be enough to get me in...although the price for the books makes me reconsider.

Regardless, awesome! Already I am wanting to try out an Alpha Marine or Thousand Sons.

Excuse me, I need to go change my pants.

Y'know didn't Andy Chambers have a role in writing Death Watch? I wonder if he worked on this as well.

Supposedly he did, but I think it was they just credited him because they used some of his Index Astartes fluff pieces.

Nice know of there was a for stand alone expac for either forces of imperium(SM,IG,SoB) or xeno verison maybe Orks eldar/D eldar/tau. Would be nice too see in the future.

Also gives some of are fellow Hygeitically challenged gamers a excuse to RPing devotee of nugrle/plague marine....

Kanluwen wrote:Supposedly he did, but I think it was they just credited him because they used some of his Index Astartes fluff pieces.

I seem to remember that when Ross Watson was interview by 40K Radio he mentioned that they worked with Andy Chambers, rather than just crediting him for ideas. Besides, he’s listed as a writer in Rites of Battle, not ‘with additional material by... ’ or ‘original concepts by...’.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Supposedly he did, but I think it was they just credited him because they used some of his Index Astartes fluff pieces.

I seem to remember that when Ross Watson was interview by 40K Radio he mentioned that they worked with Andy Chambers, rather than just crediting him for ideas. Besides, he’s listed as a writer in Rites of Battle, not ‘with additional material by... ’ or ‘original concepts by...’.

Well there you go then! He did work on it, not just had some of his material rehashed.

Surprised he has time for us 'nerds' now that he works for Blizzard

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Rogue Trader I'm still trying to get a vision of. The intro adventure seemed a bit contrived - salvage a chaos-tainted ship but tradition requires the RT himself be the first to set foot on it and not your 50,000 faceless minions. I imagine it will have to focus on a combination of intrique and ship to ship combat over face to face action. I worry that PCs will just stay where it's safe and send in faceless minions. But like I said, I've not actually played any of them nor am I likely to any time soon.

It's Star Trek roleplay, but you're the guys with the beards from the nega-universe.

Valhallan42nd wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Rogue Trader I'm still trying to get a vision of. The intro adventure seemed a bit contrived - salvage a chaos-tainted ship but tradition requires the RT himself be the first to set foot on it and not your 50,000 faceless minions. I imagine it will have to focus on a combination of intrique and ship to ship combat over face to face action. I worry that PCs will just stay where it's safe and send in faceless minions. But like I said, I've not actually played any of them nor am I likely to any time soon.

It's Star Trek roleplay, but you're the guys with the beards from the nega-universe.

I see that but in Star Trek you have writers how can say the captain must beam down to every hostile world instead of just dropping 100 red shirts.

Gamers arent always that cooperative.

But I guess we can always go with the 'play the game' solution and tell players either they do all the cliches or no experience.

Kanluwen wrote:I'm thinking that, likely, with the first book we won't see the various 'flavors' of Chaos.

We'll likely see the most generic, Undivided centric units at the beginning.

I'm more inclined to think that we'll see Chaos gods in the book, just not the "elite": Bezerkers, Thousand Sons, etc. I'm reluctant to even call them "units", as you have... since there are certain things that are almost necessary to roundout the roles that don't currently exist. No medic or techs really exist.

Either way regardless of chaos god affiliation... there isn't the same open plot device for chaos, that Deathwatch afford to the Imperium... no currently existing mix matched unit with chaos marines of different backgrounds and archetypal skill sets. Something could very easily be invented, but nothing really exists. Its about what the single unifying aspect of a players group will be.

If however the book focuses solely on Chaos Undivided it almost necessitates the accentuate and represent the various interpretation of chaos undivded that different warbands and legions believe.

It'd be silly to have a game about Chaos that didn't have stuff for the 4 Chaos Gods.

A party of Rubric Marines- the best roleplay my group has ever had.

H.B.M.C. wrote:It'd be silly to have a game about Chaos that didn't have stuff for the 4 Chaos Gods.

Yeah, it would...but starting off with the Undivided material gives a good springboard, like how Deathwatch focused on the 'Big Name' Chapters.

With Undivided, you've got the Red Corsairs, Black Legion, Alpha Legion, Night Lords, Word Bearers and their various Cultist associations.

First expansion book could introduce a series of the most iconic archetypes: Sorcerers, Berzerkers, Blood Pact-styled Cultists, etc.

Awesome. Period.