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I hope there is a Lord that opens up C'tan as troop choices in the Necron codex. And removes the unique quality for them.

Seriously, if they go the way of "Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum" Necron Lords I will probably sell off my army. That just seems so incredibly drab to me.

   
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FNP would do very little for them, I think. Most players hurl battlecannons and other ordinance at them, which doesn't let them use FNP.

WBB is cool. It just needs a little tweaking for the modern gaming world


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stalkerzero wrote:I hope there is a Lord that opens up C'tan as troop choices in the Necron codex. And removes the unique quality for them.


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Do we know who is working on the codex?

I'm guessing Phase out will go, Monolith will probably increase in points to account for that, but otherwise not change.
Might go over board and over point it of course, 350-400pts or something like that, because they'll want a new big kit to sell thats in heavy. Plus most folks already have a Monolith or two.

WBB will probably change to FNP just to simplify things for newer players, might give all Necrons a 5+ invulrable save as well to make up for the loss. The new Daemons.

Removing the C'tan is an interesting thing as I have to wonder what it would be replaced with. Lords don't seem to cut it.
However the Harbringer/Herald rumour for each C'tan that popped up an while ago could be a fun thing if they where Special Character level. Especially if one was for the Dragon.

Other than that, probably down to new kits we don't know about yet, and/or changes to units getting new kits that make them more useful.
Although that doesn't always happen, it tends to happen more often than not.

In general though, I am just interested in seeing what they come up with.

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APPARENTLY everyone's favourite, Matt Ward is working on the Necrons. This would make some sense as he only seems to do MeQ codices and IIRC a couple of BL authors or something said he was working on the 'crons. Enjoy.

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Enjoy..

Um, no.

Could be worse though...

The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
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I like Necrons as they are right now. I would like them to conserve the things that make them unique: WBB, all-ignoring warscythes, resilient and teleporting Monoliths... They need a fix and more units, but I think they would loose their spirit if they get FNP instead of WBB, etc. :(

EDIT: just remembered. Some of you talk about putting away C'Tan, but you say what would replace it? I have an idea: Tomb Stalker. Tyranids got the Trygon which was (I THINK) an Apocalypse unit. That would give Necrons a new big guy ^^
And another thing: they would need more ranged weapons (more range to the actual ones, or brand new weapons). Somtimes they get outranged while under fire.


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Lycaeus Wrex wrote:
IronChaos wrote:I would be sad if they loose WBB. It really defines Necrons; I would like it to be "better" somehow to FNP, because when it was designed, there weren't so many FNP units as now (even those fragile Dark Eldar can get it). It should be something like... a combination of both: you can save wounds as FNP AND autorepair as classic WBB (in the background, Necrons are described as very resilient, because they can regen normal wounds which didn't "kill" them, without even falling to the floor).

This may sound complex and even overpowered, but Necrons always have been defined by resilience and autorrepairing. If they loose that, they'll loose part of their spirit...


So...you want them to be T4, 3+ save, with a 4+ FnP, that if they fail they get ANOTHER 4+ to get back up at the start of the turn followed by ANOTHER attempt should the squad get sucked through a Monolith (presuming the 'Lith remains unchanged)? If so, the odds of killing a Necron warrior with any gun bar S8-10 AP1-2 just dropped to....0.33 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 = 0.04%. Yeah. I see that happening....

Straight swap. WBB ---> FnP. Easy to understand, does exactly the same thing, and still not to be sniffed at on a T4 3+ model.

L. Wrex


You're right, I knew that would be OP. The difference is that if you don't "kill" a Necron because of FNP, you can shoot it again in the same turn as it's standing still. If this happens with WBB, you'll have to wait for your next turn to try again, while the Necron you've just "killed" revives, moves and attacks you again. This gives them a unique advantage over FNP units. What's more, personally, I think WBB isn't that complicated. Just lie down the models or put them appart; on your next turn, throw dices and put them again on their place. Very simple.
Of course, we can always call "autorepair" to FNP in their case and stay fluffy ^^

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