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I agree! Unless you know for certain that you wont be facing alot of Armor (which you probably will haha). Id just drop that and if you can, upgrade something somewhere else. the +5 is better!

As for the rest of the list, Ill wait till Big P gives his usual address on historical Accuracy!

I'll look at it again but those damned AOP's actually give me such a pain in the ass. I am looking at a way to knock them out off the get go...while still having the 88's to hit armor with.

Not saying you should drop them. If there a way or an option to bring them unamored?

Yes, but I am kinda aggressive with them. I like the save as well cause its better than the 5+ against infantry with which that rate of fire 4 and FP 4+ are great. I have even used them against side/rear shots on Sherman tanks (FP 6) .....that is the reason for the armored option.

Here are some vehicles I am working on too beef up the Lehr Division..please your feedback is always welcome...

Supply Trucks for Pioneers are always in good standing imho.
As for the Armoured AAA...stay with them. IF you have been doing well with them and they form a wrinkle in your army that you work well with. Far be it for me to tell you not to use it!

(That was a supply truck right?)

Yes, that is a supply maultier, what you think of the paint job, also please give feedback on the paint scheme for the 251/7d before i finish the rest....

First Lehr Grenadier Platoon is done, and I am liking it, so I hope you do too....also I have the extra crew for the 88 and a better picture of the 251/7D halftrack...

I wish you lived near me, we would have a fantastic Panzer Lehr Division, for a TOTAL-WAR villier Bocage scenario.

I have been inspired by your stuff, and am seriously considering Panzerwerfer with the extra crew.

My Panzer Lehr P&M blog,

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/376822.page

As always everything looks great! In regaurds to armored AAA if it ain't broke don't fix it. Just try to avoid anything with with decent anti-tank. Keep up the great work.

Thanks for the pic of the 88's, i was about to get some but wasn't sure about em, good timing friend! and of course brilliant painting mate!

The 88's are awesome IMHO, they have great anti tank and hit on 3+ for AA. The enemy won't leave them be...so either they waste shots and more importantly turns trying to get them or they get shot up. I have used them to shut down sections of a table to allow my Grenadiers to move forward. Also with 4-6 shot AT 13 / FP 3+....great addition to any army.

Interesting list. I always take full combat platoons so I am very curios how the smaller platoon worked in the tournament.

BTW:
I noticed that your infantry has white piping.

AFAIK Panzer Lehr Grenadiers had meadow green piping. (Wiesengrün)

I really didnt know about the piping. I was looking on the internet about the grenadiers and that was what I came up with. Also I can use the grenadiers in other forces and still have them look okay. As far as the smaller size...I really haven't had any issues, I have attached Panzershreck and HMG teams to the platoons, and the smallest platoon is 7 stands which is the same size as most full sized platoons. They work well. I have more platoons to move around which is better than a few large ones.

Time to start tackling the "Other Guys"....I have a pile of primed and ready to be painted guys....here is the painted 21cm Neblewerfer...

You know with all my German Armour, I seriously want an Airbrush to be able to do undercoating, basecoating, camo, overspraying etc. I will probably get one before attempting my Tiger 1E Tanks (Dreager96 has convinced me to field 2 of the 3 Tiger Tanks in the whole of PANZER LEHR, damn you and your silver tongue).

LOL, El Tigre...strikes again! It is a wicked combo with the Grenadiers and the support units!

Moving right along I got 3 stands finished today which is great....

The new support elements are coming along great....which is awesome...

2 x Pak 40's

2 x 21cm Nebblewerfer

With your obvious painting skills, you would really bring the PSC Infantry to life. The detail on the shoulder epilettes is quite impressive. I take it from your location and flag you are a fellow defender of democracy (tho none practicing )...

Great work. Maybe you could repaint the brown and green dots to stripes or patches.

I am deployed overseas, I have been bouncing back and forth over here for almost 6 years. Kinda feels like a second home. I am on my last deployment.

The dots look a little "off" as the camera is zoomed in but at normal detail ,i.e. on the table the effect is kinda like an optical illusion and looks much better. Besides I really don't like the brush strokes when I try to do stripes with a hard edge camo pattern. I do wish I could bring an airbrush out here but it wouldnt last a week.


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GENCON 2011 FLAMES OF WAR ....I will be slugging it out on all 3 tourney's and enjoying every minute of it....expect to see a whole post on it....and the "Girl Friend" and emailed me the tickets have arrived.

Yeah, I used flow enhancer to avoid brush strokes, it works well but you can still tell it was painted on with a brush. I plan to overspray my Panzer IV's with an Airbrush and Middlestone Colour.



You can clearly see my Brush Marks, The overall scheme is too dark, it needs to be lighter so the only way to keep the Camo scheme is a light overspray. Bottomline, I wish i had just left the Tanks "Dunkelgelb" rather than painting a Camo scheme. :(

If you looked at my PZ IV's I used light colors such as italian crew man (327), and flat earth (70983) and then when finished I lightly dry brushed them with middlestone (882). It was a better effect but still not quite what I wanted. Also I used shades to darken them then only highlighted the middlestone to create a show effect. If you dry brush them and then add some battle effects (chipped paint, metal marks), you might be able to skip the air brush and roll with them like that.

All looks good from my perspective.

Excellent work and as always! Keep the pics coming. Along with the further battle reports/exploits of your Panzer Lehr!

I am looking to try 20mm WW2...anyone know of a good supplier....I want to take the Lehr Division up in scale....so well see

Here's a trick if you don't have an airbrush. Take some thin cardboard and cut out shapes in the shape you want your camo to be then you can carefully spray your camo on with spray paint. One other thing I don't think you can attach panzershieks to a platoon they have to be either with your HQ or 2ic. Not 100% on that but you might want to double check before the tourny.

on the rules for HQ attachments, they must be attached to a platoon or else they become a leaderless platoon, as the CiC & 2iC are independent teams only.

was also thinking about using that painters fluid mask but it seems like a lot of work for so small a scale.

Look! LOOK! Look what you made me do... I hope your proud.




(Oh Bollocks I need to take the Early one back and get a Zimmerit one! FFS )

LOL....damn peer pressure. I am sure that one day when your smashing your opponent you will think back and say ..."wow these tigers are a great idea, I am glad I thought of them!"


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LOL....Damn peer pressure. I am sure that one day when your smashing your opponent you will think back and say ..."wow these tigers are a great idea, I am glad I thought of them!"

omg, Who came up the Tiger Blister, talk about ridiculous. At least 50% of the metal parts should have been cast on the model.

It was fiddly, ill fitting and lacked instructions. Lucky The FoW site have the Wittmann pack with the exploded diagram. It is a beautiful model, badly thought through. Pics to follow on my Army Blog