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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/09 13:51:25
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Supposedly to give you the option to have open hatches and model battle damage...at the very least scientifically calculated to piss you off when you try to build it...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/09 16:45:21
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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Big question (P should know this one) what was the side number of Michael wittmanns tiger in Normandy.
I know it was the 101 schwere ABt, but was he 101 as he leader of the 1st element?
Or was he I01 as battalion commander, i have been researching on the web all morning..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/09 18:57:38
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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I am not sure as He had several Tigers before meeting his end in the final one. Might be in the Earth and Steel book?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/10 14:34:31
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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212....from Google.
The 101st SS Heavy Panzer Battalion had arrived in Normandy on 12 June, after a five day, 160-mile (260 km) drive from Beauvais.[69][72] Mustering 45 Tiger I tanks at full strength,[nb 7] the battalion had come under severe air attack near Versailles and been reduced to around 17 serviceable tanks.[72][73][nb 8] The battalion's 1st Company was situated 5.6 miles (9.0 km) northeast of Villers-Bocage; the 2nd Company, under the command of SS-Obersturmführer Michael Wittmann, was just south of Point 213 on the Villers-Bocage ridge; and the 3rd, with only one serviceable tank, was near Falaise and would not reach the front for another two days.[70][74] Wittmann's 2nd Company nominally consisted of 12 tanks,[nb 9] but through a combination of losses and mechanical failures only Tigers 212, 213, 214, 224, 231, and 232 were present on 13 June.[11][18]
Check out my Blog for the Tigers. (I couldn't swap it as there were no Zimmerit ones left, nevermind I'll live)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/11 17:56:58
Subject: Re:Panzer Lehr Division
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Here are a few more mini's for the Division, I bought the old 8.8cm box set and got 4 complete guns...surprise to me. So new List with 3 8.8 cm guns. Also added some 7.5 cm Infantry guns. Now this all still need "Foliage", so not quite done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/11 19:55:38
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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Whoa, thats great if you are playing an Grand Offensive you'll have some serious points to put down. My purchases were originally put down to impulses, now it's more driven by the Army list we discussed. That said, I still have 5 x Panzer IV's and 4 x STuG III which make for a nice armoured spearhead when combined with the Jagdpanzers and Tiger 1E's.
My Tiggers...and other models
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/376822.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/12 12:56:40
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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Regular Dakkanaut
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You won't regret the Tigers Mwnciboo. I run twoof em and they always serve me well. Dreager you can use silly putty to mask of areas too it works pretty well and leaves the edges a little fuzzy which is nice since most armor of that period didn't have hard lined camo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/13 12:46:07
Subject: Re:Panzer Lehr Division
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Here are the updated pics I took...I have added the foliage and now just need a few decals and some "Pin Striping" and all done...please add your comments as they keep the wheels a turning....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/13 16:32:12
Subject: Re:Panzer Lehr Division
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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WELL, here is the progress so far tonight I will finish the HMG teams and work on the last rocket launcher team. I have some final steps to go on the half tracks and then there done...the list is coming along but I don't think I will finish the last set here...so OH well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/14 07:43:18
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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Lieutenant Colonel
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The thing I like about your miniatures most ( and it's something for me to emulate) is the diorama style bases. Each one has a minute detail or some kind of interest, a piece of wall, or a empty shell case. I am going to buy some of the ARMY PAINTER Static Grass, and try add some extra height and interest to my bases.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/14 07:49:13
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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Ya know, I like that idea for bases, there are too many that just clump the mini's on them. I used the German casualties pack to add some character and at the same time give me about 3-4 extra bases. I managed to get 10 stands on the single Lehr platoon blister, not including the "Tank Hunter Teams", which is great.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/14 10:39:05
Subject: Re:Panzer Lehr Division
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Looking good as always. One thing and maybe I am wrong but I believe the piping for artillary shoulder boards was red. Keep up the great work!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/14 10:47:25
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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It is , the small 7.5 SiG infantry guns are still "Infantry"...as per the T.O.E., so hence the white piping on the small field guns.
*The Lehr Army with the green spring/summer bases will be on Ebay in August, as soon as I get home....so start saving those pennies!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/15 10:12:48
Subject: Re:Panzer Lehr Division
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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SO last night I as prepare the Division to ship-out, or at least back home....I went through the tournament list to see what i still needed in the way of units to paint....and while I was painting I decided to finish up the last bit of touches on the armor ...so without further ado;
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/15 11:04:35
Subject: Re:Panzer Lehr Division
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Gotta love them Tigers. Safe trip home and good luck in the tourny.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 07:21:37
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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If you think this is groovy wait till I get home and start on my 20mm Lehr Division! I have purchased 4 Dragon armor Sd Kfz 251 series halftracks, Panther's, Tiger, Jagdpanzer, Stug G and King Tiger. Of course the armor is finished I will have a ton of infantry to paint.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 08:29:39
Subject: Re:Panzer Lehr Division
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ugggg infantry. At least you won't have to do anypea dot camo patterns, That's a real pain at 15 - 20mm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/16 19:55:02
Subject: Re:Panzer Lehr Division
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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MG 42 teams done and starting on the 2nd Grenadier platoon....please comment and let me know what you think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/17 10:17:02
Subject: Re:Panzer Lehr Division
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Alright the second set of half tracks is done , dull coated and ready to ship out....but if your going back home is that "Ship-in?"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/17 21:05:47
Subject: Re:Panzer Lehr Division
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Regular Dakkanaut
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How many points is this army?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/18 02:46:42
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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The army models I am painting are with all the options, to include Divisional support. I have Panzerwerfer 42's, 10.5 cm arty, Recon armor, armor and the infantry platoons. I also have the Tigers. I have been working on this over the last 5 months and its been a lesson and helped me to improve immensely in my painting. As for the total points I could easily field 3k of Lehr Division alone. I simply haven't made a list yet.
I will post a final picture of everything I have painted prior to leaving here.
Panzergrenadier Lehr Kompanie German Late-War
*Platoon* *Qty* *Unit* *Points*
Headquarters
Panzergrenadier Lehr Kompanie HQ
2 Cmd Panzerfaust SMG team
2 Sd Kfz 251/1
2 Panzerschreck team
150
Combat Platoons
Panzergrenadier Lehr Platoon
1 Cmd Panzerfaust SMG team
3 Tank-hunter team
4 Sd Kfz 251/1
6 MG team
290
Panzergrenadier Lehr Platoon
1 Cmd Panzerfaust SMG team
2 Tank-hunter team
3 Sd Kfz 251/1
4 MG team
185
Panzergrenadier Lehr Heavy Platoon
1 Cmd SMG team
3 Sd Kfz 251/1
4 MG42 HMG
165
Weapons Platoons
Panzergrenadier Lehr Heavy Mortar Platoon
1 Cmd SMG team
1 Kubelwagen
2 Observer Rifle team
4 12cm sGW43 mortar
150
Panzergrenadier Lehr Anti-tank Gun Platoon
1 Cmd SMG team
2 7.5cm PaK40 gun
105
Panzerpionier Lehr Platoon
1 Cmd Pioneer MG team
1 Sd Kfz 251/1
6 Pioneer MG team
3 Sd Kfz 251/7 (Pioneer)
265
Divisional Support
Schwere SS-Panzer Platoon *Allied Platoon*
3 Tiger I E
720
Tank-hunter Lehr Platoon
3 Jagdpanzer IV
285
Puma PanzerspƤh Lehr Platoon
3 Sd Kfz 234/2 (Puma)
150
Rocket Launcher Battery
1 Cmd SMG team
1 Observer Rifle team
1 Kubelwagen
3 21cm NW42
125
Armoured Heavy Artillery Lehr Battery
1 Cmd SMG team
1 Staff team
1 Kfz 15 field car
1 Kfz 68 radio truck
3 Hummel
1 Panzer III OP
315
Anti-aircraft Gun Lehr Platoon
2 Sd Kfz 7/2 (3.7cm) (armoured)
120
Heavy Anti-aircraft Gun Lehr Platoon
1 Cmd SMG team
1 Kfz 15 field car
3 8.8cm FlaK36 gun (8 crew)
3 Sd Kfz 7
275
Company Points: 3300
Source document: Earth & Steel (D-Day)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/18 17:20:39
Subject: Re:Panzer Lehr Division
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Nice! I didn't know you had Hummels. I run three of them in my pioneer list and in MHO they are well worth the points. I even used them in a direct fire anti-tank role once to win a tournement lol. All ya have to do then is hit your target and boom! 1+ FP. Looks like you'll be able to make a list for any situation. Can't wait to see the whole army in one pic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/19 06:08:52
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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This a great thread, i am just beginning flames of war and this is good inspiration! Your models look great.
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Dont worry, Be happy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/19 12:49:53
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Thanks I will write a "my painting Process" post so that you can see what I am doing. The other guy who plays at are camp got back so we are going to throw down a large game and see how it goes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/21 07:36:35
Subject: Re:Panzer Lehr Division
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Automatically Appended Next Post:
The Newly created Kamfgruppe Me, Lehr Division smashed an allied attempt to break through German lines. Late last night elements of the 3rd Armored Division advanced on German positions only to be met by a well prepared German counter attack. The fight was short, and bloody...and completely one sided..but immensely fun. I got to use my Pioneers and managed to hit with no less than 4 flamethrower shots...completely wiping a 76mm Sherman platoon. That and some incredible luck with my 120mm Mortars and 8.8cm guns....the allied salient was no more.
Fun game 1750 Lehr vs. 3rd Armor
Mission: Free for All
Final outcome: complete German vicotry
Losses:
German;
1 8.8cm gun team
1 grenadier stand
U.S.;
5 Stewart 37mm
5 Sherman 75mm
4 Sherman 76mm
2 105mm gun teams
1 2iC Sherman
Round 1:
opponent moved and attempted to dig in, no shots fired
me:
I laid down a smoke barrage , maneuvered my grenadiers into buildings.
moved my pioneers in position to take control of 2 buildings
fired a mortar barrage taking out 1 tank and 1 105mm arty team, pinning them
Jagdpanzers manage to score 1 tank kill, and two "bail-outs" at long range
88's fire but only get one hit taking out another 105mm gun.
Round 2:
opponent;
Sherman tank platoon fails morale test and flees
105mm unpins
76mm tank platoon moves out of the smoke and into firing position
Stewart tank platoon flanks and moves into engage Pak 40's and grenadiers
105mm Sherman tanks fire a barrage onto the grenadiers pinning one squad and killing one stand of infantry
76's knock out an 88 gun team
Me;
Pioneers brake cover and move to engage 76's
2 37mm AA half tracks flank the Stewart tanks knocking out one
grenadiers surge forward taking out another Stewart and "bailing" a third
Pack 40's miss both shots
Pioneers hit with 4 flamethrower shots bailing 3 tanks and double bailing one of them (which he fails his morale test)
21cm Neblewerfers fire dnger close bailing out Stewart number four
Jagdpanzers fire and bailing our 2iC
Mortars fire and claim one HMG team and pin the comabt engineer platoon in cover
Morale Checks:
76's under half fail
Stewart's under half fail
enemy is at half of force and calls game with only 3 105 shermans, 2 105mm arty teams, and a combat engineer platoon left.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/21 10:57:46
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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wow, 1 team and 1 x 88 that is an astonishing victory. 9 Shermans, and 5 Stuarts. How did the tigers do? Everything else got a mention but them. lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/21 11:46:53
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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NO tigers on this List ....but I figured that in missions like breakthrough, and others were I cant use them I am trying a more infantry heavy list. I love those Pioneers...SICKNESS. The Flamethrowers Punished the 76's without even having to assault. FORCING that morale check, the enemy 76's failed it. I love the Tigers but this list gives me 10 platoons to deploy. I can wait and place my heavy guns and Pioneers after most everyone else. Definite advantage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/21 13:17:59
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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Madrak Ironhide
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Protip: If you've uploaded pics to the gallery, there's code on
each pics gallery page if you want to use it in articles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/21 14:03:22
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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I made the army profile but it seems it my name isn't attached to it. Oh well also how do you get it into the sub-category?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/21 15:21:00
Subject: Panzer Lehr Division
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It's automatically in the sub category
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