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While I'm on Kan's side with this one, I have to say the Ork fluff gets a pass from most people because it's hilarious and very fitting with their overall character.

Brother SRM wrote:While I'm on Kan's side with this one, I have to say the Ork fluff gets a pass from most people because it's hilarious and very fitting with their overall character.

I didn't say it wasn't funny or unacceptable

I was just saying that there's nuggets that make no real sense in the grand scheme of 40k's fluff.

pretre wrote:
And people are sweating Draigo killing a Daemon Prince or two? Serious...

Just to be pedantic, I don't think many people are sweating Draigo killing a Daemon Prince (or two). I think they are sweating him carving the name of the Grand Master of the Grey Knights into the heart of Mortarion.

It seems (to me) to be over the top. First, you best a Primarch, who is also a Daemon Prince. Second, you don't just cut out his heart, but you carve someone's name into it. Third, we know that Primarchs can be killed (almost every loyalist one, Horus, Night Haunter, Alpharius). We know that daemons can be banished into the warp. Mortarion (at least normally) is ruling a daemon planet in the Eye of Terror, right? Why not KILL him instead of defacing his internal organs? Can daemons never be killed, even if they are destroyed within the warp? It just sounds faintly ridiculous.

Lol, imagining the image of Draigo carving 'lul draigo wuz here' all over Mortarion sounds awesome.

He carves his dead master's name in Mortarion's heart, not his own.

Da Butcha wrote:

pretre wrote:
And people are sweating Draigo killing a Daemon Prince or two? Serious...

Just to be pedantic, I don't think many people are sweating Draigo killing a Daemon Prince (or two). I think they are sweating him carving the name of the Grand Master of the Grey Knights into the heart of Mortarion.

It seems (to me) to be over the top. First, you best a Primarch, who is also a Daemon Prince. Second, you don't just cut out his heart, but you carve someone's name into it. Third, we know that Primarchs can be killed (almost every loyalist one, Horus, Night Haunter, Alpharius). We know that daemons can be banished into the warp. Mortarion (at least normally) is ruling a daemon planet in the Eye of Terror, right? Why not KILL him instead of defacing his internal organs? Can daemons never be killed, even if they are destroyed within the warp? It just sounds faintly ridiculous.

That's interesting. When you kill a demon in real space, it goes back to the warp. They never die, and I'm pretty sure this extends to demon princes. But what if you are in the warp when you kill them? I guess you just can't. So yeah, he probably just couldn't have killed Mortarion.

We're still having people saying that Draigo killed a Daemon Primarch by himself(key word DAEMON--as in "can be banished/slain with force weaponry)?

He didn't. There was a Grandmaster and a few squads worth of Grey Knights alongside them.

And even then, Draigo was one of the few survivors of that particular battle.
As for "carving it into the heart", we don't know if it was Mortarion actually taking to the field himself(in which case it doesn't matter that he's part-Daemon, because he still has a physical form from when he was Astartes) or if he had possessed a host in order to take to the field.