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Is he their main writer or something? Is he is a space-marine fanboy having written Ultramarines, BAs, and now Grey Knights?

Matt Ward has single-handily wrote the over-powered Blood Angels, terrible fluff Grey Knights and now he will write the Necron codex? The best and most balanced 5th edition codex so far as been Dark Eldar. They need to use that book as a model of a good book - no Mephiston.

We need to sign a "fire Matt Ward" petition, and make Phil Kelly write more books.

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You know Phil Kelly wrote the SW book right? Or is this supposed to be a joke?

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Next thing we know, Matt Ward will be responsible for 9/11 and the Holocaust.

Kennedy Assassination? Matt Ward
Vietnam War? Matt Ward
WW2? Matt Ward

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Matt Ward stole my girlfriend and kicked my dog!

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I heard matt ward is the reason we invaded afghan!

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Gathering the Informations.

asimo77 wrote:You know Phil Kelly wrote the SW book right? Or is this supposed to be a joke?

It's people not understanding things.

Matt Ward doesn't "write almost every codex".

As of now, he's "written"(aka: helmed the production of) exactly 3(Space Marines, Blood Angels, and now the Grey Knights) books.
Robin Cruddace has written 2(Imperial Guard and Tyranids), Phil Kelly has 4(Orks, Dark Eldar, Craftworld Eldar, and Space Wolves), and the rest of the 'current run' of Codices(at least that I have on hand. My Black Templars book has vanished and it irks me) that have released since Ward's been working for them are cooperative efforts of two long-time studio members(Andy Hoare & Jervis Johnson on Dark Angels, Alessio Cavatore[blargh!] & Gav Thorpe on Chaos Space Marines) collaborating together.
   
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Phil kelly seems like a solid writer then. He has done some good codices.

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Oh my god will everyone shut up about Mat Ward forever, tia.

Phil Kelly is my favorite writer GW's got. All of his books are fun, fluffy, and competitive (or were at the time) while Cruddace is 1 for 2. Ward writes books with decent rules (if sometimes poorly worded) but bad fluff. I'd like it if Jervis wrote something new, since Battle Missions was pretty cool and that was his.

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I think Jervis has just kind of settled back and begun thinking about retirement, mostly from the reaction that Dark Angels got.
   
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He took ouare jerbs!

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Matt Ward taught Helen Keller how to read

Matt Ward gave cavemen fire

Matt Ward took BoyMac's jerb


Wow, I feel like we can go on about this all day It's the second Matt-bashing topic I've become involved in today.

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In the grand scheme of things though he really doesn't matter, I took a random sampling at another forum (not 40k related) and no one had heard of him.

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You guys miss the obvious.

The author doesn't matter. GW's edict that Power Armor armies must be easy to use, and very strong so that the entry level 12 year old who gets in will have a good chance of winning games, without having their troops get mowed down by bolter fire and not having to make a saving throw.

Don't blame the Authors at all. Whenever they touch a marine/Imperial book, the heads at GW obviously tell them to make the book as powerful as possible to entice newer players. Marines/Imperial Armies are the flagship armies of the game. Of course they aren't going to be "balanced" like the xenos books.

I have no issue with Matt Ward or Phil Kelly for writing broke dick codices. They are just doing their job.

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Well if it wasn't a 40k forum then I don't see why him being unheard of is all that special.

Edit: was in refernce to EmilCrane's post

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asimo77 wrote:Well if it wasn't a 40k forum then I don't see why him being unheard of is all that special.

Edit: was in refernce to EmilCrane's post


Word spreads around nerd land, and the way people here carry on about him you'd think he was causing the apocalypse.

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EmilCrane wrote:
asimo77 wrote:Well if it wasn't a 40k forum then I don't see why him being unheard of is all that special.

Edit: was in refernce to EmilCrane's post


Word spreads around nerd land, and the way people here carry on about him you'd think he was causing the apocalypse.


You mean he isn't?

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In all honesty, joking aside, what 40k is what it is because of its background. Few people would play this game without the visuals and fluff. Mat Ward writes absolutely terrible background, which harms the game where it hurts most.

Usually when a new codex comes out, people are all like "oh, cool new units, awesome art, it can do *what!@#!@?*".

When the GK book got into the hands of the players at my store, people went "haha that's slowed, are you joking, is that actually in there? oh my god it is, wtf..."

While this hasn't been restricted just to Mat Ward's books, it has been most pronounced with his works (although Phil Kelly's Space Wolves also fit in here) and has reached a crescendo with this newest work since starting out with C:SM in 2008 and the gakfest that was all the stuff that wasn't copy/pasted directly from the 2E C:UM.

Given how much this game and hobby is based off of the Warhammer universe's fluff, that's not a good thing.

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And once again, there's actually very little when read in its entirety, and not going off third hand sources in the Grey Knights book that goes against canon.
   
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Vaktathi wrote: 2E C:UM.

Wait what?
My teenage mind does not comprehend this.
Any I entire agree with you Vaktathi. 40k is mostly play for the fluff.
"haha that's slowed, are you joking, is that actually in there? oh my god it is, wtf..."

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There was a Codex: Ultramarines.
   
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Kanluwen wrote:And once again, there's actually very little when read in its entirety, and not going off third hand sources in the Grey Knights book that goes against canon.


This is true

Lets take Draigo for example, he banished Mortarion with the help of a full squad of some of the most elite GKs in the universe and even then was the only survivor

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Kanluwen wrote:There was a Codex: Ultramarines.

Oh okay.
Codex:Smurfs. Yes I believe I have that book somewhere.
Wait Drago Did have alot of other grey knights die oh thank god I thought he was chuck norris.

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Asherian Command wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:There was a Codex: Ultramarines.

Oh okay.
Codex:Smurfs. Yes I believe I have that book somewhere.
Wait Drago Did have alot of other grey knights die oh thank god I thought he was chuck norris.


yeah, he had a squad with him when he banished a daemon primarch
things start getting weird when he goes into the warp however

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Even the stuff that isn't so much against Canon, is just so ridiculous and silly as to cross the line into parody. That's the biggest problem. It doesn't feel like I'm reading battles of epic heroes in a desperate hour, it feels like I'm reading a bad internet fanfic with the Mary Sue-est of characters.

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EmilCrane wrote:
Asherian Command wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:There was a Codex: Ultramarines.

Oh okay.
Codex:Smurfs. Yes I believe I have that book somewhere.
Wait Drago Did have alot of other grey knights die oh thank god I thought he was chuck norris.


yeah, he had a squad with him when he banished a daemon primarch
things start getting weird when he goes into the warp however

Oh okay. That sounds better. In some way...
But it doesn't really make sense because Moratain never actually has left his planet. It kinda doesn't make sense for him to leave because he was emo....

You Now Vak, that could be said about my lore. But I don't complain, I improve. Which Matt Ward seems to be missing in his works. Thats why I don't accept the grey knight lore about the sisters and Drago as REAL lore.

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Vaktathi wrote:Even the stuff that isn't so much against Canon, is just so ridiculous and silly as to cross the line into parody. That's the biggest problem. It doesn't feel like I'm reading battles of epic heroes in a desperate hour, it feels like I'm reading a bad internet fanfic with the Mary Sue-est of characters.

Some of the stuff is explicitly labeled to be "legends" so it becomes a bit more excusable that way.

Kind of like how some people believe that catching Bigfoot and rubbing his belly will result in Armageddon.
   
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Kanluwen wrote:
Kind of like how some people believe that catching Mat Ward and rubbing his belly will result in Armageddon.

Fixed that to make it more like every single topic I've read in the last week.

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id like to see matt ward and charlie sheen play a game.... it would just consist of them both stating "i win" over and over...... and not doing much of anything else...

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