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im2randomghgh wrote:...Hazzer=Ultrasmurf player

Ultrasmurf player=bad.

Lets keep it civil shall we?

purplefood wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:...Hazzer=Ultrasmurf player

Ultrasmurf player=bad.

Lets keep it civil shall we?

Alright. We'll put him to sleep with drugs first, and then put the bolter round through his skull. He won't feel a thing. Glory to Chaos!*

*Morally acceptable slaughter now included, for a limited time only!

Mr Nobody wrote:

blazinpsycho&typhooni wrote:

Uhlan wrote:In the latest HH book there is a story called 'The Iron Within'. It contains an aside which gives a somewhat graphic look at a dreadnought, its occupant and the reverence associated with it. I found it sad yet illuminating.

When did that come out? Any clue if it's out up north?

Yes, it's out in North America, I got my copy a week ago.

Is the iron within a book or a story? and if it is a story, what's the book called?


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Darkvoidof40k wrote:

purplefood wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:...Hazzer=Ultrasmurf player

Ultrasmurf player=bad.

Lets keep it civil shall we?

Alright. We'll put him to sleep with drugs first, and then put the bolter round through his skull. He won't feel a thing. Glory to Chaos!*

*Morally acceptable slaughter now included, for a limited time only!

Or we can just put SO MANY drugs in him that he goes to sleep, and the goes comatose, and while he is vegetal, we feed him to the zombies from the "a vindicare, grey knight brother captain, and an Inquisitor walk into a space hulk..." thread.

That works too.

I thought chaos dreads were so psycho because they get denied the chance for their soul to join with chaos, plus the whole sensory deprivation thing to a sensation-obsessed CSM... need I say more?
Normal marine dreadboys are saner (mostly) because they have no greater wish than to serve the emperor for as long and as well as they can.

CSM dreads are psycho because they have spent a few thousand years in a metal cage with no idea of the outside world...
SM dreads aren't as insane because they spend their time in stasis.

Lysenis wrote:I do remember from the Blood Angel Ominibus that one of the Blood Angel chapters had a dreadnought Chapter Master. it was either in the omnibus or the following books and since I do not have them infront of me I can not rightly tell you which. . .

It was the book Red Fury, where a council of the Blood Angel Chapter and Sccessors was called, the Dradnought Chapter Master appeared.

I believe Dread could haveleadership roles, but their need for slumber as they age, their need for maintenence, their less mobile forms, and their...well, mental degradation? (When you hear the speech of the dread in DoWII, you feel he's not all there) can hinder that. Otherwise their centuries of experience makes them fantastic advisors.

Who gets to give Baal his sponge bath?

Baal is a planet...

purplefood wrote:Baal is a planet...

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Someone with too much time, then?


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Dark Apostle 666 wrote:I thought chaos dreads were so psycho because they get denied the chance for their soul to join with chaos, plus the whole sensory deprivation thing to a sensation-obsessed CSM... need I say more?
Normal marine dreadboys are saner (mostly) because they have no greater wish than to serve the emperor for as long and as well as they can.

Only Slaaneshi SM are sensory obsessed.

Leading a battle, yes. Running a war, no. They'd keep nodding off.

Which sucks.

I wonder if they could command ships?

The Chaos Space Marines abhor the thought of a half-life locked away inside the imprisoning womb of a Dreadnought, where they can no longer see battle with their ow eyes or feel the kick of a bolter in their fist. For them, it is better to die and find final release in the surging maelstrom of the warp than spend an eternity locked in an adamantium shell, fighting the Long War as a maniacal machine. As a result, most Chaos Space Marine Dreadnoughts are completly psychotic. A creeping insanity mixed with fear and fury has riddled their brains of the long millennia.

From the current chaos space marine codex, so... its highly unlikely that a Chaos Dreadnought get trusted with anything else than to kill SOMETHING.

If I recall correctly the Iron Hands Chapter are known for being led by Dreadnoughts into battle(amongst other things)? It fits their "flesh is weak" thinking and strong connections with the Priesthood of Mars. So if any chapter got a huge amount of active dreadnoughts it should be them.

Small, Far Away wrote:Leading a battle, yes. Running a war, no. They'd keep nodding off.

Which sucks.

I wonder if they could command ships?

They don't fall asleep.
Once they are fully awakened they can function normally but the longer they are in a dreadnought the harder it is to wake them up... or is that dragons?
At any rate they 'sleep' in stasis not normal sleep.

Scotty1985 wrote:Who gets to give Baal his sponge bath?

purplefood wrote:Baal is a planet...

Made me lol.

Seriously though, I don't think the dread would nod off or anything, there is still a marine inside that thing and even though he's wounded I think he would keep the qualities of a marine in regards to sleep.

Dark Apostle 666 wrote:I thought chaos dreads were so psycho because they get denied the chance for their soul to join with chaos, plus the whole sensory deprivation thing to a sensation-obsessed CSM... need I say more?
Normal marine dreadboys are saner (mostly) because they have no greater wish than to serve the emperor for as long and as well as they can.

Not all are sensory deprived....

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Demetrius_(Violator)

Small, Far Away wrote:Leading a battle, yes. Running a war, no. They'd keep nodding off.

Which sucks.

I wonder if they could command ships?

Yes, they could.

im2randomghgh wrote:

Small, Far Away wrote:Leading a battle, yes. Running a war, no. They'd keep nodding off.

Which sucks.

I wonder if they could command ships?

Yes, they could.

Anything can happen in the 40K universe, especially if the Ward Dragon wills it to be so. Future Tau codex should reveal this.

purplefood wrote:

Small, Far Away wrote:Leading a battle, yes. Running a war, no. They'd keep nodding off.

They don't fall asleep. At any rate they 'sleep' in stasis not normal sleep.

That's probably part of the problem. Even "normal" Space Marines have an upgrade that let's them go for long times without sleep but being awake too long is not good for you. Whatever psych-conditioning and drugs keeps a marine from flipping would have to be applied to dreads too, and if they actually can't sleep while active it's going to hit them harder and cause worse side effects.

You might not have to sleep for a long time, but it will wreck your mental and physical agility.

Elector wrote:You might not have to sleep for a long time, but it will wreck your stamina and cause a lot of fatigue.

Indeed.

and while you are locked in this lovely metal box well run videos of barney and friends so youll have something to keep yourself entertained.

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Darkvoidof40k wrote:

Fists of the emperor wrote:The way that.dreads are sometimes portarared in black library books and why they are not normally In command is because their minds start to slip when they are interned. They still think they are at a past battle, normally the one where they were killed. Understandable, really they sleep for so long and when woken still think they are dreaming.

Not particularly so. Whilst there is some truth to this, they're usually completely coherent when they're fully awake.

Fall of Damnos has really explored the mindset of dreads more than other books and there is a lot of mental slippage taking place. In most other publications dreads really only deliver dialog here and there but we know little of their thoughts and emotions. This may just be a newer take on the fluff but I'm betting we see more dementia afflicted dreads in writings to come. There will always be those, however, that handle the entombment better and keep their facilities intact.

I think the main reason Loyalist dreds get put to sleep is because of this.


while they would be perfectly capable of staying sane for thousands of years, the marine inside could get bored.

85% of engagements won't require his services and so he will just sit around twiddling his giant metal thumbs.

they put them to sleep so they don't got bat stirr-crazy.


Dred is like "Emperor Dammit, give me some Xenos to KILL. I been hanging around this training ground for 47 years and I am sick of playing Wist with Venerable Brother Invictus!!!"

Scotty1985 wrote:Who gets to give Baal his sponge bath?

Yeah, as PurpleFood said Baal is a planet...

Although, it does have two 'Baals' hanging together in orbit. Baal is a crappy planet and it's moons, Baal Prime and Baal Secundus, are most probably in dire need of a sponge bath by now considering their proximity.

In all seriousness, I'm sure those at GW were very aware of the inuendo here...

I want to know who paints the DC dreads, that seems like a DANGEROUS job.
Also, I remember reading the the BA 4th ed book that one of the dreads was fed Blood before battles. Did that get ret-coned and does that mean that Dreads can eat??

Grey Templar wrote:I think the main reason Loyalist dreds get put to sleep is because of this.


while they would be perfectly capable of staying sane for thousands of years, the marine inside could get bored.

85% of engagements won't require his services and so he will just sit around twiddling his giant metal thumbs.

they put them to sleep so they don't got bat stirr-crazy.


Dred is like "Emperor Dammit, give me some Xenos to KILL. I been hanging around this training ground for 47 years and I am sick of playing Wist with Venerable Brother Invictus!!!"

The dreads could lift weights

or wrestle other dreads.

Or trade stocks.

Or make dresses.

There is a WORLD of possibility here.

They could play MMOs for centuries on end...they'd be the best around.

...Nobody could ever take them down.

Elector wrote:They could play MMOs for centuries on end...they'd be the best around.

...Nobody could ever take them down.

Except their fingers are bigger than the keyboard...and they only have three per hand.

They could use very large keyboards.

They could control it through an external link routed through their Mind-Impulse Units.

They could get equipped with utility mechadendrites that feature a bunch of those split-open, rapid-typing fingers, a la Ghost In The Shell.

They could grip it by the husk.

Psienesis wrote:They could use very large keyboards.

They could control it through an external link routed through their Mind-Impulse Units.

They could get equipped with utility mechadendrites that feature a bunch of those split-open, rapid-typing fingers, a la Ghost In The Shell.

They could grip it by the husk.

Nah, they still wouldn't beat the techmarines, or any mechanicus for that matter. We ALL know that MMOs of the future get ass-raped by the Fabricator General.