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Looks like state law already bans sex education before 8th grade.

All this does is prevent it from being in a prepared lesson, prior to 8th grade.

Although I did have to LOL at this quote from one of the whole 13 student protesters to the bill.

“I know that we have juniors that are ready to take it head on next year,” he said.

8th grade? Holy crap. My school started sex ed at grade 3!

Well, considering America, it's amazing that they even have a sex ed program.

corpsesarefun wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Apparently those amusingly stifled people in charge of Tennessee want to ban teachers from talking about homosexuality (because silence will be highly beneficial to any young people going through their sexual awakenings...) and George has had some thoughts on it.








http://www.citizen-times.com/article/DN/20110521/NEWS/305210025/-Don-t-Say-Gay-bill-clears-TN-Senate

I don't really care, but how about we talk about that math, English, History, and Government first? Too much focus on bs and not enough on 2+2=5.

Out of curiosity, why government instead of the sciences?

It and music are covered under math.


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Mannahnin wrote:If I were a member of a not-really-dangerous group which has been labeled evil and sinful through much of history and even today is regularly murdered for their preference of sex partners or spouses, I might be tempted to be so bold as to wear shirts which said things like "l'm gaylic". I'm devoutly proud of my Irish heritage, and while I love Gaelic, I can't take any offense at "gaylic". I admire the sense of defiance.

I would think you just spelled Gaelic wrong.

Alot of people seem to be easily confusing sexual orientation, and gender preference. Not all gay men are effeminate, nor are all lesbians feminine. Nor all the all attracted to the same personal qualities in others. Theres a myriad of, sub-labels( for lack of a better term) that are used within the GLBT communities to express how people see themselves and who they find attractive.

If you don't know the jargon, its pretty easy to figure out since alot of it is innuendo based. But, it would mean educating ones self about another culture most people prefer to avoid because they too might catch some dreadful Takei cooties.

Mistress of minis wrote:
If you don't know the jargon, its pretty easy to figure out since alot of it is innuendo based. But, it would mean educating ones self about another culture most people prefer to avoid because they too might catch some dreadful Takei cooties.

Or maybe they just don't care. I know thats about #9,875,252 on my priority list. In the words of the immortal bard: "Tune in, turn off, and drop out man!"

Fafnir wrote:8th grade? Holy crap. My school started sex ed at grade 3!

Well, considering America, it's amazing that they even have a sex ed program.

We started in grade. 6.

You start sex ed at the age of 11 in the UK, if I recall correctly.

Halonachos wrote:I personally don't like the homosexuals who decide that everyone should know and proclaim it at the loudest. In fact a friend of mine got upset over a homosexual wearing a T-shirt saying "I'm Gaylic". His mom's from Ireland and she was none to pleased either.

I feel the same way about people who put the fact that they're gay in their info bar on websites like Facebook, it's just stupid.

"Look at me! I'm different! Just like everyone else..."

Once homosexuality has been socially acceptable for a bit longer I imagine people won't feel the need to be so vocal about it.

The less identity politics we have the more unified we'll be as people, as everyone will someday have the same worldview as me and (paraphrased)Gunnery Sergeant Hartman.

"There is no bigotry here... to me you are all equally worthless."

Lord-Loss wrote:I feel the same way about people on websites like Facebook, it's just stupid.

Corrected your typo.

Frazzled wrote:Or maybe they just don't care.

By that standard, high school would just be about sex, drugs, rap, heavy metal, and sports.

Melissia wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Or maybe they just don't care.

By that standard, high school would just be about sex, drugs, rap, heavy metal, and sports.

Wait, its not?

Frazzled wrote:

Melissia wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Or maybe they just don't care.

By that standard, high school would just be about sex, drugs, rap, heavy metal, and sports.

Wait, its not?

Of course not!




There's violence and threats too!

Mistress of minis wrote:Alot of people seem to be easily confusing sexual orientation, and gender preference. Not all gay men are effeminate, nor are all lesbians feminine. Nor all the all attracted to the same personal qualities in others. Theres a myriad of, sub-labels( for lack of a better term) that are used within the GLBT communities to express how people see themselves and who they find attractive.

If you don't know the jargon, its pretty easy to figure out since alot of it is innuendo based. But, it would mean educating ones self about another culture most people prefer to avoid because they too might catch some dreadful Takei cooties.

The tranny subculture is Tzeentchian in nature by itself. I'm more fem some days and more masc others, and my preferences, both sub/dom and masc/fem, tend to nudge accordingly. It's much more a wave to be ridden than anything predictable or clear-cut though. I dress what I would call fairly gay but people still can't tell about me for sure, which absolutely reflects my extreme Bi-ness.

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Melissia wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Or maybe they just don't care.

By that standard, high school would just be about sex, drugs, rap, heavy metal, and sports.

Wait, its not?

Of course not!




There's violence and threats too!

Thanks. I knew I was missing something.

Fafnir wrote:And for the record, the whole 'acting gay' thing isn't an act. They're just like that. The reason gay men act feminine is because they are feminine. Likewise, the opposite is true for lesbians. There's obviously varying degrees, and quite the difference between an egalitarian homosexual relationship and a transexual one (not the correct term), but generally you'll find that that's how things are.

Oh believe me, I know. I have no idea how my friend has been able to hide it from his dad with his voice and all fitting the stereotype perfectly.

@ Dogma, I don't tell women that they're pretty, hot, or anything really. I've always been kind of 'meh' towards the whole sex thing and I really don't care about it enough compared to school or work. I believe that one should keep their preferences and experiences to themselves. I don't think its cool if some guy boasts about banging a chick while doing a handstand and I loath people who think that they should tell everyone. If the government should have no say in what happens in the sack then I don't want to know either, especially when parents are concerned.


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Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:

Mistress of minis wrote:Alot of people seem to be easily confusing sexual orientation, and gender preference. Not all gay men are effeminate, nor are all lesbians feminine. Nor all the all attracted to the same personal qualities in others. Theres a myriad of, sub-labels( for lack of a better term) that are used within the GLBT communities to express how people see themselves and who they find attractive.

If you don't know the jargon, its pretty easy to figure out since alot of it is innuendo based. But, it would mean educating ones self about another culture most people prefer to avoid because they too might catch some dreadful Takei cooties.

The tranny subculture is Tzeentchian in nature by itself. I'm more fem some days and more masc others, and my preferences, both sub/dom and masc/fem, tend to nudge accordingly. It's much more a wave to be ridden than anything predictable or clear-cut though. I dress what I would call fairly gay but people still can't tell about me for sure, which absolutely reflects my extreme Bi-ness.

I know this one tranny and that led to an awkward situation.

Some girl: [tranny] if you had a [male appendage] I would suck it.
Tranny: I do.
Some Girl: *feels leg of tranny* Oh my.

Best time at the lunch table ever, which is weird seeing as though my worst time at lunch involved seeing yaoi. Scrath that,the best time at lunch was when my friend had been silent until the last minute, in which case he raised his head and yelled "I killed Mufasa." yeah, that was the best time.

halonachos wrote:
@ Dogma, I don't tell women that they're pretty, hot, or anything really. I've always been kind of 'meh' towards the whole sex thing and I really don't care about it enough compared to school or work. I believe that one should keep their preferences and experiences to themselves. I don't think its cool if some guy boasts about banging a chick while doing a handstand and I loath people who think that they should tell everyone. If the government should have no say in what happens in the sack then I don't want to know either, especially when parents are concerned.

You must be a very angry guy if that's the case.

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Zhl9MLno424" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Not everyone in conservative states chooses to act like a bigot. Theres awesome people everywhere, I just wish we saw it more often on the internet.

Mistress of minis wrote:<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Zhl9MLno424" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Not everyone in conservative states chooses to act like a bigot. Theres awesome people everywhere, I just wish we saw it more often on the internet.

This is a bit more than a few people in conservative states acting like bigots. This is State Legislation.

Also interested to see that youtube video, if you could repost it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/Zhl9MLno424[/youtube]

Ah, that's why, it's the embed version. Just use this:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/Zhl9MLno424

Monster Rain wrote:I'm way ahead of this, though.

I replace the word "gay" with the word "CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT."

I'm so CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT for CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!

Lord-Loss wrote:
I feel the same way about people who put the fact that they're gay in their info bar on websites like Facebook, it's just stupid.

So I take it you dislike people who advertise that they're straight on facebook as well?

Melissia wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/Zhl9MLno424[/youtube]

Ah, that's why, it's the embed version. Just use this:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/Zhl9MLno424

Oh wow, that's beautiful. I actually got all teary when the guy passed that note.


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Fafnir wrote:

Lord-Loss wrote:
I feel the same way about people who put the fact that they're gay in their info bar on websites like Facebook, it's just stupid.

So I take it you dislike people who advertise that they're straight on facebook as well?

This flagrant show of heterosexuality disgusts me!

Mistress of minis wrote: nor are all lesbians feminine

I don't think you'd find any disagreement with that.

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:people still can't tell about me for sure

O rly?

Fafnir wrote:

Lord-Loss wrote:
I feel the same way about people who put the fact that they're gay in their info bar on websites like Facebook, it's just stupid.

So I take it you dislike people who advertise that they're straight on facebook as well?

You can choose whether to display if you're "interested in women/men/both", there's absolutely no point in putting your sexuality in your info box/bar.

So yea, I think they're being a bit idiotic too.

Lord-Loss wrote:You can choose whether to display if you're "interested in women/men/both", there's absolutely no point in putting your sexuality in your info box/bar.

How is it ok for a man to put that he is interested in other men but if he uses the word homosexual that is crossing the line?

(Found this on google images)

By 'info box' I meant bio, that sort of thing. It seems unnessicary to put it in your bio and it makes you look like a bit of a gakker, in my opinion.

I'm not homophobic and I have no problem with gay people at all.

Lord-Loss wrote:By 'info box' I meant bio, that sort of thing. It seems unnessicary to put it in your bio and it makes you look like a bit of a gakker, in my opinion.

Unless you are willing to let gay people tell you what it means to be straight and how you should change your life and social dealings to fit their ideals better I don't think your opinion matters much.

Lord-Loss wrote:I'm not homophobic

Of course, you know, except for the ways in which you are. You just want to impose your own idea of how they should act and if they don't you'll be insulting, not beat them. I mean, you aren't vicious after all.

Lord-Loss wrote:

Fafnir wrote:

Lord-Loss wrote:
I feel the same way about people who put the fact that they're gay in their info bar on websites like Facebook, it's just stupid.

So I take it you dislike people who advertise that they're straight on facebook as well?

You can choose whether to display if you're "interested in women/men/both", there's absolutely no point in putting your sexuality in your info box/bar.

So yea, I think they're being a bit idiotic too.

Why? A person's sexuality is a very important part of their identity. Would you get offended if you saw a picture on FB of a straight couple kissing?

Lord-Loss wrote:
I'm not homophobic and I have no problem with gay people at all.

You just spent the last few posts elaborating on exactly how you do have a problem with gay people.

You're either lying to us and to yourself, about this problem you have with gay people or your apparent lack of a problem with gay people, or you just aren't particularly self-aware. In either case you should be derided.