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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 15:30:07
Subject: Best, point-for-point wise, Leman Russ
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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The Pask-Exterminator is also nice in that it's relatively points-light for a Pask tank.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 16:24:33
Subject: Best, point-for-point wise, Leman Russ
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Middle Earth
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Biophysical wrote:The Pask-Exterminator is also nice in that it's relatively points-light for a Pask tank.
That thing can be quite scary with S8 (against vehicles) TL BS4 autocannons provided it stays still
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 16:29:04
Subject: Best, point-for-point wise, Leman Russ
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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It doesn't need to sit still, it can fire on the move. Unlike the Hydra, the Exterminator's autocannons are all one weapon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 17:08:05
Subject: Best, point-for-point wise, Leman Russ
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You do lose some of Pask's effectiveness if it moves, unfortunately, which is why I never take him, personally. Some people like him, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 17:19:12
Subject: Best, point-for-point wise, Leman Russ
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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Ah, never caught the part where he has to remain stationary to use Crack Shot. I've never bothered to use him myself. I don't remember the last time I used a Russ, honestly.
I like the concept of the tank, I just don't like how it looks. Too weedy for a main battle tank. I've seen one or two conversion kits for sale that I liked the look of, but they were in the neighborhood of 50 quid a pop.
I do hope some of the spearhead rules get incorporated into the next edition (don't see why not, they encourage squadrons, which encourages buying more models), I may field them more often.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 18:48:03
Subject: Re:Best, point-for-point wise, Leman Russ
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Guardsman with Flashlight
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Squadrons would be awesome for heavy tanks if you couldn't kill all of them in CC by being in contact with only 1 model. The day they change that and the stupid immobilized rule I'll run squadrons every battle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 18:54:37
Subject: Best, point-for-point wise, Leman Russ
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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Well, they do need to change the benefit of squadroning to more than just free heavy armor. That doesn't make up for immobilized = destroyed.
It would be neat if the squadron benefit let you ignore shaken results. Then combined with extra armor, you would be able to ignore shaken/stunned (i.e. what Grey Knights get for like 5 points per vehicle). Ignoring 1s and 2s on the damage chart would make up for 4+ being death.
I doubt they will change how allocation works.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/10 21:51:49
Subject: Best, point-for-point wise, Leman Russ
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Omegus wrote:Against vehicles, you basically have four missile launchers (that hit 90% of the time), and then a slew of S6 and S5 shots, so it's all but guaranteed to obliterate one light vehicle per turn.
That's the idea yeah. 4 TL s8 shots and 3 s6, all at bs4. It takes out a speeding raider like 9 times out of 10, which I've learned to appreciate, even at 200pts. The MC rerolls help too.
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