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Fish is actually a pretty good idea. I strongly recommend Siamese Fighting Fish as pets, as they're pretty hardy and cleaner than the goldfish. I used to work at a pet store, and people would get a kid a $.25 goldfish and wonder why it died in a couple weeks. Sure, the Beta was $5 or so, but did as well if not better in a small bowl.

LunaHound wrote:

Medium of Death wrote:Your family has already given a dog away because you failed to look after it.

Now you feel you are ready because you've watched the dog whisperer?

Spoiler:

Explain how even someone like you, could have prevented that incident.

You don't leave out items that can kill a pet or a child. Its helpful to know this before you have children as well. Any kind of poison, oil based paint, fertilizers, or pesticide.

LunaHound wrote:
I play piano ( lvl 5 ) , have violin and erhu.

Its not the same as a hobby or a pet.

Oh so you make money as a musician?

Yes, playing an instrument is a hobby, unless it's a job. I really don't recommend getting a pet. It's a real life change.

Frazzled wrote:
You don't leave out items that can kill a pet or a child. Its helpful to know this before you have children as well. Any kind of poison, oil based paint, fertilizers, or pesticide.

Hobby knives, paint, paint water (when painting with metalics), super glue, and other miniature hobby supplies. Put these away in a drawer after use and shut your door if you have to leave your room. EVERY time.

4M2A wrote:I voted Dog because the amount of enjoyment i get from a pet is far more than my warhammer.

However you have to make sure you're capable of giving a dog a good life. They are expensive and very time consuming pets- they require constant attention and if anything does go wrong a vets bill will make buying models seem a lot less expensive.

I would reccomend trying out a smaller / less active pet first. I've had family dogs around my whole life and I would still be very careful about getting my own one. There are a lot of animals that make much easier pets to care for. Any pet which can be kept in a cage is much easier to look after.

What are you looking for in a pet?

A dog is ideal for me as companion for morning and night jogs. I really dont feel safe at night since Canada = trees everywhere.
Also im always alone in the house ( there was a break in before ) it really freaked me out.

So i guess it needs to be loyal and responsive to situations ( though thats my job to train it or have it trained )
It should be loving ( i heard cats choose to be out most of the day, so i dont want to imprison them lol, so no cats )

Yep.

nectarprime wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
I play piano ( lvl 5 ) , have violin and erhu.

Its not the same as a hobby or a pet.

Oh so you make money as a musician?

Yes, playing an instrument is a hobby, unless it's a job. I really don't recommend getting a pet. It's a real life change.

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hob·by
1    [hob-ee] Show IPA
–noun, plural -bies.
1.
an activity or interest pursued for pleasure or relaxation and not as a main occupation
2.
a child's hobbyhorse.
3.
Archaic . a small horse.

Nope, me playing instrument does not fall under any of those descriptions.
So not a hobby.

LunaHound wrote:

nectarprime wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
I play piano ( lvl 5 ) , have violin and erhu.

Its not the same as a hobby or a pet.

Oh so you make money as a musician?

Yes, playing an instrument is a hobby, unless it's a job. I really don't recommend getting a pet. It's a real life change.

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hob·by
1    [hob-ee] Show IPA
–noun, plural -bies.
1.
an activity or interest pursued for pleasure or relaxation and not as a main occupation
2.
a child's hobbyhorse.
3.
Archaic . a small horse.

Nope, me playing instrument does not fall under any of those descriptions.
So not a hobby.

So you get no pleasure from playing an instrument? Then why do it?

Frazzled wrote:You don't leave out items that can kill a pet or a child. Its helpful to know this before you have children as well. Any kind of poison, oil based paint, fertilizers, or pesticide.

Yes :'/

Warhammer is awesome. You can build a social life around it. Without Warhammer you can socialize by... ah... talking about work and drinking lemonade or something. Or watching movies, I guess, which is not social, really. Or... eating... food.

Boring!

Dogs are a LOT of money. Try hundreds of dollars a year. Warhammer is only money when you CHOOSE to buy new models. Nothing stops you from just playing with what you have. But if your dog suddenly needs a $1000 vet visit, whaddyagonnado? Not go?

That's my point.

You know what costs even MORE money? Old dogs. The kind that suddenly need constant healthcare. Puppykins has arthritus? Or kittypie has lieukemia? Guess what? Get your wallet ready. Because that's the responsibility you signed up for when you brought the animal home.

Peace!
Solorg

kronk wrote:

Frazzled wrote:
You don't leave out items that can kill a pet or a child. Its helpful to know this before you have children as well. Any kind of poison, oil based paint, fertilizers, or pesticide.

Hobby knives, paint, paint water (when painting with metalics), super glue, and other miniature hobby supplies. Put these away in a drawer after use and shut your door if you have to leave your room. EVERY time.

Shutting the door works perfectly, unless you have a dog that chews through doors. Unfortunately, I have experienced this scenario three times already, which has contributed greatly to my general dislike of dogs.

My neighbor's friend ran over my father's English Bulldog in his driveway. $4000 and a few months later and she's good as new.

nectarprime wrote:So you get no pleasure from playing an instrument? Then why do it?

Is that a serious question?

It's a logical question, considering you defined a hobby and then said that playing an instrument isn't one.

Unless you were saying that playing an instrument isn't a small horse.

Hmm guess American families are different.

But cant be that rare that it cant be guessed?

LunaHound wrote:Hmm guess American families are different.

But cant be that rare that it cant be guessed?

Its a simple definitional issue.

1. Do you get paid to play an instrument(s)?
2. If not, are you in a school band?
3. If neither A or B is accurate, its a hobby. You can be psycho obsessed with it and brilliant like BB King, but it remains an amateur (for the love of the game) hobby.

Dogs can be social too. Since we got our dog, back in November, we know a lot more people in our neighborhood. The dog needs to socialize with other dogs, so walks are scheduled with other neighbors who also have dogs that get along. Dogs need time to just run. We've got one of the larger yards, and it's not uncommon for someone else to bring their dog over to play in our yard, and watch them tear around for a while.

But, as mentioned, they're expensive too. Obedience classes are $20/week. Food, treats, toys - and puppies go through toys ridiculously fast - all adds up. My wife and I both work, so there's a dog walker who comes in for a lunchtime peebreak and walk. We have pet insurance too ($35/month, covers any serious problem, but not routine vet visits).

They're a lot of fun, but they're needy and expensive too. He's one of the reasons I find it funny how people say toy soldiers are expensive.

Frazzled wrote:

LunaHound wrote:Hmm guess American families are different.

But cant be that rare that it cant be guessed?

Its a simple definitional issue.

1. Do you get paid to play an instrument(s)?
2. If not, are you in a school band?
3. If neither A or B is accurate, its a hobby. You can be psycho obsessed with it and brilliant like BB King, but it remains an amateur (for the love of the game) hobby.

4. I have to because it looks good as an accessory for parents.

Redbeard wrote:Dogs can be social too. Since we got our dog, back in November, we know a lot more people in our neighborhood. The dog needs to socialize with other dogs, so walks are scheduled with other neighbors who also have dogs that get along. Dogs need time to just run. We've got one of the larger yards, and it's not uncommon for someone else to bring their dog over to play in our yard, and watch them tear around for a while.

But, as mentioned, they're expensive too. Obedience classes are $20/week. Food, treats, toys - and puppies go through toys ridiculously fast - all adds up. My wife and I both work, so there's a dog walker who comes in for a lunchtime peebreak and walk. We have pet insurance too ($35/month, covers any serious problem, but not routine vet visits).

They're a lot of fun, but they're needy and expensive too. He's one of the reasons I find it funny how people say toy soldiers are expensive.

But the value and worth of a living creature cant be compared to inanimate toys >.< even though they might be both fun.
So i still think toy soldier is expensive

Redbeard wrote:Dogs can be social too. Since we got our dog, back in November, we know a lot more people in our neighborhood. The dog needs to socialize with other dogs, so walks are scheduled with other neighbors who also have dogs that get along. Dogs need time to just run. We've got one of the larger yards, and it's not uncommon for someone else to bring their dog over to play in our yard, and watch them tear around for a while.

Definitely. LunaHound, if you do end up getting a dog, please be serious about socializing it! make sure once it's old enough (10 weeks is recommended by many) it gets to be handled by and play with as many different people and dogs as possible.

I also credit the dog for helping my general health. In addition to controlling my diet, I've lost a ton of weight in part due to walking the dog several times a day.

Redbeard wrote:But, as mentioned, they're expensive too. Obedience classes are $20/week. Food, treats, toys - and puppies go through toys ridiculously fast - all adds up. My wife and I both work, so there's a dog walker who comes in for a lunchtime peebreak and walk. We have pet insurance too ($35/month, covers any serious problem, but not routine vet visits).

They're a lot of fun, but they're needy and expensive too. He's one of the reasons I find it funny how people say toy soldiers are expensive.

Also agreed. As has been said, it's also an unexpected expense... Dog eats something it shouldn't and it gets stuck, it's a sudden several hundred dollar bill.

LunaHound wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

LunaHound wrote:Hmm guess American families are different.

But cant be that rare that it cant be guessed?

Its a simple definitional issue.

1. Do you get paid to play an instrument(s)?
2. If not, are you in a school band?
3. If neither A or B is accurate, its a hobby. You can be psycho obsessed with it and brilliant like BB King, but it remains an amateur (for the love of the game) hobby.

4. I have to because it looks good as an accessory for parents.

Thats ablinding not answer, which itself answers it. If you were making money you'd say so. Its a hobby. Why is this so hard for you to answer without the faux emo drama statements? Jeez teenagers tire me out.
My boy does percussion in band. It is school and an obsession, and in the future may lead to excellent employment prospects, but is not a job currently.

Screw dogs. Get a Cobra.

DrownedRat117 wrote:Screw dogs. Get a Cobra.

Rodney the Shanker is 4-0 on the weiner dog vs. snake pit fighting challenge, even so far as to do a drive by on a rattler that surprised me, Tbone, and Genghis Connie. Thats a good dog!

If you're getting a reptile get an iguana, just because they struck me as epic cool. Plus, when I was on my honeymoon in Mexico, sitting by the bay and a wild ignuana just climbed up on my arm and sunned himself for a good thirty minutes before moseying on. You da man lizard boyyyy.

This thread has gone to the funny! So get this dog!!!




-MightyG

Frazzled wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

LunaHound wrote:Hmm guess American families are different.

But cant be that rare that it cant be guessed?

Its a simple definitional issue.

1. Do you get paid to play an instrument(s)?
2. If not, are you in a school band?
3. If neither A or B is accurate, its a hobby. You can be psycho obsessed with it and brilliant like BB King, but it remains an amateur (for the love of the game) hobby.

4. I have to because it looks good as an accessory for parents.

Thats ablinding not answer, which itself answers it. If you were making money you'd say so. Its a hobby. Why is this so hard for you to answer without the faux emo drama statements? Jeez teenagers tire me out.
My boy does percussion in band. It is school and an obsession, and in the future may lead to excellent employment prospects, but is not a job currently.

So....

an activity or interest pursued for pleasure or relaxation and not as a main occupation

You are saying, as long as i do an activity thats not an occupation, despite it not been pleasuring or relaxing , its still categorized as hobby?

It wasnt faux emo, i just thought my situation didnt even fit 50% of that description.

I lolled. Damn kids.

Voted for Warhammer.

I've never had pets and I'm allergic to cats. But if I ever have a pet, it would be a dog. An adopted dog, not a bought one. There are many puppies over there wich need a home, and wich probable are more willing to be grateful to their owners, compared to some expensive bad-mannered furries I've seen.

And you don't need to sell anything to adopt one!

nectarprime wrote:I lolled.

After PM discussion with Luna, I get whats she's trying to say. Its a required school/parent activity. Lets move on as its not perquiiste to the topic and I now demand pics of dogs drinking from water hoses!

nectarprime wrote:I lolled. Damn kids.

Whats so funny and whats wrong with kids?

Please elaborate because i dont understand.

As a musician, I'd like to say that it's a shame that kids see music as a chore... it's such a huge, great part of my life, and I honestly feel sad that others are not as fortunate.

/OT

What about pics of dogs who've been playing in the mud?