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Frazzled wrote:Oh, whats that? Oh yes I've been reminded by Team Wienie to caution you that cats are pure evil, and not the good kind of evil.

Yep, they're MY kind of evil.

**sigh** my dog is currently lying on my bed, fast asleep, head on my pillow. I think I may spoil him slightly.

Nah.

Yeah, when life gets busy, I can put my minis in a box and shelf my paints and simply 'not go game' on conflicting times.

Dogs... well it is like owning a 1 year old that never grows up. You always have to plan around him, take care of him, feed him and it changes your fundamental way you live your life. Sure it can be rewarding, but it isn't quite the same.

If you are already planning to change your life to accommodate a dog and it is simply a financial thing, then yes, you might want to stop wargaming or sell stuff to cover the initial cost of adopting a dog. But make sure it is a Dog you want and not simply 'the idea of a dog'.

If you get a Dog, do your research on what kind of breed you get. Better yet, go to the Local Shelter and pick up a dog that will love you forever if you do.

But your life will change, if you get an Animal, so be prepared for that.

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Not trying to drop any hints, but getting a Labrador puppy would be a good idea. But seriously, going on holidays that they dog can't come too for more than a few days sin't going to happen often. At all.

Sasori wrote: Better yet, go to the Local Shelter and pick up a dog that will love you forever if you do.

This should be set in stone. There are thousands of abandoned animals out there in cages, waiting for an owner who will take care of them.

spookman wrote:Being a person who doesn't really like dogs, I wouldn't get one anyway, but If you want a dog, do both. (but remember- you can go on holiday and leave miniatures behind without them dying)

Unless they are finecast and you leave them in a window somewhere

No one seems to have mentioned trhe cost of owning a dog.

The food is one thing but insurance and vets bills from whatever jabs you have to get in are one thing but when the little scamp actually gets ill. It can be quite allot.

It may not be as cheap as yo imagine.

Now if you had of said Cat vs Warhammer thats easy.

Those evil manupulative ponces don't even compare to the joy that you get from those happy little tykes at games workshop.

Anyway just remember a dog is for life (it's probably) and not just for Christmas, were as Warhammer is also for life or I you play for a much shorter undefined period depending on whenever GW revise the rules.

You pays your money..........

I say pet. Maybe not a dog, not saying dogs aren't great; other pets can be just as rewarding. I had a canary that would whistle to Police albums, and would screech anytime someone would play some pop tartlet's music. It also never tried to chew on any of my models or bat at the dice as a friend and I were playing (which describes some of my cats' antics).

While that may seem to support Team Weinie's view on the evil nature of cats, they have yet to destroy as much terrain or models as my friend's dog. Perhaps we can look on them as misunderstood monsters ala the Godzilla/Gamorah model.

While pet ownership is a serious issue, I think that we put more stock in criticizing would-be pet owners than we do parents. I work in a outlet retail store that sells items that were turned away from second hand stores for not being of good enough quality and/or safe. Customers let their toddlers run about unattended all the time, often watching the 'younger' siblings they have with them. Many of the things we have include knives, sharp edges, and broken glass. Yet, I hear more criticism of someone thinking about getting a pet than I do any of the parents in a given year.

To put this in a more positive light, I would be disturbed if the post was "Just got a dog today, was this a good idea or not?". I think most of us posting here have the wherewith-all to rise to the occasion of pet-ownership. Imagine what great modellers we would all be if our models could make sounds indicating what they like and dislike. "Who's a golden daemon? Who's a golden daemon? That's right, you're my golden daemon."

Dogs should not be allowed to eat warhammer models. They will try though.





I don't know why you can't do both.

My friend's dog is like a 5 year old. He's smart enough to know that he's not supposed to eat terrain or models, but savvy enough to keep that thought that he wants to in his head. He will try every trick in the book to get at them, if he's in a mind to do so.

Mostly, we just keep have a second or third about to keep him busy while we play. Also, finding better, more secure, hiding places for hobby materials was a much more necessary and useful step. He just about has a handle on door-knobs.

@MGS, Redbeard:
Its hard for me to do both, as i mentioned i dont have too many places to game at anymore. So in a way, im looking for an excuse to get myself out of this hobby.
I do find the hobby fun and enjoy it, but as MGS mentioned, i have zero loyalties to my army and my projects.
Because i cant really game with it anymore, i lose interest or focus on them over time, or till the next shinny thing catches my interest.

That and i feel my time and effort invested into the hobby cant yield any results.
All the time i spend on assembling , prepping, and occasionally painting, and due to GW's senseless pricing on GW Canada,
i get nothing for those work i did. In fact it actually lowers the value people offers :'<
Sometimes i get happy looking at the stuff i've finished, then reality sets in as when i try to sell it online, no one buys it. Then it hits me like im either delusional or a fool.

I know dogs cannot be compared to warhamer / hobby. The only reason i placed them side by side ( sorry :x) Is i plan on getting it without my mom's agreement.
She should have no complaints if i use the money i spent on "toys" on a dog instead, instead of actual savings.

I had a dog a long time ago, my dad bought it for guarding purpose since back then only me and my mom live alone as hes always in another country.
one day it ate a bag of mom's slug killer. When i came home i couldnt find it, eventually i found it hidden under a rose bush which i initially thought his collar was tangled with the bush ,
then i realized he was convulsing , no doubt from the poison, in a pool of mud and probably pee. It was a rainy day i'll never forget, he was so heavy as i carried it and ran knocking from door to door calling for help.
Eventually someone was home and drove us to the pet hospital, which the doctor said his chance of surviving is only 30% , even if he lives there is 90% he will suffer from permanent brain damage.

Thank god though, in 2 days it recovered, and was more energetic than ever. But that incident, we had to give the dog away.

Back then, i was blamed for the incident, though i dont think the slug bait should be left in the open either. I dont know, i accepted that it was my lack of care that this happened.
But for so many years now, and from watching the dog wisperer 2 episodes per day, i feel im ready to give it another try.

Your family has already given a dog away because you failed to look after it.

Now you feel you are ready because you've watched the dog whisperer?

lord_blackfang wrote:If you're considering buying a living creature as a hobby replacement for Warhammer, please don't.

Indeed.


But if you want to own a dog to have a great bond with an animal and have a companion that will always love you back, please do.
I would never trade my cat for any amount of models, my warhammer models just won't crawl into my arms at 2:00 and start purring because they want love and warmth.


Luna from what you said what happened to your dog was an accident, and even if it was your fault I'm pretty sure you have grown up since all those years.
In the end only you know if you can care for a living creature, if you can it is very rewarding, but if you neglect the animal you will see it suffer and you will have to endure it - it is not a good experience.

Medium of Death wrote:Your family has already given a dog away because you failed to look after it.

Now you feel you are ready because you've watched the dog whisperer?

Spoiler:

Explain how even someone like you, could have prevented that incident.

Hey Luna, just move out here to Southern Ontario, No matter where you live in Southern Ontario, there's a gaming store less then two hours away! And the closer you live to the shores of Lake Ontario, even close to stores. I live in Hamilton, and I know of at least 6 within an hour drive to me, and 2 of those are within 20 minutes! Not to mention there's also a lot of other places that sell a little cheaper(even if they don't have enough space in the store for gaming)

Either decision you make, you seem set that it is one or the other.

Which would you prefer to have?

Dog.

Or a bird ( i like birds but i dont like they cant be potty trained )

I would even settle for a $20 lizard .But it ended in disaster last time.

It would all depend on what army he/she played! More of a cat person myself but if you want a dog and would be able to care for it as much as it needs, get a dog. Get a cat. Hours of fun trying to work out if the cat is thinking you're stupid, why it only appears when there is food on offer and leaves soon after, on a cold night why won't it come in while you freeze your ass off shouting on it, yeah get a dog instead...

I dont know what to think about cats, stray cats seems nicer to me than friend's cats. I used to play pull their tail or poke them when they are under the cars to hide from heat.

But my friend's cats scratches me if i sit on the sofa or if i try to pet them -_-

LunaHound wrote:Dog.

Or a bird ( i like birds but i dont like they cant be potty trained )

I would even settle for a $20 lizard .But it ended in disaster last time.

I'm agreeing with MGS. You should not get a pet at this point in your life. You're a bit too flighty for proper pet care. These are living beings, and not hobbies. Thats ok, if I recollect you're abit of a kid and thats normal.

LunaHound wrote:I would even settle for a $20 lizard .But it ended in disaster last time.

Depending on the nature of the "disaster", I would say that this is evidence that you should not get a dog under any circumstances.

Monster Rain wrote:

LunaHound wrote:I would even settle for a $20 lizard .But it ended in disaster last time.

Depending on the nature of the disaster, I would say that this is evidence that you should not get a dog under any circumstances.

Not fair, should hear the details first -_-

someone opened the lid and the feeder crickets escaped.

i hate crickets, not as much as spiders, but i see crickets along the line of roaches ( in the ugly factor )

I would honestly pass on a pet. Pick up a musical instrument.

LunaHound wrote:

Medium of Death wrote:Your family has already given a dog away because you failed to look after it.

Now you feel you are ready because you've watched the dog whisperer?

Spoiler:

Explain how even someone like you, could have prevented that incident.

Not to be too pointed about ana ccident in the past, but Crate training is a pretty good option. Dogs aren't real well equipped to deal with all the weird stuff humans put in their environments. it really is like having a small child around: everything goes in their mouth, they sometimes seem to try to kill themselves out of misplaced curiosity, etc.

An unexpected vet bill can make a Warhammer army look cheap.

If you're not the one in control of your living conditions, adding a pet is not something I'd recommend doing without everyone involved being OK with the idea.

I love my dog, but he's a lot of work for me and my girlfriend. The first few months I was run ragged as I drove home at lunch time (half hour each way) to give him a break. Long lunches, plus that doubled my gas bills for a couple months. Now he's still at the point where I have to balance 'my' time with 'his' time. I regualrly sit down to do something at home and have to stop to take care of him be it a call of nature or just playtime.

LunaHound wrote:
Explain how even someone like you, could have prevented that incident.

Not leaving a bag of poisonous substance lying around is a good start...

Medium of Death wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
Explain how even someone like you, could have prevented that incident.

Not leaving a bag of poisonous substance lying around is a good start...

I cant check what my mom puts in the garden 24/7 , i can only warn her not to place anything dangerous near where the dog had access to, which i did.
Infact she placed it there at lunch time, which i came home after school when it happend. Which was within 3 hours.

So yes, thank you for advise, wait, no.


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nectarprime wrote:I would honestly pass on a pet. Pick up a musical instrument.

I play piano ( lvl 5 ) , have violin and erhu.

Its not the same as a hobby or a pet.

LunaHound wrote:

Medium of Death wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
Explain how even someone like you, could have prevented that incident.

Not leaving a bag of poisonous substance lying around is a good start...

I cant check what my mom puts in the garden 24/7 , i can only warn her not to place anything dangerous near where the dog had access to, which i did.
Infact she placed it there at lunch time, which i came home after school when it happend. Which was within 3 hours.

So yes, thank you for advise, wait, no.

Sounds like your mother isn't responsible enough for a pet. Just kids.

Man. This is one train wreck of a thread. Don't get a dog, please. Or a cat. Get a fish, if you must have a pet, but don't put the bowl too close to the stove.

I'm glad my advise is not wasted on deaf ears...

Bye...

I voted Dog because the amount of enjoyment i get from a pet is far more than my warhammer.

However you have to make sure you're capable of giving a dog a good life. They are expensive and very time consuming pets- they require constant attention and if anything does go wrong a vets bill will make buying models seem a lot less expensive.

I would reccomend trying out a smaller / less active pet first. I've had family dogs around my whole life and I would still be very careful about getting my own one. There are a lot of animals that make much easier pets to care for. Any pet which can be kept in a cage is much easier to look after.

What are you looking for in a pet?