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NAVARRO wrote:
I really don't know from what forums you come from but he actually expressed a opinion totally on topic about the GAME we are talking about here, thats considerably more than I can say from you... So yes he was polite expressed a quick opinion and thats much more appreciated than your constant search for conflicts...

My intention isn't to start a conflict; I don't think there's any need to reference GW or Dreadfleet here. They have no bearing on the announcent of this game.

I think Sodapop game is going to be a huge hit and its really a joy to see so many new games this year... Super dungeon explore, Puppet wars, Gears of war, Dreadfleet etc etc... What a crazy year.

Agree. Don't forget all the D&D dungeon crawlers Wizards released this year too. I'm sure the Drizzt one will be a hit.

I think SDE has a anime edge and thats very cool and from the reports I've read its more fun to play than IMO its great contender the WYRD Puppet wars one so It will be interesting to see how these games evolve.

I'll assume you haven't played either of the games, but the consesus from a competely unofficiall poll I took at GenCon indicated that Puppet Wars was, on the whole, disappointing. SDE, on the other hand, received really high praise (we happened to see a student my wife teaches and her family, and the entire family LOVED SDE).

I'm still a bit miffed about how long the game got pushed back--mostly because my wife was interested in playing it-- but am still looking forward to it very much.

Soda Pop is a fairly young and small company. I can forgive them for a few months delay in such a big project.

Kilkrazy wrote:Soda Pop is a fairly young and small company. I can forgive them for a few months delay in such a big project.

It was SUPPOSED to be available for sale at GenCon, though. Then at GenCon we were told that Pre-Orders should arrive the first week of September. Then I received a confirmation stating my copy was shipping and should arrive by Sept 15. Then I got the email saying it was pushed back until the 2nd week of November. That's when I requested a refund. I had no idea if it would continue to get delayed. That was my biggest issue.

I'm still going to buy a copy. I'm also very excited for the Relic Knights official rules. The situation was just very Duke Nukem 3Dish... that's all.

Anyone that tried the game before... is it complex? would it be something an 11 year old kid could play? Or would they lack the attention span to pick it up and just go play with their Wii's instead?

Looking for a good xmas present for my nephew, he's pretty smart (I think) but a game like 40K will be too much for him especially even though he always seems interested in my models.. trying to find a good intro-to-wargames kind of game for him to start with and play with his friends and slowly turn into nerd like me. Also, I get the idea this game won't have as much scantly-clad girls in it like their other models? seems more kid-friendly from the brief glimpses I had...

cincydooley wrote:It was SUPPOSED to be available for sale at GenCon, though. Then at GenCon we were told that Pre-Orders should arrive the first week of September. Then I received a confirmation stating my copy was shipping and should arrive by Sept 15. Then I got the email saying it was pushed back until the 2nd week of November. That's when I requested a refund. I had no idea if it would continue to get delayed. That was my biggest issue.

While the repeated delays suck, it's not that uncommon for a new product, particularly when there are a bunch of disparate components that all have to come together. Sounds like they at least did a pretty good job of keeping everyone informed as to what was going on...

terrainguy wrote:

NAVARRO wrote:Best of luck with the sales, I read the TTGN announcement by CMON and assumed super dungeon explore ltd miniature on the preorders was a CMON exclusive?

For now it's a preorder exclusive, but not a CMON one.

Are companies like Maelstrom Games also including the figure? They don't mention it on their site. (Not sure if it is US only bonus.) Thank you.

insaniak wrote:While the repeated delays suck, it's not that uncommon for a new product, particularly when there are a bunch of disparate components that all have to come together. Sounds like they at least did a pretty good job of keeping everyone informed as to what was going on...

Exactly. Catalyst Game Labs went through this with the BattleTech Introductory Boxed set, with several months of delays. At the most recent GenCon they went through it again with their Leviathans boxed set. FFG had some delays with their 40K RPG products.

These sorts of things are normal... and comparing them to Duke 3D is a mighty exaggeration.

will the people who pre-ordered their games at Gen Con get their box sets any quicker? I am hopeful but I understand they come in on the same boat...

Do pre orders get anything special? or just earlier delivery?

cincydooley wrote:
I'll assume you haven't played either of the games, but the consesus from a competely unofficiall poll I took at GenCon indicated that Puppet Wars was, on the whole, disappointing. SDE, on the other hand, received really high praise (we happened to see a student my wife teaches and her family, and the entire family LOVED SDE).

I'm still a bit miffed about how long the game got pushed back--mostly because my wife was interested in playing it-- but am still looking forward to it very much.

Yeah I haven't played any of those but have been keeping track on both for some time now... Gen con reports etc. We european chaps still cant get our hands on both games... Wyrd one was to be released a couple weeks ago? But still on pre order and Sodapop one also still on pre order.
From the distant reviews I managed to see that one of the games has some of the coolest minis released and the other has the better rules and boards etc, so I'm going to struggle a lot before I make the final decision.

As for delays, well I think that a company of the size and young age of Sodapop venturing himself into the world of the so expensive plastic production really complicates making accurate timing estimates... I always take my hat to these companies that have the talent and the courage to create such professional games and minis.

There is a limited edition adventurer model, based on their Candy mascot figure.

It is not clear if this applies to US orders only.

Fine KK, I'll just ask...

terrainguy wrote:Hello everyone I'm excited to announce that Super Dungeon Explore is on a boat and chugging it's way to us. That means it's time for preorders!

I am really excited for this game. I live in Australia. Will I get the pre-order bonus miniature, or is that for US orders only.

If you preorder through our website then yes you'll definitely get the miniature. We understand that shipping is expensive to our nonUS customers (the box clocks in at almost 5lbs), because of that Candy and Cola will be available seperately on our website after the launch of the game, in addition to pre-orders.

We are also making it available to retailers during the preorder period, so inquire with your local game store, they should be getting notification of this program shortly.

NAVARRO wrote:
Yeah I haven't played any of those but have been keeping track on both for some time now... Gen con reports etc. We european chaps still cant get our hands on both games... Wyrd one was to be released a couple weeks ago? But still on pre order and Sodapop one also still on pre order.
From the distant reviews I managed to see that one of the games has some of the coolest minis released and the other has the better rules and boards etc, so I'm going to struggle a lot before I make the final decision.

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The Puppet Wars minis are indeed very cool; the gameplay just really left a lot to be desired. I'd totally buy some of the minis if they offered them in blisters, but not in the present boxed set format.

As for SDE playability - An 11 would absolutely love this game, especially if you introduce him to some old skool Zelda too. My wife, who isn't a huge gamer, LOVED this game at GenCon, and learned the rules very easy. Further, there are video game buttons on the cards, so I imagine a lot of kids will be able to relate to it even more due to that.

Any Pictures of the gameset up?

As for new bigheads, any new ones, yet? And how about expansions? Will thier be expansions with other monsters in that sort of... style?

How does the Druid turn into Angry Bear?

[EDIT]: Son of a... $55 shipping. Youch! Ok, I can wait for Candy & Cola to be made available via the website. In the meantime, off to Maelstrom for $0 shipping costs...

Will Candy and Cola be available for a WHILE on the website, or just for "as long as the figures last"? I have the game on order already, but not from Soda Pop directly. But, me want the chibi Cola!

And.. are the figures that got released earlier as nifty promos the same scale and the same figure that the game contains?

Ok, ordered. Hopefully it won't take too long to get copies to the UK, so they can send it to me in Australia.

Very round about way to do things I know...

Candy and Cola will be available for a while on the website. You should have plenty of opportunity to get yourself one.

Scale of the promos is a bit tricky of a question. If you're referring to our con exclusive promo models that were available over a year ago at Gencon and PAX then the answer is "no". Those models were just promo items and are larger than the actual game pieces. If you're referring to the metal models we had available for sale over the last year so that you could play the demo then "yes" the scale is the same.

There will definitely be expansions of different types -- models, gameplay, etc but right now we're still focused on delivering the initial experience to everyone. All in good time!

The Druid may shapeshift into Angry Bear for one action point (and vice versa) provided there is enough room to fit his base.

I was mainly asking about the metal models over the last year.. so that is nice.

Are they the same as the characters in the box in plastic?

(or, will my daemonkin rogue be all sorts of special...lol)

Whoa! Looks awesome... and just in time for Christmas

I dearly hope you don't run out, as I'll be trying to get my wife interested in getting me this for the holidays (hoping she might try to play it with me, too).

I am really psyched for it! I didn't realize there even was a druid, turning into a bear sounds awesome (is there a model?).

I'm guessing it's still the same general idea as was showcased before, a band of explorers fighting a lot of rat-like things?

Also, way to go with the plastic and keeping the cost down . Look attractively priced for what's included! Is 50 miniatures an actual 50 chibi-type models?

Looking forward to more pics and thanks for addressing any of these questions

Grot 6 wrote:Any Pictures of the gameset up?

As for new bigheads, any new ones, yet? And how about expansions? Will thier be expansions with other monsters in that sort of... style?

At GenCon they had the first proposed expansion on display. I have a picture of it somewhere in my GenCon photos, and I'll try and find it. Anyways, it contained IIRC 3 new heroes and new bad guys that looked like the koopa troopa from Mario, on their shells looked grown from rock. They were very cool looking.

This game looks all kinds of fun, and I've been waiting for it since I first saw the minis. Looks like I know what I'll be spending my overtime bonus on this month!

porkuslime wrote:I was mainly asking about the metal models over the last year.. so that is nice.

Are they the same as the characters in the box in plastic?

(or, will my daemonkin rogue be all sorts of special...lol)

I am also curious about this.

I got confirmation from Malestrom that their pre-orders of SDE will not have the bonus Candy/Cola model included. This is because the models are not coming from the distributor.

Kilkrazy wrote:I got confirmation from Malestrom that their pre-orders of SDE will not have the bonus Candy/Cola model included. This is because the models are not coming from the distributor.

Thanks for that

OK, just got email from Maelstrom that my UK order has been despatched.

Ditto. Mine's on its way as well.

Now we have to find out when Soda Pop will be putting Candy & Cola on the webstore.

She should be up early December. We're still cranking her out to keep up on preorders, then we'll have to build a solid enough stock to offer her separately again.

Sounds great. Thanks for the update.

terrainguy wrote:She should be up early December. We're still cranking her out to keep up on preorders, then we'll have to build a solid enough stock to offer her separately again.

Good, because my US based pre-order is going to my brother for his Christmas present and I need a Candy&Cola model for my UK based set.