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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/26 23:33:10
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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Imperial guard all the way. The story could follow a. Young commissar in a begining clip where he's forced to execute a sergeant to rally the troops and push though an orc horde, perhaps cameos by yarrick and the battle of armageddon, who personally commends the young commissar for his bravery amd has him transfered to a platoon command unit on another world fighting tyranids. Once he arrives he realizes the olatoon commander Is a child hood friend who is fighting with limited resources yatta yatta fight for survival, while trying to keep their honor for the emperor and have their past conflict their judgements.
Oh man this has tons of human drama and destruction and war written all over It !! Lmao.. but seriously.. cool eh?
Edit: marine reinforcements could come in the end. I mean all in all marines kicking ass is awesome regardless and would be a cool ending on a movie centered around normal humans.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/27 00:20:57
Subject: Re:Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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The Horus Heresy would be a fantastic way to really pull in audiences. It is a great story, classically inspired by archetype themes (and religious ones), so most people can easily pick up on it. It can be many episodes, expanding the universe, introducing orks, xenos, nids, along the way as the Imperium struggles with civil war. Develop characters that plot, back stab and betray, and characters that play both sides so they can favor whoever wins. Then of course you have the good versus evil theme. Slowly introduce the Warp and the realms and creatures of Chaos. So back stories of whole marine chapters betraying the Emperor for power.
Hell, tell histories of major characters in flash backs, and their relations. Have a very dark, Gothic, almost dystopian feel to it.
I mean I think that is the best place to start. Great story, great theme, and it can introduce everyone into the 40K universe with possibilities of spin offs after the series ends.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/27 01:49:46
Subject: Re:Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Yeah, right..
After the last one sold so well and was so welcomed and adored by critics and fans alike, they should do a docu-drama on the life cycle of the Ork fungus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/27 01:56:39
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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If they do another movie, at least go for more variation than Space Marines vs Spikey Space Marines.
There's plenty of big battles against Xenos they can make some good action movies out of that would be more interesting tham, yet again, armoured mans fighting armoured mans.
If it were Battle for Macragge, I'd be preordering as soon as it was available.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/27 02:06:49
Subject: Re:Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Sinewy Scourge
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I like the Horus Heresy idea. Definently add some background plus it would use alot of good archtypes...betray, religion, war, families being ripped apart by said war.
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d3m01iti0n wrote:
BT uses the Codex Astartes as toilet paper. They’re an Imp Fist successor, recruit from multiple planets, and are known to be the largest Chapter in the galaxy. They’re on a constant Crusade, keeping it real for the Emperor and not bumming around like the other guys. They hate psykers and can’t ally with them. They’re basically an entire chapter of Chaplains. CC lunatics. What every Space Marine should aspire to be, if not trapped in a Matt Ward nightmare.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/27 04:23:28
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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An IG movie would do so much more to make the SM the actual space bad asses that they're supposed to be. What seems more impressive, following a group of guys in armor who kill stuff, or following normal humans as they struggle through the hell of war in which they are hopelessly outmatched, and suddenly, the drop pods come hurdling down, out pour marines in pristine armor, doing in moments what guards might do in hours? I feel that the marines shouldn't be the focus, but should be the big damn heroes that save the day.
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Guardsmen, Fire!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/27 06:34:15
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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and then all of us IG players can say "Dammed Astartes, always stealing the glory"
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Imperial Guard 43rd Royal Fareldian have been Corrupted by she who thirsts
8 wins 4 draws 10 losses
Considering or
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/27 16:10:37
Subject: Re:Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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im2randomghgh wrote:iproxtaco wrote:No thanks. Twilight fans already have their movie wish fulfilled.
Utterly one-dimensional. How about a chapter that has a flaw? Like the Blood Angels, or Flesh Tearers, a Chapter that a wider audience would enjoy, if they want loyalist Space Marines. Night Lords for traitors. Or, how about a movie that follows a book? Soul Hunter anyone? Or an Imperial Guard movie, with properly handled humans mixed in with Space Marines in hopeless battle against the Orkz?
Oh, because space marines who mutate into werewolves and have distended jaws and fangs aren't flawed? And you were complaining about one-dimensional, and then mentioned guard fighting orks -_- then most common, predictable type of battle in the 41st millenium. `orks come, guard holds out for backup`
It HAS to be sm vs. Xenos, it HAS to be a loyalist chapter (so they can yell FOR THE EMPRAH) and it is definitely going to be either first founding or second founding marines.
I hope it has a bigger budget than the last one, since the last one was short, predictable and with fairly poor animation (all the motions looked choppy)
Here's a little bit of clarification. Space Wolves aren't flawed like the Blood Angels or Flesh Tearers, not even close. Both of these chapters are struggling to do their duty against their affliction, the Black Rage and Red Thirst. Whilst the Blood Angels are proud and noble, their successor is a bunch of blood craving lunatics that kill either friend of foe, with a Chapter Master who is fighting valiantly to keep his Chapter together. There's none of that hopelessness with the Space Wolves. Their Werewolf affliction isn't anywhere near as prevalent or problematic as the Black Rage or Red Thirst. Currently, they're a bunch of wolf obsessed anti-establishment savages, who kill first and ask questions later. They're your typical action hero, so to speak, you don't want them in a movie with any depth or actual quality.
There's a wealth of books about the 40k universe. Why not use them as a base? Soul Hunter is a book I recently enjoyed, I think it would make a great movie, centering around the bitterness of the Night Lords, their quest for vengeance and their hopeless situation. Even then, they're still Marines, and unless given proper development, interaction with non-humans and other Astartes, and some out of battle screen time, they're utterly one-dimensional, no one can relate to a Super Human God without any worries, fears or ordinary feelings. This is where the Guard step in. It's obvious that people want War to be the central theme, without it I would think that 40k would be boring as hell. So, plonk an Imperial Guard regiment, taken from their home planet, given months of rigorous training a la Full Metal Jacket, which as already been mentioned, and them put them in a hopeless situation against Chaos, where the alternative, of an eternity of service to thankless masters, can be seen. Emphasize the grimdark, but portray the Space Marines from the human perspective, having them accomplish mighty deeds a normal human can only dream of. Or pit the Guard against Orkz in a similar situation, highlighting the threat that the Xenos plays in 40k. It doesn't have to be solely about Space Marines, because that's just boring, frankly. Space Marines should feature, but never be the center of attention in a film where there's so little time to expand their character. In a series of short films, it might me doable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/28 15:53:52
Subject: Re:Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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IMHO it really doesnt matter who, or what you right about, in regards to your protagonist/antagonist.
what you need are High quality models, a good render engine, people that know what they are doing when dealing with human models, and a great story line.
get the High Lord Inquisitor guy some money for putting together a great product (something he is already doing for free) bring in some Modeleers/animators that will show the environment for 40k and then do 10 min shorts (similar to Cartoon Networks first iteration of the Clone Wars by Genndy Tartakovsky) get the Sci-Fi channel to pick it up for peanuts and watch the money roll in.
If you get the same company that released a crappy product the first time, what makes GW think they are going to release a quality product the second time?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/28 20:37:31
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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It's odd that noon want to see SoB in movie?
How cool it would be to see sexy female warriors in blood-thirsty action?
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/28 20:50:50
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Very uncool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/28 20:59:51
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Said by you.
I am sure there are at least 100 people on Dakka who would want to see Sisters in 40k movie.
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/28 21:16:57
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yes, but not overly sexualized and blood thirsty like you suggested.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/28 21:17:56
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Also I think the Sisters Of Battle movie would have them being slaughtered left and right :(
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I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member. -Groucho Marx
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/28 21:18:20
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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I was joking
Sisters aren't that bloody when they barely ever fight in melee ( except Cannones and Repentia ).
But it would be cool to see female warriors, we will see how good is that in "Space Marine" were we have female Guardsman. Automatically Appended Next Post: ShatteredBlade wrote:Also I think the Sisters Of Battle movie would have them being slaughtered left and right :(
Only if ( I am not allowed anymore to speak his name ) write the script. I am sure good old Dan will have something for us...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/07/28 21:19:07
For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/28 21:21:23
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Mat Ward isn't the only one to have written about the slaughter of Sisters of Battle. Plenty of other authors have done far worse.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/28 21:24:18
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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You are right, GW hates them to. Reason more for me to like them
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/28 21:27:01
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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It just seems to me that whenever GW wants a villain to be bad mofo's ( Or apparently their hero sometimes) they slaughter the Sisters of battle to show them as a real threat.
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I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member. -Groucho Marx
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/28 21:50:49
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Blood Sacrifice to Khorne
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What happend to Ultramarines site?
I mean the countdown
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/28 21:55:30
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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sshnuke wrote:What happend to Ultramarines site?
I mean the countdown
It probably ended when the movie came out last December IIRC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/28 22:03:01
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Blood Sacrifice to Khorne
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coolyo294 wrote:sshnuke wrote:What happend to Ultramarines site?
I mean the countdown
It probably ended when the movie came out last December IIRC.
But now there is another one, which will end after 18 hours
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/28 22:13:13
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Brother Coa wrote:Sisters aren't that bloody when they barely ever fight in melee ( except Cannones and Repentia ).
Seraphim get into close combat fairly often - according to their fluff, anyways. The rest just depends on narrative circumstances, see Guardsmen in CC. You don't have to charge by yourself to get drawn into a melee, after all.
Still, the only ones I'd actually trust to write a script for an SoB movie would be Gav Thorpe and Andy Hoare. Maybe James Swallow, too, based simply on the one fact that he's the only author ever to write a novel that got them right.
At the end of the day, though, Sisters simply aren't popular enough, hence why nobody bothered to mention them until now. Marines are the cashcow, so I suppose we will continue to see Marine movies and Marine computer games in the decades to come. Anything else simply isn't realistic. I only hope that other factions will at least be able to get a small piece of the leftovers ... be it with expansions to the various computer games, or by guest appearances in the movies. Of course the latter may likely end up twisting whatever army gets featured this way, in order to portray the Astartes in an even more heroic and "epic" light, so we'd just replicate the effect we already have in various novels.
Actually, thinking about it makes me unsure if I want even just that.
I'd gladly take SoB as an expansion for DoW3 again, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/29 03:56:46
Subject: Re:Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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I'm hoping that if the rumor IS true, that we'll finally get a solid answer as to whether Space Wolves are... shall we say, less than a full man.
Preferably with an Eldar babe. ^_^ Mmm, elves...
Totally not creepy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/29 03:58:34
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Pouncey wrote:I'm hoping that if the rumor IS true, that we'll finally get a solid answer as to whether Space Wolves are... shall we say, less than a full man.
Preferably with an Eldar babe. ^_^ Mmm, elves...
Totally not creepy.
My mind! It burnsssss!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/29 04:02:27
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coolyo294 wrote:Pouncey wrote:I'm hoping that if the rumor IS true, that we'll finally get a solid answer as to whether Space Wolves are... shall we say, less than a full man.
Preferably with an Eldar babe. ^_^ Mmm, elves...
Totally not creepy.
My mind! It burnsssss!
Then my job here is done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/29 11:35:58
Subject: Next 40k movie.....Space Wolves?
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Fleshound of Khorne
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I would also excuse bad cinematics if the story line was good.
I did enjoy Ultramarines: the movie. Even if I'm a hater of Rowboat Girlyman's village people. It was the first step into a direction that could provide us with better entertainment in the future.
Having said that, several changes need to be made:
Space Marines don't age like normal men!
Power armour isn't similar to flak armour!
Chaos got guns too! Not just chainswords!!!!
I will also add that I'm not in favour of a SW movie as I share the same sentiment that it would detract from the Grimdarkness that I so dearly enjoy!
Rather some last stand by some poor, forgotten, sorry-sods from some random IG platoon. Great possibilities for some character developement, very Grimdark and a story that should appeal to most fans and regular people.
Just my 2cents...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/29 14:26:25
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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Toastedandy wrote:One can only dream of an Imperial Guard movie.
Whats the bets the planet they fight on is just flat ground with so much mist you cant see more than 10 feet?
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Star Ship Troopers?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/29 17:18:14
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Bring on the terminators! Deathwing would be an obvious choice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/29 17:26:09
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ShatteredBlade wrote:Also I think the Sisters Of Battle movie would have them being slaughtered left and right :(
Mmhm. That would be very sad. The Chaos Cultists should hug them instead, until they pass out from all the luffs. And then, and then, they should drag them away to a nice, comfy place for more nice hugs once they wake up. ^_^
And then comes the Sisters of Battle's armored heels to their loins. And I will laugh and then cringe as I imagine the pain that would cause.
I was understandably a bit upset when I saw that Dreadnought in the DoW2 trailer, grab a Banshee and use a flamer on her at short range. It was sad. Also, the ending parts of Faith and Fire were sad too. Strangely it doesn't affect me as much when men are getting slaughtered, but it does when women die or get badly hurt.
: ( My emotions are sexist...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/29 17:39:54
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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What I don't get, is why are the XBOX and PC games cut scenes far better composed than the movie?
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