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Pouncey wrote:

ShatteredBlade wrote:Also I think the Sisters Of Battle movie would have them being slaughtered left and right :(

I was understandably a bit upset when I saw that Dreadnought in the DoW2 trailer, grab a Banshee and use a flamer on her at short range. It was sad. Also, the ending parts of Faith and Fire were sad too. Strangely it doesn't affect me as much when men are getting slaughtered, but it does when women die or get badly hurt.

: ( My emotions are sexist...

I feel the same, I can't stand things like that. I can't even play Halo Reach sometimes because the way female characters scream when I assasinate them. Having sisters slaughtered would really damper my fealings towards a 40k movie involving them. I think it that might actually even repel people from 40k.

Pouncey wrote:

ShatteredBlade wrote:Also I think the Sisters Of Battle movie would have them being slaughtered left and right :(

Mmhm. That would be very sad. The Chaos Cultists should hug them instead, until they pass out from all the luffs. And then, and then, they should drag them away to a nice, comfy place for more nice hugs once they wake up. ^_^

And then comes the Sisters of Battle's armored heels to their loins. And I will laugh and then cringe as I imagine the pain that would cause.

I was understandably a bit upset when I saw that Dreadnought in the DoW2 trailer, grab a Banshee and use a flamer on her at short range. It was sad. Also, the ending parts of Faith and Fire were sad too. Strangely it doesn't affect me as much when men are getting slaughtered, but it does when women die or get badly hurt.

: ( My emotions are sexist...

Still I would like to see Sisters, movies showed us that man like stong women ( Resident Evil for example ).

The best things they could do are all the things they never will do. Ditch the Space Marines. Ditch the animation. Get an actual movie studio onboard.

A 40k movie would work so much better if it was live-action and about characters that actually have CHARACTER. Seriously, they have plenty of Black Library books to choose from that would make great live-action movies. Gaunt's Ghosts? Eisenhorn?....Actually those are the only ones I can think of now that would work really well, but they would work SO amazingly!

A 40k movie with Imperium would be wavy to dramatic (at leats they would TRY), and be full of 'grim dark' things.

An movie about Orks, however would be full off...

... Green! Green is good!
... Meks! Meks, well, happy Orks are good Orks, arent they?
... Real good fighting!
... Humour? No. Good thinking.

Brother Coa wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

ShatteredBlade wrote:Also I think the Sisters Of Battle movie would have them being slaughtered left and right :(

Mmhm. That would be very sad. The Chaos Cultists should hug them instead, until they pass out from all the luffs. And then, and then, they should drag them away to a nice, comfy place for more nice hugs once they wake up. ^_^

And then comes the Sisters of Battle's armored heels to their loins. And I will laugh and then cringe as I imagine the pain that would cause.

I was understandably a bit upset when I saw that Dreadnought in the DoW2 trailer, grab a Banshee and use a flamer on her at short range. It was sad. Also, the ending parts of Faith and Fire were sad too. Strangely it doesn't affect me as much when men are getting slaughtered, but it does when women die or get badly hurt.

: ( My emotions are sexist...

Still I would like to see Sisters, movies showed us that man like stong women ( Resident Evil for example ).

Mmm, that's true. Strong women are very nice. ^_^

Just so long as they aren't slaughtered senselessly. They're supposed to have great skills, so seeing them get killed off en masse by a horde of cultists with laspistols would be a bit, "WTF?"

Fairfeldia wrote:id rather watch a chess game between 2 ogryn than a film about puppies, how about an abnett adaptation, Everyone enjoys a bit of gaunts ghosts

OH GOD YES.

I would love to see an Eisenhorn or Ravenor movie. Inquisition would be awesome. Just make sure there's no Spass Marines.... Or Grey Knights for that matter...

Pouncey wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

ShatteredBlade wrote:Also I think the Sisters Of Battle movie would have them being slaughtered left and right :(

Mmhm. That would be very sad. The Chaos Cultists should hug them instead, until they pass out from all the luffs. And then, and then, they should drag them away to a nice, comfy place for more nice hugs once they wake up. ^_^

And then comes the Sisters of Battle's armored heels to their loins. And I will laugh and then cringe as I imagine the pain that would cause.

I was understandably a bit upset when I saw that Dreadnought in the DoW2 trailer, grab a Banshee and use a flamer on her at short range. It was sad. Also, the ending parts of Faith and Fire were sad too. Strangely it doesn't affect me as much when men are getting slaughtered, but it does when women die or get badly hurt.

: ( My emotions are sexist...

Still I would like to see Sisters, movies showed us that man like stong women ( Resident Evil for example ).

Mmm, that's true. Strong women are very nice. ^_^

Just so long as they aren't slaughtered senselessly. They're supposed to have great skills, so seeing them get killed off en masse by a horde of cultists with laspistols would be a bit, "WTF?"

But said SoB move would never be for mass consumption. SO MUCH CATHOLIC OVERTONES!

And Pouncy, I am assuming your a guy, so your reaction to killing women is actually a natural male response. Men have a hard time with women dieing, more so then watching men die. Hence why women are not front line combatants in most modern militarily.

Happygrunt wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

ShatteredBlade wrote:Also I think the Sisters Of Battle movie would have them being slaughtered left and right :(

Mmhm. That would be very sad. The Chaos Cultists should hug them instead, until they pass out from all the luffs. And then, and then, they should drag them away to a nice, comfy place for more nice hugs once they wake up. ^_^

And then comes the Sisters of Battle's armored heels to their loins. And I will laugh and then cringe as I imagine the pain that would cause.

I was understandably a bit upset when I saw that Dreadnought in the DoW2 trailer, grab a Banshee and use a flamer on her at short range. It was sad. Also, the ending parts of Faith and Fire were sad too. Strangely it doesn't affect me as much when men are getting slaughtered, but it does when women die or get badly hurt.

: ( My emotions are sexist...

Still I would like to see Sisters, movies showed us that man like stong women ( Resident Evil for example ).

Mmm, that's true. Strong women are very nice. ^_^

Just so long as they aren't slaughtered senselessly. They're supposed to have great skills, so seeing them get killed off en masse by a horde of cultists with laspistols would be a bit, "WTF?"

But said SoB move would never be for mass consumption. SO MUCH CATHOLIC OVERTONES!

And Pouncy, I am assuming your a guy, so your reaction to killing women is actually a natural male response. Men have a hard time with women dieing, more so then watching men die. Hence why women are not front line combatants in most modern militarily.

Yay! I'm finally doing something normal! : D

Happygrunt wrote:

But said SoB move would never be for mass consumption. SO MUCH CATHOLIC OVERTONES!

And Pouncy, I am assuming your a guy, so your reaction to killing women is actually a natural male response. Men have a hard time with women dieing, more so then watching men die. Hence why women are not front line combatants in most modern militarily.

Still, every movie needs a woman character to succeed, like Avatar and Navi girl...
In the universe like that the only option for this would be: Eldar, SoB, Inquisitor Lord, Tau and Guardswoman.

Eldar and Tau would get slaughtered.
Guardswoman to ( or she would be saved and pretty much uselles the whole move ).
Only SoB and Inquisitor lord remains, and since woman in moves usually means to have compashined side = SoB for the win. ( Inquisitor Lord female would just Exterminate whole world ).

SoB would be nice tough to the move, they are faithful, compassionate and strong. And it is true, men are always hit hard when female dies ( unlike GW writers ). But they would be an excellent addition to the move, I know it. And I think if the rumors are true that the wolves woul fight alongside ones for sure...

If it follows the fluff then no.

I couldn't agree more on that iproxtaco, I couldn't agree more...

Brother Coa wrote:Still, every movie needs a woman character to succeed, like Avatar and Navi girl...

I'm ... not sure that this example is a fitting comparison to a Sister Militant.

We are talking about fanatical zealots who live only to fight and die for the Emperor, spending what little spare time they have with prayer and self-chastisement and not hesitating to kill unarmed men, women and children when they feel it necessary as per the Creed they were indoctrinated with. Compassionate? In some way, perhaps - but rendering her a female sidekick just for the sake to add boobs and romance (seriously?) to a movie feels like doing this faction an extreme and rather sexist disservice. If you want a Sister of Battle, take her for what she is - a holy warrior like Jeanne d'Arc.

If you just want a weaker (not weak! still strong, but weaker than the male main protagonist) woman to provide eye candy and fulfill the male fantasy of "owning" a beautiful woman that requires the male hero's protection, the Guardswoman sounds like the better idea. At least that wouldn't violate any fluff.

Maybe I'm jumping the gun and have misunderstood you here (if so I apologise!), but those were my thoughts as conjured by the last few posts. Sisters have just as much a right to "die senselessly" as men. Their whole point is to be equals, so why insist on a supposed difference that has only resulted out of centuries of cultural and religious oppression against the "fairer" sex? If they get treated differently just because of gender, I don't think they should be brought into a medium at all, for it will only twist their true nature.

Brother Coa wrote:And I think if the rumors are true that the wolves woul fight alongside ones for sure...

After having slaughtered an undisclosed number of Sisters on Fenris and generally cultivating an image of heretical mutants, I think such feelings might not be mutual.

Lynata wrote:I'm ... not sure that this example is a fitting comparison to a Sister Militant.

We are talking about fanatical zealots who live only to fight and die for the Emperor, spending what little spare time they have with prayer and self-chastisement and not hesitating to kill unarmed men, women and children when they feel it necessary as per the Creed they were indoctrinated with. Compassionate? In some way, perhaps - but rendering her a female sidekick just for the sake to add boobs and romance (seriously?) to a movie feels like doing this faction an extreme and rather sexist disservice. If you want a Sister of Battle, take her for what she is - a holy warrior like Jeanne d'Arc.

If you just want a weaker (not weak! still strong, but weaker than the male main protagonist) woman to provide eye candy and fulfill the male fantasy of "owning" a beautiful woman that requires the male hero's protection, the Guardswoman sounds like the better idea. At least that wouldn't violate any fluff.

Maybe I'm jumping the gun and have misunderstood you here (if so I apologise!), but those were my thoughts as conjured by the last few posts. Sisters have just as much a right to "die senselessly" as men. Their whole point is to be equals, so why insist on a supposed difference that has only resulted out of centuries of cultural and religious oppression against the "fairer" sex? If they get treated differently just because of gender, I don't think they should be brought into a medium at all, for it will only twist their true nature.

Why everyone must think on sex when they see female on screen. My point is that they are beautiful ( I haven't see ugly Sister thus far ), strong, and zealous. And that is the character that public love. I didn't implement sex, but just that they put some females into movie to look good. I only implemented at Navi how people love that female more than any other - because she was a female. And that only add to the reputation of that race, same effect will have Imperials after people see Sisters. And I think that they will like them because of their role as warriors of faith in a universe full of faithless.

Brother Coa wrote:And I think if the rumors are true that the wolves woul fight alongside ones for sure...

After having slaughtered an undisclosed number of Sisters on Fenris and generally cultivating an image of heretical mutants, I think such feelings might not be mutual.

I like the idea of mutiple shorts acually, and should include one of da orkz! Maybe the story of Tuska The Damon killa! that one was my favorite

Brother Coa wrote:Why everyone must think on sex when they see female on screen. My point is that they are beautiful ( I haven't see ugly Sister thus far ), strong, and zealous. And that is the character that public love. I didn't implement sex, but just that they put some females into movie to look good.

It doesn't have to be sex. As long as a character is judged primarily on looks (which happens when the character is implemented for that very reason), I think it detracts from other aspects of their background and basically objectifies them. There's absolutely nothing wrong with good looks as a side effect (we are talking about movies, after all), I'm just saying that this is a very thin line that is very often crossed and ends up with the girl being pushed into a role defined solely by gender and cliché as favoured by the target audience, rather than respecting their actual background.

I'm not saying they couldn't get it right - if they'd look for independent-minded characters such as Aliens' Vasquez, or the real world Jeanne d'Arc (who had a lot of influence on the design process of the Sisters Militant) for inspiration. I just don't really have the confidence that they would - instead falling back into the above-mentioned molds exactly because the producers would aim to please a primarily male audience. Of course it'd depend on who would make such a movie, but given how the Sisters were treated in various thankfully non-canon Black Library novels, I really wouldn't expect any miracles there. :(

Brother Coa wrote:But overall Wolves are the good guys, and they fought with Sisters many times. That incident was a mistake, and we all regret that happened but in times of need old enemies must forget themselves and fight together for the grater good.

How was that incident a mistake? I'm sure that the Wolves were fully aware that they'd evoke a rather unpleasant reaction from the Ecclesiarchy when they kill their clergy, they just did not care (which admittedly fits their mindset as it has been propagated for years).
I'm not aware of any battle in GW canon where Sisters and SW would have fought side by side (though even if there were one, I'd suspect that this little skirmish destroyed what little relation they had).

I also wouldn't exactly call Space Wolves "good guys". They're more like a loose cannon - but thankfully still pointed at the enemies of the Emperor. Most of the time, anyways.

If the movie really ends up being about SW, I hope that they at least respect that Chapter's rather unsavory history concerning other Imperial factions and only let Fenrisian troops fight by their side. This way, I'm sure they could even second a couple beautiful, yet strong females to the SW, if they just go with the idea of "viking shieldmaidens", who are then free to accompany and adore their mighty Astartes protectors as sidekicks without destroying any reputation. It would probably end up a little like the Conan movies, just with lots of snow.

Lynata wrote:How was that incident a mistake? I'm sure that the Wolves were fully aware that they'd evoke a rather unpleasant reaction from the Ecclesiarchy when they kill their clergy, they just did not care (which admittedly fits their mindset as it has been propagated for years).
I'm not aware of any battle in GW canon where Sisters and SW would have fought side by side (though even if there were one, I'd suspect that this little skirmish destroyed what little relation they had).

I also wouldn't exactly call Space Wolves "good guys". They're more like a loose cannon - but thankfully still pointed at the enemies of the Emperor. Most of the time, anyways.

If the movie really ends up being about SW, I hope that they at least respect that Chapter's rather unsavory history concerning other Imperial factions and only let Fenrisian troops fight by their side. This way, I'm sure they could even second a couple beautiful, yet strong females to the SW, if they just go with the idea of "viking shieldmaidens", who are then free to accompany and adore their mighty Astartes protectors as sidekicks without destroying any reputation. It would probably end up a little like the Conan movies, just with lots of snow.

Well people shouldn't poke in other people's business. Adn they are the good guys, always helping when needed ( hence, 1'st war for Armageddon ), and they don't do what the Imperium is telling them. We shall see about that yet, but I would love their move. Or Imperial Guard one, that would be awesome to.

larose14 wrote:Imperial guard all the way. The story could follow a. Young commissar in a begining clip where he's forced to execute a sergeant to rally the troops and push though an orc horde, perhaps cameos by yarrick and the battle of armageddon, who personally commends the young commissar for his bravery amd has him transfered to a platoon command unit on another world fighting tyranids. Once he arrives he realizes the olatoon commander Is a child hood friend who is fighting with limited resources yatta yatta fight for survival, while trying to keep their honor for the emperor and have their past conflict their judgements.

Oh man this has tons of human drama and destruction and war written all over It !! Lmao.. but seriously.. cool eh?

Edit: marine reinforcements could come in the end. I mean all in all marines kicking ass is awesome regardless and would be a cool ending on a movie centered around normal humans.

The reinforcement reminded me of when I was reading the last story from the lost and kept hearing about them getting relief and kept thinking "DROP PODS NOW! ...now! how bout now?"

Guardsmen movie would be cooler, but only if there's at least one scene of a Commissar executing a psyker or sergeant. It's just not the Guard without a Commissar's motivational technique.

Documentary on tyranids: on the origin of tyranids.

Is there any info that the ultramarines movie was successful and earned enough money to warrant another film? Very cool if it did ....

Dingdoodah wrote:Documentary on tyranids: on the origin of tyranids.

I don't think that we will ever know that, GW won't even move timeline a little bit. Much less tell us about origin of a species beyond Milky Way.


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mk2 wrote:Is there any info that the ultramarines movie was successful and earned enough money to warrant another film? Very cool if it did ....

I heard that they had some profit, witch means - another movie is in plan.

Brother Coa wrote:

Dingdoodah wrote:Documentary on tyranids: on the origin of tyranids.

I don't think that we will ever know that, GW won't even move timeline a little bit. Much less tell us about origin of a species beyond Milky Way.

OK then, how about a black templar movie, 300-style!

Dingdoodah wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

Dingdoodah wrote:Documentary on tyranids: on the origin of tyranids.

I don't think that we will ever know that, GW won't even move timeline a little bit. Much less tell us about origin of a species beyond Milky Way.

OK then, how about a black templar movie, 300-style!

That's to low number for them, try 3000

500 to hold off the million orks at the hot gates, that's my last offer; Take it or leave it.

Dingdoodah wrote:500 to hold off the million orks at the hot gates, that's my last offer; Take it or leave it.

One Black Templar with no helmet and cool scar against 1000 orks

Dingdoodah wrote:500 to hold off the million orks at the hot gates, that's my last offer; Take it or leave it.

You didn't heard GW comment on Space Marine:

Reporter: "So who are the enemies?"
GW guy: "Million strong Ork invasion."
Reporter: "Wow, so how much is 1 Space Marine worth?"
GW guy: "Tens of thousands of Orks."
Reporter: "Oh, so it is balanced?"
GW guy: "Pretty much."

I was like

Brother Coa wrote:Reporter: "Wow, so how much is 1 Space Marine worth?"
GW guy: "Tens of thousands of Orks."

As per the Dorn-formula, I guess this means that 1 Guardsman must be worth thousands of Orks. Cool.

Lynata wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:Reporter: "Wow, so how much is 1 Space Marine worth?"
GW guy: "Tens of thousands of Orks."

As per the Dorn-formula, I guess this means that 1 Guardsman must be worth thousands of Orks. Cool.

I know, but that is what the guy from GW said... and I loled....

Brother Coa wrote:I know, but that is what the guy from GW said... and I loled....

Oh well, in a way it's understandable ... "Space Marine" is arguably going to be for 40k computer games what "300" was for movies. Massive heroic action on legendary scale. Movie Marine-style. It only gets awkward if you have people who think this is how it's always supposed to work.

Let's just enjoy the game for what it is. I wish there'd be more stuff for other factions aside from Marines, but I think it's still going to be fun.

A Space Wolf and Battle Sister team up could totally work. Just think Sara Conner and the Terminator in Terminator 2. You have a strong confident female who is forced to work with her greatest enemy. By the end, because of his actions and sacrifice she actually has a new respect for the machine.

This story could work both ways. The sister could see the SW as nothing more than a Heritical brute, but once they spend some time together she can see the man under the armor.

I donno... I kinda like it. It doesn't hurt that the Space Puppies is the only SM faction that I ever concidered playing because they seem to actually have unique character.