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dsteingass wrote:Fear not man, those are looking badass! You definately converted, posed, and based them well enough that they actually look like renegade Guard rather than red-wearing Cadians. Great Job!

And that is exactly what I was going for which means I passed the test! Thanks.


I think after maybe a few more layers of dry brushing these bases will be ready for my rough riders.

The squad I think is pretty much completed, I may do some marking around where their armor has been scratched at, and perhaps a little touching up on the lenses but this is probably as good as they'll get.

Beautiful work! Can't wait for the Rough Riders!

I am really enjoying where this is going. The uniformity makes them look like a solid unit, but the myriad of differences separates them from Loyalist Guard, these are w/o a doubt freedom fighters standing against Imperial tyranny.

The spine on that notebook makes me want to make some coiled barbed wire.

Briancj wrote:Beautiful work! Can't wait for the Rough Riders!

Neither can I. I'm going to have to pin them onto the bases as I didn't plan ahead as much as I could/should have.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:I am really enjoying where this is going. The uniformity makes them look like a solid unit, but the myriad of differences separates them from Loyalist Guard, these are w/o a doubt freedom fighters standing against Imperial tyranny.

Tyranny? Nah they just want a couple of days off and it turned into this. But thanks, its exactly the look I was going for.

dsteingass wrote:The spine on that notebook makes me want to make some coiled barbed wire.

I hate making barbed wire, but the end result is amazing and always well worth the effort, I usually make it in foot long batches.

I went net-scrounging for pictures last night and found something that inspired me a little for my harker squad.

I scrapped the little plasticard parts of their suits, as they didn't hold well anyway (a light brush pushed almost all of them away) and I think the cloak look is much better, and will be more interesting to paint on.



Harker is looking pretty bad-ass if I say so myself, my only gripe is maybe Id prefer the bolter to be hip-fired but I couldn't find a nice way to do it, although I bet I could certainly try but I'm still happy with him how he is.
He might need some details on his shoulders or something to make him appear a little more chaos and less like a cadian with a bolter and a cool face.


And since it's daytime when I write this, I took another photo of the finished squad. They are not perfect but certainly more work than I've ever put into painting anything in the past and I'm quite pleased with my work.
I am considering making up a SGT Bastonne model just because it would be cool, and I do have a few left over torsos and legs, but which squad to model him for or maybe stand alone is a different matter altogether.

Quick constructive critiscism. Your painting could be a little less messy mabye tidy up a few shabby endings. Your traitor guard could be a little more traitor. Some interesting ideas I like your tervigon but mabye invest in some plasticard or at least something a little better than cardboard because if thats going to be the case its gonna look pretty crap.


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Quick constructive critiscism. Your painting could be a little less messy mabye tidy up a few shabby endings. Your traitor guard could be a little more traitor. Some interesting ideas I like your tervigon but mabye invest in some plasticard or at least something a little better than cardboard because if thats going to be the case its gonna look pretty crap.

littlenibbler wrote:Quick constructive critiscism. Your painting could be a little less messy mabye tidy up a few shabby endings. Your traitor guard could be a little more traitor. Some interesting ideas I like your tervigon but mabye invest in some plasticard or at least something a little better than cardboard because if thats going to be the case its gonna look pretty crap.

He says that it is a cardboard mock-up.

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littlenibbler wrote:Quick constructive critiscism. Your painting could be a little less messy mabye tidy up a few shabby endings. Your traitor guard could be a little more traitor. Some interesting ideas I like your tervigon but mabye invest in some plasticard or at least something a little better than cardboard because if thats going to be the case its gonna look pretty crap.

Yeah as a friends fancy camera has pointed out, the painting is actually pretty shabby. But for gaming they are perfectly fine I think, and I can always touch them up again.

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Quick constructive critiscism. Your painting could be a little less messy mabye tidy up a few shabby endings. Your traitor guard could be a little more traitor. Some interesting ideas I like your tervigon but mabye invest in some plasticard or at least something a little better than cardboard because if thats going to be the case its gonna look pretty crap.

dsteingass wrote:

littlenibbler wrote:Quick constructive critiscism. Your painting could be a little less messy mabye tidy up a few shabby endings. Your traitor guard could be a little more traitor. Some interesting ideas I like your tervigon but mabye invest in some plasticard or at least something a little better than cardboard because if thats going to be the case its gonna look pretty crap.

He says that it is a cardboard mock-up.

And he is correct. I don't make anything out of cardboard anymore.

WillFrost wrote:Cool Stuff

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Thanks will!


Okay so last night I had the joy of a 750 game against my own chaos marines actually. I went with what I thought was a good list, a bit of basics but one hard hitter being the vets in a chimera. unfortunately the only long range weapon downed it on the 2nd turn and the veterans were mince meat before they got a chance to strike a single bayonet.

Ending all up with a 2:1 loss for me, but a VERY close game and extremely fun to be back in the gaming side of the hobby.


An Apostle leads his summoned daemons into the fray with echos of doom and despair.


After the Chimera was exploded, the remaining veterans stare down the barrels of the approaching chaos marines and stay steadfast but are no match.

There were a few more pictures of the battle but he didn't send them over so I guess they weren't up to his standard.

Anyways my greater daemon I thought needed a chance to be photographed like the beauty he is...



And my Harker Chimera, which gladly I can see the little bits I missed now that it's so close my eyes burn.


And a photo of Komir because he is my pride and joy in the army, however his spear has come off and I'll need to sculpt a new grip for it when I get more confident.


APOSTLE OF THE DOOMED DOOMLINGS!
This is my mate's, Jarrod, he's been painting with me and we've been hobbying solidly for quite a bit over the past few weeks. I've been trying to convince him to start a blog and if he does, when he does, I'll link to it from mine so he can get a few nice comments just like I have received from everyone.

I've got another update probably have to do tomorrow as I'm a little worn out right now, if anyone has any simple hints or list ideas, or interested in what I took to help me build it better, I'd love to hear it.

A lot of people use the Space Marine Scout Heavy Bolter for hot hot firing from the hip action. It is a cheap bit as well from the various providers.

--B.

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Your Greater Daemon looks completely disgusting, which means I love it. Congrads on having such a good game. I'm right there with you about being back to the "gaming side", I've been doing most of my modeling for fun and painting things I'm interested in, not so much concerned with the actual game mechanics. But this coming weekend (with any luck) I'll be bringing out the Cult list with a modified "house rule" that allows Plague Zombies formations (from APOC) as a troop choice. I'm going up against Grey Knights so I know I'm going to get pasted in the worst way possible, but it's going to be wicked fun!

Briancj wrote:A lot of people use the Space Marine Scout Heavy Bolter for hot hot firing from the hip action. It is a cheap bit as well from the various providers.

--B.

I knew there was a kit somewhere that could have done it! He's finished now though and I still love the final result.

dsteingass wrote:This is a community forum where like-minded great talent is abundant and artists can meet and share ideas freely.

The definition of "Constructive Criticism" is: a compassionate attitude towards the person qualified for criticism, this person is intending to uplift the other person materially, morally, emotionally or spiritually.

The definition of 'Destructive Criticism" is: intended to harm someone, derogate and destroy someone’s creation, prestige, reputation and self-esteem on whatever level it might be.

Starting a post with "Quick constructive criticism" followed by personal attacks on Duane's artistic skill is simply an abusive Ad Hominem logical fallacy. This person is a troll. A quick look at his/her comment history confirms this.

Haha, it's okay dude. You gotta learn to take the good with the bad, and I've been guilty of going through entire threads without reading a word but still adding my 2 cents at the end.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Your Greater Daemon looks completely disgusting, which means I love it. Congrads on having such a good game. I'm right there with you about being back to the "gaming side", I've been doing most of my modeling for fun and painting things I'm interested in, not so much concerned with the actual game mechanics. But this coming weekend (with any luck) I'll be bringing out the Cult list with a modified "house rule" that allows Plague Zombies formations (from APOC) as a troop choice. I'm going up against Grey Knights so I know I'm going to get pasted in the worst way possible, but it's going to be wicked fun!

Thanks man! The daemon is still sitting on the verge of being finished but I really dislike sculpting details like hands. The game was very good, and considering the time and money I spend on this hobby I only have a game every 6 months or so which is really bad.
Good luck for the coming game! My friend is wanting to start a word bearers army with lots of daemons despite them not being good, but I'd probably be happy to let him use daemon rules for them in game for fun. But I toyed with the idea of maybe making up a squad of renegade guardsmen converted into cultists that teleport in.

my entire rant was another example of a logical fallacy. But was mostly my end of work day decompressing.

WOW!!

How have I not seen this thread before!? I think I am actually panting from reading through your posts too fast. I had a whole pile of comments and suggestions but forgot them all because I got distracted by another awesome project of yours. All I can say is that everything is super duper cool!

I declare this to be my blog of the month! (pretty impressive to say we are only a day or two in! )

dsteingass wrote:my entire rant was another example of a logical fallacy. But was mostly my end of work day decompressing.

Haha I permit the use of rants on here. Proceed!

Commander Cain wrote:WOW!!

How have I not seen this thread before!? I think I am actually panting from reading through your posts too fast. I had a whole pile of comments and suggestions but forgot them all because I got distracted by another awesome project of yours. All I can say is that everything is super duper cool!

I declare this to be my blog of the month! (pretty impressive to say we are only a day or two in! )

Superthanks dude! I like seeing that people are enthusiastic about what I can do even if the end result isn't amazing.

I did an all-nighter and managed to get a bit of work done here and there as well fit in a game, which again was pretty close despite 2 of my units being absolutely obsolete the entire game thanks to some luck.

About halfway in the game, the chimera and the rhino up the back are destroyed and the hellhound is stuck, immobilised and stunned/shaken each turn, resulting in a return profit of 0.
My 30 man "marine crusher" squad charged the apostle and his retinue and utterly crushed him, heavy losses on both sides but the renegades remained steadfast over their oppressive overlords.


After a turn of combat only the apostle stands alone to face the charge of 18 dogs of war.

READY?! FIRE!


The game ended on the 5th turn, both sides suffering heavy losses and lots of bloody close combats being faught, in the end both sides retreating as no edge was gained by either, but regroup to fight another day.

I painted the leaves with I think 2 layers of highlights and a wash over the top of dark green to bring it back down a little.


I am so overjoyed with the result of this piece, the turret still needs a bit of work done in regards to the camo, but once its applied I can do the simple wear and tear, and some dirt and washes and he is ready for action.

Unfortunately for me I don't have a spray can to do any of the models I've been assembling or adjusting but I'll be sure to get on painting the second I can.


Straken went through a change, I decided the big daemon hand attached to his wrist was a bit of a weak move in terms of modeling so I gave him a sort of hellboy style arm.
I used him in the last game and although he didn't partake in the combat, knowing he was there and his abilities were a big relief to me.
Straken back.

I also lost his shotgun, and I had a look at my weapons and thought of an amazing solution that was staring at me all along....
BEHOLD! BOOMBOOM!
So simple I will probably use it for quite a lot of conversions, the humble flamer cut off before the cover and the pipes taken off. Beautiful in its simplicity.


This "objective/diorama" ended up about here. I still have some GS work to do before I'm completely happy but it went well above my expectations to be honest.

More soon I hope!

THAT IS AWESOME!

I really connect with "Guard Gone Wrong", and man I really mean it when I say I respect what you are doing here and really interested in where this is going. Your conversions are inspired and very well done.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:

THAT IS AWESOME!

I really connect with "Guard Gone Wrong", and man I really mean it when I say I respect what you are doing here and really interested in where this is going. Your conversions are inspired and very well done.

Thanks heaps! I feel the dark side of the 41st millennium is underrated for bad-assery. And chaos guard can fill that void a little bit.

Nice rivets!

dsteingass wrote:Nice rivets!

Thank you sir!

Totally off-topic for the guardsmen but I've been cleaning up and trying to make room so I can paint more comfortably without getting cluttered, and as a result, I've put some work into the skaven lords.





I've put a lot more work into this than I think the photos show which is a shame, I have highlights again to add and I may try to write on the scrolls, I've not decided yet.



Quite love this little model, the base is pretty simple but still makes him stand out a little, I enjoyed painting it as well, but again it has some work to go before I can call it complete.

I'll post up some shots of what I've done today maybe a little later as I'm still half way through cleaning up and trying to organise all my goodies.

Space Skaven!

Oh wait, that's just regular Skaven.

I like the highlight in the blades a lot, and the "antiquing" on the armor is done well. I can see you going from "good" to "great" with your painting skills because you have the ideas and techniques right now.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Space Skaven!

Oh wait, that's just regular Skaven.

I like the highlight in the blades a lot, and the "antiquing" on the armor is done well. I can see you going from "good" to "great" with your painting skills because you have the ideas and techniques right now.

Yes I know! I seriously wish I knew all this a long time ago when I was painting my marines and I'd have an actual nice sized marine army painted well. Oh well you live and learn!


I haven't been working as hard as normal, had a bit of a lapse in inspiration but here we go.



The warlord is probably almost done to a level I can really appreciate, there is always room to improve, unfortunately the angles don't show much.




Had another game last night, A real bad loss to me, some bad decisions on my part but I'll get to that later.


First turn, both sides set up, chaos has the first turn. Havocs are up the top end of the table which will prove to be game winning, and I set straken up AWAY from the majority of my army, for reasons I don't understand.
Another angle of before the game starts.

Chaos Marines roared up the table very quickly, the havocs ran into cover behind the large science facility and took up positions for carnage.
I kept all my guardsmen exactly where they were to make things easier, and moved the 2 tanks up ahead to get a better kill position (2 tanks one plasma spamming and one with a very evil flamer against marines was meant to be extremely nasty.) The autocannons, despite firing into a smoke cover were lucky enough to turn the Rhino into a wreck with ease.


End of chaos marines 2nd turn, this is where it all sorts to go downhill very, very badly.
The marines havocs fire did nothing this turn, but the meltagun from the yellow squad got in enough to shake and stun the banewolf which saved the marines.

During my turn, the havocs copped a lot of firepower but able to pass every single save, they powered on.

The yellow marines faced the brunt of a brutal plasma-spam from the chimera, resulting in 5 dead marines.
Banewolf unable to move was a prime target for the lord, who got in close an immobilised the vehicle for good with a well-placed krak grenade.


As their chimera was immobilised and shaken/stunned the depraved guardsmen launched from the vehicle and aimed their plasma guns at the remnants of the apostles retinue, puncturing multiple holes of blazing hot plasma into the champion. (instead of targeting the lord himself), the guardsmen remained confident, but the apostle came in close and slaughtered only 2 guardsmen, but the guardsmen were unable to land a blow resulting in a lost combat and the remaining guardsmen were cut down as they fled.


Havocs ended up mauling both heavy weapon teams in the coming turns, the large calibre shells literally tearing guardsmen apart.

The chaos rhino managed to squeeze itself out of line of site behind the building and unloading charging chaos marines on me with pistols raised and chainswords whirring they slaughtered some guard in the initial charge, but then the massive staying power and resiliance of the renegade guard kicked in their fighting spirit and gave the chaos marines back all that they gave. And over the next few turns, the chaos marines and the summoned daemons both were taken out by the renegades.




These daemons spaced themselves out to take over 2 objectives in a fantastic move.

I shot everything I could at the daemons, managing an amazing 5 dead with 6 shots fired from the chimera, then the next turn nothing managed to wound, but the daemons were still spread out enough to capture.

After the death of all the chaos marines in close combat, I charged towards the rhino, hoping to blow it up and secure an objective for myself, but no luck as they only managed to take off a weapon and stun it.

The apostle, fearing the brunt of retribution from the barrel of a multi-laser, he withdraws behind nearby cover until the battle is done. (I hope the chaos gods didn't see)


The game came down to 2-0 in chaos' favor. But I'm learning each and every game.

I managed to convince my friend to have a go on the forums here so maybe when he gets a few more done, you can all go visit him too.

Sorry to hear about the loss, right there with you. Played against my buddy Feldenglas last night (2,000 pt Planetstrike Space Wolves vs. Traitor Guard and while it was a tight game I was pretty disappointed that I offered so much to my opponent through bad choices on my part. Oh well, learn for next time.

Thanks for linking JBrehaut, already checked it out and liked his stuff. Looking forward to more.

dsteingass wrote:This is a community forum where like-minded great talent is abundant and artists can meet and share ideas freely.

The definition of "Constructive Criticism" is: a compassionate attitude towards the person qualified for criticism, this person is intending to uplift the other person materially, morally, emotionally or spiritually.

The definition of 'Destructive Criticism" is: intended to harm someone, derogate and destroy someone’s creation, prestige, reputation and self-esteem on whatever level it might be.

Starting a post with "Quick constructive criticism" followed by personal attacks on Duane's artistic skill is simply an abusive Ad Hominem logical fallacy. This person is a troll. A quick look at his/her comment history confirms this.

Haha Well played Stein, I enjoy your traitors I think using some bloodletter legs to make them look like half breed devils would be really cool. Just an opinion

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Sorry to hear about the loss, right there with you. Played against my buddy Feldenglas last night (2,000 pt Planetstrike Space Wolves vs. Traitor Guard and while it was a tight game I was pretty disappointed that I offered so much to my opponent through bad choices on my part. Oh well, learn for next time.

Thanks for linking JBrehaut, already checked it out and liked his stuff. Looking forward to more.

No worries for the link, he's been a good force behind me learning to paint a bit better.

Aboucher wrote:

dsteingass wrote:This is a community forum where like-minded great talent is abundant and artists can meet and share ideas freely.

The definition of "Constructive Criticism" is: a compassionate attitude towards the person qualified for criticism, this person is intending to uplift the other person materially, morally, emotionally or spiritually.

The definition of 'Destructive Criticism" is: intended to harm someone, derogate and destroy someone’s creation, prestige, reputation and self-esteem on whatever level it might be.

Starting a post with "Quick constructive criticism" followed by personal attacks on Duane's artistic skill is simply an abusive Ad Hominem logical fallacy. This person is a troll. A quick look at his/her comment history confirms this.

Haha Well played Stein, I enjoy your traitors I think using some bloodletter legs to make them look like half breed devils would be really cool. Just an opinion

Actually that is a pretty good idea with the bloodletter legs, but I don't really have any of them just lying about. It's one for the ideas box though.

I grew a little tired of my old conversions for some of the higher-up's in my chain of command...


This is creed, I dislike the cables running to his backpack, I think they could look more streamline somehow.


This guy does have a bolt pistol, so can count him as a commisar if I need the extra body or perhaps as a vox.


My chenkov model went through some changes too, the whip is a lot more brutal now, I don't like his chest that much so I may go over it with something else, we'll see.


My priest, just the one, I may give him a banner because it seems very priest-like and worship-like.


Al-Rahem. Pretty happy with this after I changed around some stuff. I think hes pretty much done besides smoothing out his ragged cloak a little.

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My priest, just the one, I may give him a banner because it seems very priest-like and worship-like.

I like this model, but it just doesn't scream 'priest' to me.. Not sure why, maybe it's the lack of robes?

Good work with everything else too

And a very authoritative finger he has too!

More like the headmaster from the Schola..with a chainsword..he is very strict!
"OK! Who left the pile of bolter shells on the floor? I'll start punishing everybody until one of you comes forward!"

I like all the conversions, I have murdered 2 cadian now attempting to making them look as if they are running. Good great stuff bet you can't wait for the renegade codex to come out haha

JBrehaut wrote:

omgitsduane wrote:


My priest, just the one, I may give him a banner because it seems very priest-like and worship-like.

I like this model, but it just doesn't scream 'priest' to me.. Not sure why, maybe it's the lack of robes?

Good work with everything else too

I am gunna probably add some scrolls to him, maybe banners or something too and a back banner might be a good idea I reckon ey?

dsteingass wrote:And a very authoritative finger he has too!

More like the headmaster from the Schola..with a chainsword..he is very strict!
"OK! Who left the pile of bolter shells on the floor? I'll start punishing everybody until one of you comes forward!"

The priest himself, in combat is kind of crap, but the re-roll to hit for the squad is such an amazing ability, especially when you're depending on them.

Aboucher wrote:I like all the conversions, I have murdered 2 cadian now attempting to making them look as if they are running. Good great stuff bet you can't wait for the renegade codex to come out haha

There is a renegade codex coming out? I don't really stay in tune with the rumors and releases unless someone shows me ha.
I have ordered bits to finish one of my squads, when I do get them done I actually will be painting them asap because they'll have a fresher renegade look, so might paint them cadian with some blood splatters and battle scars.

Yeah they are sometime next year I'll try to find a link for you to show you