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Aboucher wrote:Yeah they are sometime next year I'll try to find a link for you to show you

+1 for the link please... oooh!
Anything else exciting that's known to be in the works? (Chaos Legions dex, Chaos Legions dex...)

Aboucher wrote:Yeah they are sometime next year I'll try to find a link for you to show you

Bring it!

I think Traitor Guard is more popular than regular guard nowadays. Thanks to 13 Gaunt's Ghosts novels in that epic series, and Dave Taylor's standard-setting Blood Pact.

"These are great days we are living bros. We are Jolly Green Giants, walking the earth, with guns" -Crazy Earl

dsteingass wrote:I think Traitor Guard is more popular than regular guard nowadays. Thanks to 13 Gaunt's Ghosts novels in that epic series, and Dave Taylor's standard-setting Blood Pact.

"These are great days we are living bros. We are Jolly Green Giants, walking the earth, with guns" -Crazy Earl

I really do wanna read more guardsmen related novels, I read dead men walking and loved it. I almost started a krieg army.





This is probably close to finished now, I think he could use some more grossness here and there, and I realised I hate how long his arms are, but bugger it, I've already done enough and hes nurgle anyway ha.

Brosef!

This is awesome.

+1 Exalt

AvatarForm wrote:Brosef!

This is awesome.

+1 Exalt

Thanks cameron! Been a busy little beaver ha!


I had my first game with chaos marines in probably a good 6 months+ and here is the tale. (no project updates sorry guys!)

My list was trying to max out everywhere, and I did besides in troops, (5 troops in the end which is good)
3 squads of 3 bikers with champ/fist and meltas
a squad of 5 termies kitted out with combi meltas and claws/fist
2 dreads
2 pm squads one with meltas
2 squads of 10 marines in rhinos with meltas too (I REALLY HATE TANKS)
a squad of khorne with kharn in a rhino
a defiler and vindicator
3 obliterators
and lastly a greater daemon and 8 lesser daemons

I regret my entire heavy weapons choices and the two dreads highly and won't be taking them again as defilers and vindicators have cost me too many games by being unable to land a single hit worth writing home about.


Game type was standard deployment, and rolled for five objectives all up, nick had won the roll for turn but gave it to me.


My deployment.

My plan was to bring the bikers up the middle, and bikers and the rhinos flanking down the side and bring the entire army around on one side away from his thunderhammer/shield termies in the furthest landraider, but plans seldom work out.

The bright blue dots are the objectives too. For clarity.


The defiler takes aim at the scout squad behind some cover and ends up only getting 2/8 thanks to a ridiculous cover save.

This is after the marines first shooting turn, I took heavy losses on the bikes down the middle, hoping the meltas would last enough to pop the landraider, but with no luck, eventually getting stomped out by close combat.
Vindicator goes down too thanks to some lascannons from a dev squad.

The 2nd squad survived a LOT of plasma and bolter wounds thanks to the 3+ save and then at the start of my next turn, the daemons arrived and I retaliated with the bikes by melta-blasting the predator into a wreck and fisting the rhino, turning it into a fancy terrain piece.

The defiler takes aim.
The defiler climbs over the piece of terrain to take a very menacing yet ill-effective shot at the command squad and their captain and scatters a fantastic 11 inches from the target like a champ. Rendering all his usefulness out for the game.

The defiler gets multi-melta'd in the coming turn and dies. Every time. Bastard.


Another angle.
Greater daemon came out of a squad in the 3rd turn and I used this chance to try and put some hurt on the marines by roaring up in rhinos, hopping out and rapid firing 2 squads, as well as the greater daemon and a dreadnought closing in for combat, but fall all to the greater daemon, who hit and wounded with every dice slaying the rest of the squad.

And then turned his attention towards some more marines.

The obliterators also landed, and three multi-melta shots later only managed to, ironically take the multi-melta off the landraider in a fantastic display of marksmanship.

The other side of the board was getting heavy too, with the marines closing down and slowly storming over everything in a tsunami of blue power armor.
But this unfortunate squad of plague marines lost combat to a squad of scouts with a fist, and the kicker? I charged,had a power fist and they had 2 less members than me at the beginning of the combat, and ended up slaying my squad, only to lose 3 of their own.

This is why I don't play marines often.

The blue marines landed down with some veterans, a drop pod, and assault marines and took up positions towards the bottom of the map and more at the bottom to take my objectives, in the end, proving very effective.
terminators also landed and melta'd the same land raider, resulting in finally blowing it up after taking a massive 5 melta shots.

The veterans closed in on the combat with obliterators and the greater daemon had joined, only to be slain, but returning more than enough shots to make the combat a little easier for the obliterator to hold his own.

The terminators ended up copping the brunt of a few plasma guns and some special vanguard ammo I believe and dropped 3 of their number even after some impressive invulnerable saving from me.


The last turn however for me resulted in my dreadnought going crazy while standing an inch from a landraider and about to tear it inside out, instead firing BOTH his bolters TWICE into the landraider and standing there admiring the dents in the imperials mighty vehicles before lascannons turn him into swiss cheese the following turn.

The khorne and kharn had hopped out of their rhino the turn before and blasted away, then the plague marines jumped in to soak up while the khorne waited the turn to fully assault, when they did kharn scored an impressive 6 wounds out of 6, the next turn however he hit all and wounded a single marine. A bit of hit and miss literally.

The game ended up here, with space marines claiming 2 objectives and me claiming none, had the game gone one turn more I could have rushed a bit and claimed back the 2 objectives I was so close to. But it wasn't in my favor today.


And another view once the smoke had cleared.

In the end, I realised that almost 700 points of my army had literally made not one contribution to the fight, meanwhile the troops roamed around dealing out melta and bolter death to anything they could so if I could write the list again for this game I would take nothing but chaos marines and a daemon prince instead of the greater daemon.
Another crushing defeat for me, and one more reason to continue with the guard as my games are a lot closer than this ha. Hope this rough report was legible enough!

On the verge of being finished.









The chains and skulls and some other junk has really made it come alive a bit more, I'm not happy with the swinging arm though but I can't do anything now.

I also am planning to make a huge ball covered in spikes at the end of the chain in his hand so we'll see where that ends up, then its painting time!
Had a genius idea to make myself a carry case for some guardsmen with the bits and piece I have around here.

Starting painting my prince, also getting my command squads and the first infantry squad finalised to the state I can spray them and have them finished. I will be using only black spray from now on, its a bit more work but the end results are worth it.






And did a dabble of paint on some of the terrain, nothing extreme but it still is nice to see regardless.

I like what you've done with the Traitor Guard here. May want to practice a bit with Greenstuff, and sculpting Terrain.

Ogryn wrote:I like what you've done with the Traitor Guard here. May want to practice a bit with Greenstuff, and sculpting Terrain.

Me needing to practise sculpting? The stuff is evil.


I've started applying paint but I'm going with a slightly different nurgle look. I had the idea that maybe I want the flesh looking decayed instead of bright green and glossy (that will come though).

I want the wounds to get pinker towards the edges and blend out, which will take some painting effort from me, and then comes adding detail to the muscles and bits and pieces.

Still very glad to finally be getting him started, the eye I've decided with a red, not sure what shade yet, maybe end up at blood red and gloss over it. I hope to add heaps of gloss and even some clear drying glue with puss colors in some of the wounds for a bit of fun.

I don't know if I mentioned it earlier, but I liked the idea of maybe having a few squads with fresh-faced renegades, and that's where this squad comes to play.

I gave them a basic guardsmen looking loadout, gave the Sargent some purity seals which I'll defile, and a pretty mean looking stride. The knife was the only thing I could put in that arm thanks to a super low amount of arms left but it still has quite a pose to him.

As demonstrated here.

I have been experimenting a bit with the colors I want to use for the daemon and I'm leaning towards more muted/pale colors of the spectrum that will maybe give the slightly more intense parts of him more sparkle (without being a vampire).




The rust isn't actually as bright as the camera makes it out to be, but I'm not quite sure how to get good photos on this without flash just yet. I did at first a layer of watered down vermin brown, then a thick, solid layer of vermin, then mixed vermin with sunburst yellow three seperate times to get a range of oranges and also added some super fine sand with pva for good measure.


I've just finished reading Flight of the Eisenstien and oh man I loved hearing all that nurgley goodness. It screams at me to build a squad of death guard but I need to remain vigilant against the whispers!


I do intend to darken the recesses of his wounds with some scab red or even dark flesh as the blood red is giving off a comical look.

So yeah, for the daemon that's what I have done. I quickly added some basing to these for my games.

Two vehicle explosion markers. I hope to paint them soonish, I'm looking forward to it actually.


I had a load of pepsi cans left over from the hotter days binging and decided to make use of some of them. I would of built more of these but I don't have the mdf boards to support it.
Another angle.


And another pepsi can industrial section. I am lucky I stumbled across the piece of Styrofoam as they're interesting shapes I may make a few more of these eventually.
Another angle again.

I need to work out how I will paint the two factory pieces, but they were very useful in the last game providing some nice LOS blocking for a small change.

The Daemon Prince looks amazing!!! And I like the "new recruit" approach to the Traitor Guard. I have a few of them in mine as well.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:The Daemon Prince looks amazing!!! And I like the "new recruit" approach to the Traitor Guard. I have a few of them in mine as well.

GREATER DAEMON! ROARRRR! He's not amazing in game actually as I believed, but for only 100 points I can't complain much.

I'm currently working on painting my first squad of regular guard, as well as harkers veteran squad, which both are going quite well so far.

The first layer of camo is down, but I'll have to go over most of it again to get a clean layer and then the other 2 layers of green applied on top. I was thinking with the bases I go a brown color and slosh around some pva for a muddy effect.


These guys are just your average guardsmen, I hope to maybe have some form of clear struggle between them and their old masters but we'll see ey.


I washed the daemon really roughly with badab black and this is where he is.

It's probably passable for a table top standard but I know I could do more, so I will. No steps written out for exactly how yet.

I will probably be spraying up a few other bits and pieces in the next couple of days and trying to get as much painting done as I can.

Oops. You know, I knew that, I wrote the wrong thing. It looks amazing nonetheless.

omgitsduane wrote:

I'm currently working on painting my first squad of regular guard, as well as harkers veteran squad, which both are going quite well so far.

The first layer of camo is down, but I'll have to go over most of it again to get a clean layer and then the other 2 layers of green applied on top. I was thinking with the bases I go a brown color and slosh around some pva for a muddy effect.

Where are th- Oh.

They were painted so well camo'ed that I almost didn't see them,
Looking good so far, I'd love to see them in a shot with their themed Chimera, maybe when they're finished?

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:

Oops. You know, I knew that, I wrote the wrong thing. It looks amazing nonetheless.

Thanks mate!

JBrehaut wrote:

omgitsduane wrote:

I'm currently working on painting my first squad of regular guard, as well as harkers veteran squad, which both are going quite well so far.

The first layer of camo is down, but I'll have to go over most of it again to get a clean layer and then the other 2 layers of green applied on top. I was thinking with the bases I go a brown color and slosh around some pva for a muddy effect.

Where are th- Oh.

They were painted so well camo'ed that I almost didn't see them,
Looking good so far, I'd love to see them in a shot with their themed Chimera, maybe when they're finished?

Yes, now that they have won some battle honors.

I managed to get a game in tonight with my regular gaming buddy, 1500 list and I'll give a rundown of the lists and how the game went and hopefully we can both get some tips and hints on how and where to improve.

My list went a little like so:

PCS with 2 meltas, vox and standard.
Marbo.
2 sentinels with heavy flamers (seperate squads)
Vendetta.
2 chimers with veterans and max plasmaguns each.
2 base stormtrooper squads with plasma guns and pistols (only to use the last 20 points)

CCS with vox and 3 flamers.
3 infantry squads with a vox and 3 flamers, priest and commisar supporting.

2 heavy weapons teams, with autocannons.

And Chaos Marines had...

Lord with MoT, power weapon and personal icon.

3 terminators, with icon of chaos glory, heavy flamer and chainfist.

10 berzerkers with champion and power weapon and personal icon inside a rhino.

5 chaos marines.

9 Chaos marines with champion wielding a power weapon.
an icon of chaos glory and 2 meltaguns (oops) inside a rhino.

8 lesser daemons. x3

6 havocs with 2 lascannons and 2 autocannons.

6 havocs with 4 heavy bolters.

We've not veterans of our individual armies and have been practically playing exclusively against eachother so our lists are a little tooled to counter our own counters.

I'm not sure of the theme behind his list, but daemons have been amazing so far at holding objectives so I wrote up something strictly to take objectives away from him either with contesting or simply blowing away any opposition. Stormtroops and chimeras were for marines and the sentinels against the daemon squads.


First turn was fairly simple, chaos rolled for first turn and took it.

The lines... ... are drawn.

First off the chaos moved what could forward, firing the heavy bolters and totally wiping out my autocannons in the corner instantly.

I retaliated by moving the vendetta up, and taking shots at the rhino, which failed to do any real damage.


However the multi laser went through the front of the other rhino and forced the very angry passengers out into the open.

On the 2nd turn, two daemon squads popped out, each holding neaby objectives to their summoners.

The havocs opened fire on the vendetta and forced it into the ground with relative ease.

But return fire from the renegade humans burst the rhino on the right side of the field and forced the marines to bail out, bearing the brunt of a plasma storm.


The sentinel charged forward to flame the daemons and charge combat, hopefully to contest for the game and kill daemons in the process.

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My stormtroopers dropped down exactly where I needed and laid out a quick death to the troops holding the top objective, one soldier bravely losing his life to an overheat, the rest of the squad was gunned down at point blank range by heavy bolter fire.

The sentinel looked like he was holding his own until a torrent of daemons rained down on him and he suddenly found himself wishing for a quick death...

...His prayers were answered.

The terminators arrived this turn, and made a mess of nothing, but using the shaken chimera as cover during their arrival they slowly pushed towards the large guardsmen squad where both sides gritted their teeth to hold on for dear life.

Striking hard, the terminators and daemons together managed to clean out 15 of the guardsmen in one swipe, the clang of powerfists hitting the mightly terminators found home and ended the lives of the tyrants-in-the-making.

Close combat was fierce and eventually came down to only a handful of each squad fighting tooth and nail to remain on top.


The leftover chaos marines spread out to try and take objectives and push the guardsmen off theirs, Veterans fired on the apostle, determined to sink in a crippling blow to moral and it hit putting numerous plasma burnt holes in the champion of chaos.

it was too late for the marines and victory was sealed with a harsh blow from Marbos demolition charge, inefficient as it was, still struck fear for a moment into the enemy.

Marbo hurls the charge into a group of daemons.


End game. Victory for the malice traitor guardsmen! 3 objectives captured, and one contested with most of the chaos marines mopped up they were able to push forward and reclaim their sacred lands.

Any possible list building tips anyone has would be appreciated. I will be posting up actual painting work tomorrow most likely. Thanks for reading!

It's somewhat comforting to know that in the grim darkness of the far future, there are still Pepsi manufacturing plants. But they probably just make Promethium.

Promethiumsi?

I've been trying to get as much hobby as I can get done lately. Pushing some things out of the way for the purpose of WARHAMMER!

I finally got around to spraying all my infantry squads, but I won't be starting paint on any of them until I've finished the others I have lying around. As is the purpose of this approach.


I finished modeling my Company Command, the dark eldar spikes I knew would come in handy at some stage.


My first squad of cadians is going well, I bought the right paint for their cloth the other day and I can't seem to find it ha. But the bleached done/khaki is working fine.

I've added more pink fleshy parts to the daemon.

Hoping to bring out the old flesh look a bit more with this idea.




I'm particularly sold on how the sword is shaping up, after some more layers and I figure out what to do with the painting of the bloodletter head on the end... I'll be closer to finished.


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BOOM POW! The bassies are getting there, I only started painting today, I had a can of spray where the propellant had died somehow and was only spitting out paint at a bad rate so I had to wait til I could get new cans to get these done.


Pictures of the cadian squad. I hate how this camera really shows off how terrible my minis are, I'm gunna have to take more photos and go over the mistakes I see.


Besides the feet, this guy is probably the closest to finished. I saw the red light on the magazine feed while playing Space Marine and thought it was a cool idea. Or maybe it was on the little silver strip on the other side? Hmmm either way I like it.


The sargeant is pretty mean. And close to done, but they all need painting work on the faces and hands I reckon.


I'd normally have done purity seals bone color but because of the cadian fatigues I decided against it and went with something more... pure.

I did do some solid painting today, and I really hope the next week or two I'll be able to start putting squads away in my new case ready for games.

Excellent update, and commendable work to get things done.

But I have to say your keyboard really got my attention.

The Cadian squad looks great! Don't worry about too many fiddly things... macro photography is extremely unkind and all but the most masterfully painted miniatures look pretty horrible when blown up X25 their normal size.

I'm enjoying the work you are doing and following along.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Excellent update, and commendable work to get things done.

But I have to say your keyboard really got my attention.

The Cadian squad looks great! Don't worry about too many fiddly things... macro photography is extremely unkind and all but the most masterfully painted miniatures look pretty horrible when blown up X25 their normal size.

I'm enjoying the work you are doing and following along.

Yeah I know but I worked on it and I got them acceptable.


I fixed some of the cadian stuff up, it looks pretty damn good I think now. The base needs to be gone over again and the boots need some detail I reckon but otherwise they can be called finished.



But what I'm looking forward to right now is these guys getting done.


They look pretty wicked next to their chimera, and when I finish harkers model properly he'll go well with them also. I should really paint up the extras for all my chimeras and basilisks so they look nice. And the sentinels too. Soon.

That's all for now but I'm progressing quickly!

I ask one favor:

Take a mix of 50/50 Devlan mud wash and water, and brush it over the flesh parts of your miniatures. Let dry, and then do a light drybrush of your flesh color. You'll be happy with the results.

Looking great!

--Brian

Impressive progress! You're making me feel like I really need to get some painting done.

I really like the detail and the cohesiveness the units have, it's obvious who goes with what vehicle and that's really cool.

Briancj wrote:I ask one favor:

Take a mix of 50/50 Devlan mud wash and water, and brush it over the flesh parts of your miniatures. Let dry, and then do a light drybrush of your flesh color. You'll be happy with the results.

Looking great!

--Brian

I actually do quite a few layers of highlights on hands, faces I try to but with the small recesses its a little harder. And I've already done a 50/50 mix of devlan wash on the entire models, it's just never as obvious as I'd like it to be. But I will highlight over what I've got and see how it comes out.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Impressive progress! You're making me feel like I really need to get some painting done.

I really like the detail and the cohesiveness the units have, it's obvious who goes with what vehicle and that's really cool.

The other two vet squads arn't as obvious next to their chimeras, but I make do ha. Thanks! And yes, get painting done. It's a pain but worth it in the end.

Rock on, then!

Nice work man, the squads are looking great.
I agree with the extra wash on the faces, but yeah, they're all looking pretty good.

I'm finally putting some paint on some models to join you on the board sometime soon

I'll have to give the board a cheap spray paint just for effect. Would be cool to maybe paint some rough roads on them too incase we feel like using them.

I think I might have to do the belts. Might do a brown instead of the cadian standard black.
I did highlight the fingers and hands and faces of all of them, they might not be all that visible but I definitely did it ha.


I could also clean up bits and pieces around the model, so I'll be keeping an eye out for that today and see what gets done.


Oh man the camera brings out all the mistakes. Well I've still got work to do clearly.

Okay, here are my thoughts.

omgitsduane wrote:I think I might have to do the belts. Might do a brown instead of the cadian standard black.
I did highlight the fingers and hands and faces of all of them, they might not be all that visible but I definitely did it ha.

Hmmm... I don't think you need to worry about the belts, if you do, grey should be fine, but brown will work if you're keen for it.. Also, I,m not too sure on the blood on the bayonets.. You know my feelings towards blood on models in general, but the blood here looks very... bright.

omgitsduane wrote:I could also clean up bits and pieces around the model, so I'll be keeping an eye out for that today and see what gets done.


Oh man the camera brings out all the mistakes. Well I've still got work to do clearly.

Repeat on the blood thing, although it doesn't look so bad on this guy for some reason..
I see where you've done te highlights on the face, but it's still not quite sitting right with me.. It looks fine for tabletop, but if you're interested in adding a little more, try another brown wash, in my opinion, and slo leave the wash in the eys to darken the area up a bit.

All in all they look quite good, and this guy especially. One other thing, I've already mentioned to you that the weathering on the armor looks more like an attempt at camo.. What I think you should do is, highlight the brown, with a silver, probs boltgun metal, so it looks like the paint has chipped or something, and this will stop it looking so 'camo'ish.

Either way man, great effort on this unit, definitely a general painting improvement, and you're only gona get better!
Good stuff!!

JBrehaut wrote:Okay, here are my thoughts.

omgitsduane wrote:I think I might have to do the belts. Might do a brown instead of the cadian standard black.
I did highlight the fingers and hands and faces of all of them, they might not be all that visible but I definitely did it ha.

Hmmm... I don't think you need to worry about the belts, if you do, grey should be fine, but brown will work if you're keen for it.. Also, I,m not too sure on the blood on the bayonets.. You know my feelings towards blood on models in general, but the blood here looks very... bright.

omgitsduane wrote:I could also clean up bits and pieces around the model, so I'll be keeping an eye out for that today and see what gets done.


Oh man the camera brings out all the mistakes. Well I've still got work to do clearly.

Repeat on the blood thing, although it doesn't look so bad on this guy for some reason..
I see where you've done te highlights on the face, but it's still not quite sitting right with me.. It looks fine for tabletop, but if you're interested in adding a little more, try another brown wash, in my opinion, and slo leave the wash in the eys to darken the area up a bit.

All in all they look quite good, and this guy especially. One other thing, I've already mentioned to you that the weathering on the armor looks more like an attempt at camo.. What I think you should do is, highlight the brown, with a silver, probs boltgun metal, so it looks like the paint has chipped or something, and this will stop it looking so 'camo'ish.

Either way man, great effort on this unit, definitely a general painting improvement, and you're only gona get better!
Good stuff!!

I don't really like the blood either. I was just trying to think of a way to show that they've escaped the emperors grasp by the skin of their teeth sort of thing. I could just go over it with maybe a wash of brown or something to make it seem a bit darker.
I was going to do the silver highlights over the brown spots, but the problem is I don't really see their armor being composed of metal underneath, so i stopped dead there.
Otherwise I am happy with them, and I'm glad you are too


Almost got the commando vets done. I think there isn't much else I could add to these, clearly I need to fix up some lines here and there but I think its passable.


I'll be starting to paint up my basic infantry squads soon, so hopefully they get easier the more I get done.