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sparkywtf wrote:I will check texts while driving. I will answer the phone once in awhile to see if its important. Never on the freeway unless its like a convey type situation for directions.

Make sure you tell the police it was an important call when you cause an accident, they'll understand I'm sure

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HellsGuardian316 wrote:
sparkywtf wrote:I will check texts while driving. I will answer the phone once in awhile to see if its important. Never on the freeway unless its like a convey type situation for directions.

Make sure you tell the police it was an important call when you cause an accident, they'll understand I'm sure


This, indeed. I wonder, how important must a call be to justify the death of another person because you smashed into their car whilst not paying attention?

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HellsGuardian316 wrote:
sparkywtf wrote:I will check texts while driving. I will answer the phone once in awhile to see if its important. Never on the freeway unless its like a convey type situation for directions.

Make sure you tell the police it was an important call when you cause an accident, they'll understand I'm sure


This, indeed. I wonder, how important must a call be to justify the death of another person because you smashed into their car whilst not paying attention?


Didn't you know, the phone call about how uber rad last night was is much more important than the lifes of the people he will hit not seeing the red light. Or the car doing an emegancy stop in front. Or the Biker in the next lane he will not see when he pulls across. etc etc.

 
   
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filbert wrote:
Ouze wrote:
filbert wrote:Once, whilst on holiday in America, I saw a young lady steering her car with her feet whilst applying make-up with her hands.


It's critical skills like these that allowed us to throw off the shackles of our British oppressors. I suppose it was an intimidating sight, that - the raw American exceptionalism that allowed our country to mount the world as a conquered steed, while yours is reduced to slowly whittling away at our economy with your plastic spacemens.

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Something like that. I certainly admired the flexibility demonstrated - I assume she had one foot on or near the pedals and the other shoeless foot was grasping the steering wheel. It definitely demonstrated remarkable agility.


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ineptus astartes wrote:I ask questions.

Right, so you asked some questions (presumably to young teens, who are fething clueless about such matters) about what it's like to get high, and suddenly you think you're qualified to say what is and isn't a dangerous substance to drive under the influence of? Rad. Do me and everyone around you a favour - never drive. Cannabis is a powerful narcotic substance; it affects people in different ways, but it most certainly does not just make you feel a bit 'floaty', and I most certainly would not recommend trying to control a bomb-on-wheels at high speed when baked. Weed can affect your concentration in a major way, it can make your reactions sluggish, and in extreme cases, can make you hallucinate or give you panic attacks. Don't be so stupid as to suggest that you can drive well whilst stoned. You can't.

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nope. I was asking my mom because I was dong a report on the adverse affects on drunk driving, I wanted something totally unbelievable to compare it with, I got it.

(And my mom was a teacher for 6 years, as well as a journalist her whole life, she knows this stuff)

And about it being a hallucinogen? Bullgak.

I am not saying that it is 'alright' to drive whilst stoned. I am saying that if given the choice between being driven by a guy who has been drinking and a man who has been smoking weed, go with the junkie.

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ineptus astartes wrote:

I am not saying that it is 'alright' to drive whilst stoned. I am saying that if given the choice between being driven by a guy who has been drinking and a man who has been smoking weed, go with the junkie.


Tbh if those were my only choices... I think I'd rather walk, unless I utterly desperately needed to get somewhere. (And then I'd call myself crazy!) I've been offered a ride in a car by someone who was stoned, didn't get in and saw how they drove down the road... not better than drink at all!


I'll agree with most here and say texting while driving is just plain idiocy. Being currently a non-driver (planning on fixing that next year) I am often forced to take a ride with someone who uses a mobile while driving, not a hands-free one either and their driving is definately affected in a bad way... though they swear otherwise. I have to cope with this however as its not someone I can say anything too.... or I don't get to go to important hospital appointments.

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iving and texting is just like doing it in a bike. exept that bike is a one-ton peice of metal with a combustable gasoline tank hurtling along at 40 MPH.

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ineptus astartes wrote:iving and texting is just like doing it in a bike. exept that bike is a one-ton peice of metal with a combustable gasoline tank hurtling along at 40 MPH.


Man, I have got to get me one of these one-ton megabikes!

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ineptus astartes wrote:driving and texting is just like doing it in a bike. exept that bike is a one-ton peice of metal with a combustable gasoline tank hurtling along at 40 MPH.


I agree, you can actually get killed by a cyclist as daft as it might sound. Though obviously a car will be travelling at a much greater speed and impact more of the body, thus making it more dangerous.

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Apologies for my post going more off topic, but thought this might be useful on the Cannabis statements
http://www.urban75.com/Drugs/drugdope.html
Partial Quote from link above -- Most cannabis is pretty mild, although recent varieties such as skunk, northern lights and purple haze can have a very strong - and sometimes hallucinogenic - effect.

Its possible she might not be aware of the varients mentioned that do cause hallucinogenic effects. My mother is a teacher aswell so I know they have enough on their plates


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ineptus astartes wrote:nope. I was asking my mom because I was dong a report on the adverse affects on drunk driving, I wanted something totally unbelievable to compare it with, I got it.

(And my mom was a teacher for 6 years, as well as a journalist her whole life, she knows this stuff)

Being a journalist and a teacher doesn't necessarily mean she knows gak about drugs, sorry.

And about it being a hallucinogen? Bullgak.

Once again, you know this how? You're talking out of your arse, son. You need to come back once you actually have some experience in these matters. I've been smoking pot since before you could walk, and I can attest to the fact that in sufficient 'doses', weed can alter your vision and hearing - certainly enough to affect your driving ability. Don't try to school me when you haven't got a fething clue what you're chatting.

I am not saying that it is 'alright' to drive whilst stoned. I am saying that if given the choice between being driven by a guy who has been drinking and a man who has been smoking weed, go with the junkie.

...based on on the fact that your mum has seemingly told you that weed makes you feel a bit 'floaty'. Which is horsegak. Also, smoking pot doesn't make you a heroin addict, so the word 'junkie' is inaccurate in this context.

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I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


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Speaking of walking, I do remember reading that MILES PER TRAVELED, its more dangerous to walk drunk than to drive drunk. I wonder how the comparison is for texting

I fudging hate people who text while walking in the parking lot! Cant they see I'm parking here

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kenshin620 wrote:Speaking of walking, I do remember reading that MILES PER TRAVELED, its more dangerous to walk drunk than to drive drunk.


Yeah, I think I got that one recently.

I shouldn't have drunk so much, especially when walking down a street where it has those old fashioned spiral staircases going straight down.

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I never text while driving. It's stupid, unsafe, and against the law... And I could spill my beer!

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I say institute the death penalty for the first offense of getting pulled over for it. Okay, that's a little harsh. Perhaps just immediate revocation of you driver's license.

If you have that little regard for the other people on the road, you shouldn't be driving.

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ineptus astartes wrote:nope. I was asking my mom because I was dong a report on the adverse affects on drunk driving, I wanted something totally unbelievable to compare it with, I got it.

(And my mom was a teacher for 6 years, as well as a journalist her whole life, she knows this stuff)

And about it being a hallucinogen? Bullgak.

I am not saying that it is 'alright' to drive whilst stoned. I am saying that if given the choice between being driven by a guy who has been drinking and a man who has been smoking weed, go with the junkie.


Guess I'll step in here.

While weed is somewhat less dangerous then drunk driving, it's still extremely dangerous to do so.

And it is hallucinogenic in large doses, but these doses can't be achieved by smoking, that's why space cake was invented.

If given that choice, you walk.

And Albatross, the word junky can be applied to weed addicts. It's not a physical addiction, I know, but it messes up your brain just as much.
   
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ineptus astartes wrote:And about it being a hallucinogen? Bullgak.


Wrong again.

It's definitely classified as a hallucinogen.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/293752-overview

Drugs classified as hallucinogens (abbreviated)

Lysergamides
Lysergic acid diethylamide
Lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide (in morning glory seeds and Hawaiian baby woodrose)
Indolealkylamines
Psilocybin
Psilocin
Bufotenin
Dimethyltryptamine (DMT)
Alpha-methyltryptamine (AMT)
5-methoxy,-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (5-MeO-DMT)
5-methoxy,-N,N-diisopropyl-tryptamine (5-MeO-DIPT)
Phenylethylamines
Mescaline
Methamphetamines
3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA)
3,4-methylenedioxyethamphetamine (MDEA)
3-methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxyamphetamine (MMDA)
4-methyl-2,5-dimethoxymethamphetamine (DOM)
Piperidines
Ketamine
Phencyclidine (PCP)
Cannabinols - Tetrahydrocannabinol (marijuana, hashish)

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Albatross wrote:...based on on the fact that your mum has seemingly told you that weed makes you feel a bit 'floaty'. Which is horsegak. Also, smoking pot doesn't make you a heroin addict, so the word 'junkie' is inaccurate in this context.


It does make you tear into pizza boxes and doritos bags, then leaves you lazy enough to leave them all over the place, so maybe he meant 'junky'.


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kenshin620 wrote:Speaking of walking, I do remember reading that MILES PER TRAVELED, its more dangerous to walk drunk than to drive drunk. I wonder how the comparison is for texting


That's because driving is 10-60 times faster than walking, so a distance that takes a few minutes driving can take hours walking, especially if you're weaving around and falling and such. A 20 mile drive is often less than 30 minutes on the road, but walking it would take around a day, plus you'd be sober long before you finished the walk unless you kept drinking as you walked.

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I see it all of the time in Houston. It's wreckless driving, to be honest. I've also seen people reading books and magazines while driving, unfolding a huge map that covers the steering wheel and parts of the window.


Holy cow, Houston is one of the worst places to drive in America, imo. It reminds me of driving in Mexico in that it is as if most vehicle operators are not aware of the fact there are indeed seperate lanes, and posted speed limits. Not only that, many seem to have an air of ' i dont care if something happens to my car and i assume you feel the same'.



Well you do realize a substantial portion of the drivers in Houston are, in fact, from Mexico (or other Central American country)?

But agreed. I'll take California drivers any day of the week over Houston drivers. Its particularly exhilarating to be moving slowly through a rain squall (back in the time when it rained here) and have a pickup come flying through, as if they are impervious to water. Saw one spin 360 into a ditch doing that.

Wjhats interesting is that, when in Austin, I go berserk if driving. They are so mellow, so slow, I just want to leap out the car, rip their doors off and scream in their faces. "GO FOR THE SWEET LOVE OF BABY JESUS'S COCONUT EATING DINOSAUR JUST ING GO!!!" The Wife generally drives when I am in Austin...



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filbert wrote:
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filbert wrote:Once, whilst on holiday in America, I saw a young lady steering her car with her feet whilst applying make-up with her hands.


It's critical skills like these that allowed us to throw off the shackles of our British oppressors. I suppose it was an intimidating sight, that - the raw American exceptionalism that allowed our country to mount the world as a conquered steed, while yours is reduced to slowly whittling away at our economy with your plastic spacemens.

USA! USA! USA!


Something like that. I certainly admired the flexibility demonstrated - I assume she had one foot on or near the pedals and the other shoeless foot was grasping the steering wheel. It definitely demonstrated remarkable agility.


Unless you saw her feet she was probably knee driving.

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Frazzled wrote:

Unless you saw her feet she was probably knee driving.



Negatory - her foot and toes were curled around the steering wheel in the manner of a surrogate hand.

Her other leg/foot was nowhere to be seen - I assume it was operating the pedals (unless she was one-legged).

It was one of those double take moments - the kind where you absolutely, positively cannot believe what your eyes are telling you.

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MrDwhitey wrote:Sources and backing Monster? That's not how you debate on the internet!


Ah yes, silly me.

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For those who asked up above about when is an important time to talk on the phone while driving.

Mostly it has to do with work. If we get a phone call from the FAA about a chemical leak or something from DOT on a spill, we HAVE to answer the phone, no matter what. To not answer is a federal offense.

Also, when driving later at night on my way home, and a parent calls, it is usually something bad that can't wait. I would much rather know ASAP that my mom is getting sent to the hospital then find about it the next day because I didn't pick up a phone call.

   
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What, you can't pull over ever?

Of course it's understandable in some cases to pick up the phone and answer it, but you should be making your way to pull over as soon as possible.

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sparkywtf wrote:For those who asked up above about when is an important time to talk on the phone while driving.

Mostly it has to do with work. If we get a phone call from the FAA about a chemical leak or something from DOT on a spill, we HAVE to answer the phone, no matter what. To not answer is a federal offense.

Also, when driving later at night on my way home, and a parent calls, it is usually something bad that can't wait. I would much rather know ASAP that my mom is getting sent to the hospital then find about it the next day because I didn't pick up a phone call.


those both sound like reasonable times to talk on the phone while driving. but isnt this about texting?

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MrDwhitey wrote:What, you can't pull over ever?


going 80mph in the fast lane isn't exactly the easiest thing to pull over from. But yes, when the call happens (which it hasn't yet for me) pulling over is part of the plan, after answering the phone.

dajobe wrote:those both sound like reasonable times to talk on the phone while driving. but isnt this about texting?


Yes this thread is. But I also mentioned that I will answer the phone while driving. And someone asked if anything is that important to kill someone else. Although I am never distracted while on the phone, I probably pay more attention instead of nodding off in boredom.

Also now, since I use my phone for music while I drive, when I answer it goes into speaker phone mode and uses my cars speakers for the call.

   
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ineptus astartes wrote:nope. I was asking my mom because I was dong a report on the adverse affects on drunk driving, I wanted something totally unbelievable to compare it with, I got it.

(And my mom was a teacher for 6 years, as well as a journalist her whole life, she knows this stuff)

And about it being a hallucinogen? Bullgak.

I am not saying that it is 'alright' to drive whilst stoned. I am saying that if given the choice between being driven by a guy who has been drinking and a man who has been smoking weed, go with the junkie.


Guess I'll step in here.

While weed is somewhat less dangerous then drunk driving, it's still extremely dangerous to do so.

Yep. I equate it to the choice between having either a rottweiler or a wolf attacking your bollocks. Yes, the wolf will feth you up worse, but the other option is still a rottweiler.


And it is hallucinogenic in large doses, but these doses can't be achieved by smoking, that's why space cake was invented.

Amsterdam lol.


If given that choice, you walk.

Agreed.

And Albatross, the word junky can be applied to weed addicts. It's not a physical addiction, I know, but it messes up your brain just as much.

The 'junk' part of the word is a reference to the colloquial term for heroin.

I'm getting English lessons from foreigners and drug advice from home-schooled teenagers!

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I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


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Frazzled wrote:
thedude wrote:

I see it all of the time in Houston. It's wreckless driving, to be honest. I've also seen people reading books and magazines while driving, unfolding a huge map that covers the steering wheel and parts of the window.


Holy cow, Houston is one of the worst places to drive in America, imo. It reminds me of driving in Mexico in that it is as if most vehicle operators are not aware of the fact there are indeed seperate lanes, and posted speed limits. Not only that, many seem to have an air of ' i dont care if something happens to my car and i assume you feel the same'.



Well you do realize a substantial portion of the drivers in Houston are, in fact, from Mexico (or other Central American country)?

But agreed. I'll take California drivers any day of the week over Houston drivers. Its particularly exhilarating to be moving slowly through a rain squall (back in the time when it rained here) and have a pickup come flying through, as if they are impervious to water. Saw one spin 360 into a ditch doing that.



i wonder if people thought that of me when i was driving in Phoenix during monsoon season, because here on the east coast we get rain all the time so its not hard to drive in. in Phoenix... if it pours everybody starts going 35MPH, the first time this happened i thought there was an accident and then i realized people are not used to driving in the rain.

 
   
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Plus, if it hasn't rained in a long while, all of the oil and film that has soaked into the concrete seeps out and mixes with the water. This makes it even more dangerous when it first starts to rain.

Just something you have to keep in mind in the South West. (Or anywhere, really).

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