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Your typical stormtrooper doesn't stand a chance against your average Astartes.

As far as their physical attributes, I would say they're well-conditioned unaugmented humans, with artificial augmentations being present every now and then.
   
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Coolyo294 wrote:But this isn't three Stormtroopers fighting one Space Marine. This is a mano-e-mano fight between the two.


Well then im out of useful references, Generally the Hellgun a Stormtrooper would carry is capable of penetrating Power Armour and hence able to killing the marine inside as Void said, so then I think a Stormtrooper alone is capable of killing a Space Marine given the proper situation/scenario. I will leave it at that and allow others to expand on my opinion on the subject with the info I have submitted.

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Banahir wrote:
Coolyo294 wrote:But this isn't three Stormtroopers fighting one Space Marine. This is a mano-e-mano fight between the two.


Well then im out of useful references, Generally the Hellgun a Stormtrooper would carry is capable of penetrating Power Armour and hence able to killing the marine inside as Void said, so then I think a Stormtrooper alone is capable of killing a Space Marine given the proper situation/scenario. I will leave it at that and allow others to expand on my opinion on the subject with the info I have submitted.


This is still assuming the Space Marine is walking into battle with his thumb up his ass and not with his Bolter at the ready. And it also makes assumptions based on tabletop stats which are never a good representation of a fluff based question. For example, Storm troopers get saves against Bolters, but Bolters in fluff don't really have trouble breaching something like carapace armour.

Going off weapons, while a Hellgun would penetrate power armour, it likely wouldn't do enough damage to a Space Marine to kill him - as said earlier, look at the amount of Marines that have half bionic faces from a headshot that failed to kill them. While a bolt would detonate inside the Stormtrooper and utterly destroy his insides in a single shot. If they got anywhere near fisticuffs range, the Stormtrooper would stand even less of a chance. A Space Marine just punching an un-augmented human would break bones with every strike.

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-Loki- wrote:For example, Storm troopers get saves against Bolters, but Bolters in fluff don't really have trouble breaching something like carapace armour.
Based on what?

I haven't seen any fluff that shows what would happen when a bolt-round connects with carapace armour.
   
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-Loki- wrote:as said earlier, look at the amount of Marines that have half bionic faces from a headshot that failed to kill them
Is that amount smaller or greater than the number of Inquisitors, Sisters and Guardsmen having half-bionic faces?

1 - helmets save lives, regardless of who wears them ... they don't always save the pretty faces they cover, though
2 - given the amount of Marines gleefully foregoing such pleasantries as helmets, face injury does not always have to be the result of a direct hit

As far as carapace armour is concerned, here's a snippet from the Wargear book:

"Carapace armour is simply made up of large rigid plates of armaplas or ceramite moulded to fit parts of the body. It may take the form of a complete armoured suit like those worn by the Adeptus Arbites or separate parts such as chest pieces, helmets, etc. Carapace armour is commonly found in all the military arms of the Imperium such as the Imperial Guard and the Navy. Indeed, the carapace breastplate worn by Imperial Guard officers is as much a badge of rank as it is a piece of armour. Carapace armour offers good protection but can be tiring to wear in extended battles."

Now, it is probably worth pointing out that power armour is made from ceramite plating as well. We can assume it's simply a bit thicker, explaining the better save, whereas carapace still offers some protection against even bolt weaponry as well. Obviously, a bolt has no problem penetrating flak armour, but when it can be negated by power armour, who is to say that carapace as the "middle thing" does not have a similar effect? Why should it be as inefficient as flak? It stands to reason that bolt penetration does not switch from "always and easily punches through" to "has some chance at penetrating" without a step between, which (given its stats) would be covered by carapace.
   
 
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