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LordofHats wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

Goddard wrote:How does one unlock the pre-order armor set?

Google has failed me.

You have to unlock the Customizer first. Then it'll work.

I'm not so sure. I needed to contact support to get my Blood Ravens pre-order armor. They got it too me fast but I did not have it from the start.

All I know is my Gamestop Armor download didn't work before Level 4, I hit 4 and I was suddenly able to DL when I couldn't before.

LordofHats wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

Goddard wrote:How does one unlock the pre-order armor set?

Google has failed me.

You have to unlock the Customizer first. Then it'll work.

I'm not so sure. I needed to contact support to get my Blood Ravens pre-order armor. They got it too me fast but I did not have it from the start.

I have all of the armors even though i didnt get gamestop preorder, only the best buy...
Think i got lucky

chaos0xomega wrote:

daedalus-templarius wrote:

LordofHats wrote:
No but most people stop playing when they're bored. There isn't much in SM to entertain people for more than two, maybe three weeks? Thats how long I give it anyway.

Geez, I guess. I love the game and I could see myself playing the multiplayer for a long time, especially the horde mode in October.

How long did you give Reach? ffs I'm STILL playing that.

Yeah, but you're a fan of the setting, you're going to make up a very small subset of the games online population.

As for Reach, I don't know anyone that still plays it personally.

Well, there are tons of people that still play Reach; I still get games almost immediately.

I'm sorry you don't 'personally' know anyone that plays it.

Getting games via a matchmaking service =/= tons of players. A properly programmed/designed matchmaker will make not function any differently regardless of how many players are online, be it 20 or 20 million. If you can give me an accurate count of average numbers of unique players in the past month, then we're getting somewhere.

derp http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/online.aspx

508,649 players online in last 24h

928,214 games played last 24h

<shakes fist at air> no one plays anymore!!!!

Usually in a matchmaker you can tell how many people are playing by whether or not you keep playing the same people over and over. For example, in War for Cybertron about two weeks after release, I played with the same 60 or 70 people in every game.

In Escalation, I held the #1 slot on the leader board. A year ago. When I looked the game back up to screw around three months ago, I was still in the top 5 players. #5 to be specific without playing for nearly a year.

daedalus-templarius wrote:derp http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/online.aspx

508,649 players online in last 24h

928,214 games played last 24h

<shakes fist at air> no one plays anymore!!!!

While thats by no means a small number, Reach sold 3.3 million copies in the US alone as of September last year. Add in global sales, and all the sales since then, and you're probably looking at total figures of 5+ million copies (I estimate). That means ~10% of players who purchased the game (globally) still play. 10% means most players have moved on. It doesn't mean that no one plays, just not a lot of people play. And thats assuming total sales WEREN'T in excess of approx. 5 million.

chaos0xomega wrote:

daedalus-templarius wrote:derp http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/online.aspx

508,649 players online in last 24h

928,214 games played last 24h

<shakes fist at air> no one plays anymore!!!!

While thats by no means a small number, Reach sold 3.3 million copies in the US alone as of September last year. Add in global sales, and all the sales since then, and you're probably looking at total figures of 5+ million copies (I estimate). That means ~10% of players who purchased the game (globally) still play. 10% means most players have moved on. It doesn't mean that no one plays, just not a lot of people play. And thats assuming total sales WEREN'T in excess of approx. 5 million.

Are you really arguing that "not a lot of people play" when nearly a half million people played it in the past 24 hours? That most people have moved on is different from a community or game dying or no longer being played. 500,000 is very strong and on a weekday at that. I doubt Space Marine will even come close to that number. A year after launch, I'd be shocked to see the number of players over 1,000. Having a half-million user base after a year is superb for a video game.

EDIT: I'd also propose not everyone plays on a daily basis. Examine users over the course of a month (none of us have the resources to actually do this though). I'd be willing to bet that Reach has retained about a 1/3 of the buyers playing a little bit regularly.

You literally have no leg to stand on.

chaos0xomega wrote:

daedalus-templarius wrote:derp http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/online.aspx

508,649 players online in last 24h

928,214 games played last 24h

<shakes fist at air> no one plays anymore!!!!

While thats by no means a small number, Reach sold 3.3 million copies in the US alone as of September last year. Add in global sales, and all the sales since then, and you're probably looking at total figures of 5+ million copies (I estimate). That means ~10% of players who purchased the game (globally) still play. 10% means most players have moved on. It doesn't mean that no one plays, just not a lot of people play. And thats assuming total sales WEREN'T in excess of approx. 5 million.

wtf.

I am done with you.

Pretty sure you are just here to cry.

Considering that I'm not the one getting in a huff that other people are saying they dislike Space Marine, I would say I'm not the one crying...

Well I've been taking it slow. Just arrived at the Chaos invasion. I suspect that the reason that it's so short has to do with time and budget - I mean, they totally scrapped the original version of Space Marine, save more or less for character models, and even those were probably reworked.

Not to mention, Relic has that "Secret Project" that they're working on, which I hope like hell is a Company of Heroes: Vietnam. Or even a modern setting, though I'd like to see then take on Vietnam or Korea.

But more to the point, hopefully they'll expand on Space Marine with a boatload of DLC down the road.

I thought the 'secret project' was another 40k related working?

I'm not going to spend 50 euro on an 8 hour game, even if it is warhammer.

Toastedandy wrote:I'm not going to spend 50 euro on an 8 hour game, even if it is warhammer.

Play multiplayer?

Play the campaign once on normal, and once on hard?

Horde mode next month with friends?

Toastedandy wrote:I'm not going to spend 50 euro on an 8 hour game, even if it is warhammer.

I've logged 10+ hours into multiplayer. It's fun as all hell.

daedalus-templarius wrote:

Toastedandy wrote:I'm not going to spend 50 euro on an 8 hour game, even if it is warhammer.

Play multiplayer?

Play the campaign once on normal, and once on hard?

Horde mode next month with friends?

Those of us without friends lack one or more of those options.

MrDwhitey wrote:

daedalus-templarius wrote:

Toastedandy wrote:I'm not going to spend 50 euro on an 8 hour game, even if it is warhammer.

Play multiplayer?

Play the campaign once on normal, and once on hard?

Horde mode next month with friends?

Those of us without friends lack one or more of those options.

Well, you can still play the horde mode with strangers

They don't have to be your friends.

MrDwhitey wrote:

daedalus-templarius wrote:

Toastedandy wrote:I'm not going to spend 50 euro on an 8 hour game, even if it is warhammer.

Play multiplayer?

Play the campaign once on normal, and once on hard?

Horde mode next month with friends?

Those of us without friends lack one or more of those options.

Dwhitey, do you need someone to play Space Marine with?

I don't even have it.

Planning to get it in a bit, but I'm mainly PS3 and everyone on this forum seems to be a Xboxer.

I guess I could pour coal into the xbox and see if it still runs...

Play with us on the Xbox. DO ET.

MrDwhitey wrote:

daedalus-templarius wrote:

Toastedandy wrote:I'm not going to spend 50 euro on an 8 hour game, even if it is warhammer.

Play multiplayer?

Play the campaign once on normal, and once on hard?

Horde mode next month with friends?

Those of us without friends lack one or more of those options.

That's why there is a matchmaking system. You don't need to know anyone else who plays.


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Toastedandy wrote:I'm not going to spend 50 euro on an 8 hour game, even if it is warhammer.

Cool story bro.

Guess I can't say no to a Shark in a suit.

No you can't. Anyway, everyone in the DCM A.R.S have a Xbox.

daedalus-templarius wrote:

Toastedandy wrote:I'm not going to spend 50 euro on an 8 hour game, even if it is warhammer.

Play multiplayer?

Play the campaign once on normal, and once on hard?

Horde mode next month with friends?

Xbox live ran out, and with college around the corner, I'll prob pick it up a few months down the line.

nectarprime wrote:

Toastedandy wrote:I'm not going to spend 50 euro on an 8 hour game, even if it is warhammer.

Cool story bro.

Cool reply bro.

chaos0xomega wrote:I thought the 'secret project' was another 40k related working?

That's only one of the many rumours. Relic hasn't confirmed -anything- on it yet. The only announcement they've made recently is an announcement to announce that the announcement that they were supposed to announce at PAX was going to be delayed due to gearing Space Marine up for launch.

Yea. Mega facepalm by Relic.

They have said that it is -not- a new Homeworld game. Otherwise, they've clumsily skirted around any sort of direct answer.

metallifan wrote:Well I've been taking it slow. Just arrived at the Chaos invasion. I suspect that the reason that it's so short has to do with time and budget - I mean, they totally scrapped the original version of Space Marine, save more or less for character models, and even those were probably reworked.

Not to mention, Relic has that "Secret Project" that they're working on, which I hope like hell is a Company of Heroes: Vietnam. Or even a modern setting, though I'd like to see then take on Vietnam or Korea.

But more to the point, hopefully they'll expand on Space Marine with a boatload of DLC down the road.

Chaos invasion? Damn you spoilers!!!

Chowderhead wrote:Play with us on the Xbox. DO ET.

Get it on PS3! FTW!

Jollydevil wrote:

metallifan wrote:Well I've been taking it slow. Just arrived at the Chaos invasion. I suspect that the reason that it's so short has to do with time and budget - I mean, they totally scrapped the original version of Space Marine, save more or less for character models, and even those were probably reworked.

Not to mention, Relic has that "Secret Project" that they're working on, which I hope like hell is a Company of Heroes: Vietnam. Or even a modern setting, though I'd like to see then take on Vietnam or Korea.

But more to the point, hopefully they'll expand on Space Marine with a boatload of DLC down the road.

Chaos invasion? Damn you spoilers!!!

Hardly, considering it's in the screenshots and such

metallifan wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:

metallifan wrote:Well I've been taking it slow. Just arrived at the Chaos invasion. I suspect that the reason that it's so short has to do with time and budget - I mean, they totally scrapped the original version of Space Marine, save more or less for character models, and even those were probably reworked.

Not to mention, Relic has that "Secret Project" that they're working on, which I hope like hell is a Company of Heroes: Vietnam. Or even a modern setting, though I'd like to see then take on Vietnam or Korea.

But more to the point, hopefully they'll expand on Space Marine with a boatload of DLC down the road.

Chaos invasion? Damn you spoilers!!!

Hardly, considering it's in the screenshots and such

I expected it anyways.

Jollydevil wrote:

metallifan wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:

metallifan wrote:Well I've been taking it slow. Just arrived at the Chaos invasion. I suspect that the reason that it's so short has to do with time and budget - I mean, they totally scrapped the original version of Space Marine, save more or less for character models, and even those were probably reworked.

Not to mention, Relic has that "Secret Project" that they're working on, which I hope like hell is a Company of Heroes: Vietnam. Or even a modern setting, though I'd like to see then take on Vietnam or Korea.

But more to the point, hopefully they'll expand on Space Marine with a boatload of DLC down the road.

Chaos invasion? Damn you spoilers!!!

Hardly, considering it's in the screenshots and such

I expected it anyways.

Yea... I think a good rule of thumb with Relic is as follows:

Chaos is like Herpes. You know it's going to show up, but you don't know -when-.