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kronk wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:
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kronk wrote:Honorable Mention: Tank Hunters on Cyclone Missile Launcher sporting Black Templar Terminators. Only 3 points per teminator.

Also, it will make their storm bolters S5, which can glance a rhino.


2nd honorable mention: Furious Charge on Black Templar Assault terminators. 3 points per model for +1I and +1S doesn't suck with Lightning claws that reroll to hit and wound.

It basically makes their storm-bolters a short-range version of the gun every single infantry model in my army gets.

Impressive.

Nice. But you're focusing on the wrong part. Do you have something that can move 6", shoot 4 times at S9AP3, and then assault what it shot with 5 powerfists at S9 (if the launchers didn't kill it's target) while sporting a 2+/5++?

Didn't think so...

I have two mantas though.

Each one can shoot close to 100 times per turn.

Including two heavy rail guns.

Mantas are Apoc. They don't count.

im2randomghgh wrote:

kronk wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:
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kronk wrote:Honorable Mention: Tank Hunters on Cyclone Missile Launcher sporting Black Templar Terminators. Only 3 points per teminator.

Also, it will make their storm bolters S5, which can glance a rhino.


2nd honorable mention: Furious Charge on Black Templar Assault terminators. 3 points per model for +1I and +1S doesn't suck with Lightning claws that reroll to hit and wound.

It basically makes their storm-bolters a short-range version of the gun every single infantry model in my army gets.

Impressive.

Nice. But you're focusing on the wrong part. Do you have something that can move 6", shoot 4 times at S9AP3, and then assault what it shot with 5 powerfists at S9 (if the launchers didn't kill it's target) while sporting a 2+/5++?

Didn't think so...

I have two mantas though.

Each one can shoot close to 100 times per turn.

Including two heavy rail guns.

Black Templars don't die when you happen to pass them and cough. Tau do.

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

kronk wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:
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kronk wrote:Honorable Mention: Tank Hunters on Cyclone Missile Launcher sporting Black Templar Terminators. Only 3 points per teminator.

Also, it will make their storm bolters S5, which can glance a rhino.


2nd honorable mention: Furious Charge on Black Templar Assault terminators. 3 points per model for +1I and +1S doesn't suck with Lightning claws that reroll to hit and wound.

It basically makes their storm-bolters a short-range version of the gun every single infantry model in my army gets.

Impressive.

Nice. But you're focusing on the wrong part. Do you have something that can move 6", shoot 4 times at S9AP3, and then assault what it shot with 5 powerfists at S9 (if the launchers didn't kill it's target) while sporting a 2+/5++?

Didn't think so...

I have two mantas though.

Each one can shoot close to 100 times per turn.

Including two heavy rail guns.

Black Templars don't die when you happen to pass them and cough. Tau do.

And to add to this massive quote box:

Considering many Tau have a basic BS stat of 3 without markerlights, its not quite as dependable at shooting as it should be. I mean certainly, markerlights are abundant in a good Tau list, but the fact remains that BS 3 for an army that depends on shooting as its only source of reliable attack is pretty bad. Its like how Termigants with devourers are amazing troops, being able to unload a gakload of dakka at a cheap price, but beacsue they are BS 3 that means usually only about half the shots will get through. BS 3 is redeemable when you can use sheer weight of numbers to back up for lack of shooting accuracy, but most firewarrior squads are very small, and even with a pretty good gun in their hands, alot of shots are gonna miss, and that sinks your boat.

And if we're going to throw Mantas in the mix, Ill throw a Heirophant. That thing just wont die

And don't rhinos have a rear armor of 10, so technically str 4 can glance a Rhino?

Deffrolla.

Painboy.

Swiftblade wrote:

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

kronk wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:
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kronk wrote:Honorable Mention: Tank Hunters on Cyclone Missile Launcher sporting Black Templar Terminators. Only 3 points per teminator.

Also, it will make their storm bolters S5, which can glance a rhino.


2nd honorable mention: Furious Charge on Black Templar Assault terminators. 3 points per model for +1I and +1S doesn't suck with Lightning claws that reroll to hit and wound.

It basically makes their storm-bolters a short-range version of the gun every single infantry model in my army gets.

Impressive.

Nice. But you're focusing on the wrong part. Do you have something that can move 6", shoot 4 times at S9AP3, and then assault what it shot with 5 powerfists at S9 (if the launchers didn't kill it's target) while sporting a 2+/5++?

Didn't think so...

I have two mantas though.

Each one can shoot close to 100 times per turn.

Including two heavy rail guns.

Black Templars don't die when you happen to pass them and cough. Tau do.

And to add to this massive quote box:

Considering many Tau have a basic BS stat of 3 without markerlights, its not quite as dependable at shooting as it should be. I mean certainly, markerlights are abundant in a good Tau list, but the fact remains that BS 3 for an army that depends on shooting as its only source of reliable attack is pretty bad. Its like how Termigants with devourers are amazing troops, being able to unload a gakload of dakka at a cheap price, but beacsue they are BS 3 that means usually only about half the shots will get through. BS 3 is redeemable when you can use sheer weight of numbers to back up for lack of shooting accuracy, but most firewarrior squads are very small, and even with a pretty good gun in their hands, alot of shots are gonna miss, and that sinks your boat.

And if we're going to throw Mantas in the mix, Ill throw a Heirophant. That thing just wont die

And don't rhinos have a rear armor of 10, so technically str 4 can glance a Rhino?

I often lament the lack of basic BS4. But if they did have that, Tau would be a force of nature. Especially since with Basic BS4 and with TA a Crisis team could have BS5

Waaagh banner 15 points (Ghazghkull WS 7 ) for 15 points in a nob squad.

Ima huge fan of Motw at 15 pts a potential 7 rending hits on a charge FTW.

DeffDred wrote:Deffrolla.

Painboy.

A painboy turns a nob squad with the proper mix of crazy weapon loadouts from point sink into death star!

IF you have to pay points 5 points for The Changling if you are talking upgrade, its dark angles the upgade to Sammael jetbike is free to a 14 14 10 land speeder with 4+ invol. You could also argue Multi-Meltas free on Dreads

Herald of Tzeentch's Chariot. 15 pts for +1S, +1T, +3W, +1A, Jetbike, Furious Charge. You lose IC status, but really, how could you not take this upgrade?

KFF

MY WHOLE ARMY GETS COVER SAVES HURR!!!

Camo cloaks essentially give a squad of veterans a 3+ invulnerable save, for 30 pts a squad. Add in go to ground and you can make that 2+, which aint bad.

Holy Orb of Antioch for Black Templars. Costs 10 points, and always wounds on a 2+, and has AP3

Gotta love the Holy Hand Grenade

Monty Python references FTW!

Ascalam wrote:Gotta love the Holy Hand Grenade

Monty Python references FTW!

Indeed

Joey wrote:Camo cloaks essentially give a squad of veterans a 3+ invulnerable save, for 30 pts a squad. Add in go to ground and you can make that 2+, which aint bad.

It gives them +1 to their *cover* save, which may or may not be 3+, and for a squad that costs 70pts base, that's not exactly cheap, there's a reason it's not hugely popular, especially given such units are usually mounted in chimeras where the cloaks don't do anything.

Rocky1 wrote:

Tau Disruption Pods. 5pts for a cover save for all vehicles at 12+"

Gotta be this

Yup. This has my vote. But it's still not enough to help my tau win a game lol

Thunder Shield

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Not an upgrade so much as a unit...

But An'ggrath costs 888 points and gets infinite attacks in melee and is basically unkillable.

Infinite? That's terrible. You'd never stop rolling once you started a combat with him.

5-point Psybolt ammo is pretty ridiculous.

Durza wrote:Infinite? That's terrible. You'd never stop rolling once you started a combat with him.

Not really. You'd just kill the things in B2B REAL fast.

He only gets more attacks when he rolls "6"s , same as the old Axe of Khorne

Disruption pod for tau for 5 points. Vehicles get cover save from anything shooting more than 12 inches away.


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Nvrm someone said it already =[

nosferatu1001 wrote:He only gets more attacks when he rolls "6"s , same as the old Axe of Khorne

Yeah, I mean, the cheating Dreadnaught (DC Dread w/ Blood Talons) will get a ton more extra attacks.

Chowderhead wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:He only gets more attacks when he rolls "6"s , same as the old Axe of Khorne

Yeah, I mean, the cheating Dreadnaught (DC Dread w/ Blood Talons) will get a ton more extra attacks.

An'ggrath has like seven basic attacks plus IIRC three on the charge? so 10+ potentially infinite attacks

Plus, have you seen his statline? It's like they intended for him to be an unstoppable rape-machine.

5 pts. Psybolt Ammo upgrade for a Grey Knight Rifleman Dread must be the most cost-effective upgrade ever.


1. It increases the strength of both weapons at the same prize.

2. It increases the strength of twin-linked weapons making it more likely of being relevant.

3. It make said weapon capable of Insta-Gibbing Toughness 4 models, including such popular things as Marines, Tyranid Warriors and Ork Nobs to name a few.

4. It makes a popular anti-transport weapon even better.


For 5 pts.!!



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Dpods on tau. Practically mandatory.

im2randomghgh wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:He only gets more attacks when he rolls "6"s , same as the old Axe of Khorne

Yeah, I mean, the cheating Dreadnaught (DC Dread w/ Blood Talons) will get a ton more extra attacks.

An'ggrath has like seven basic attacks plus IIRC three on the charge? so 10+ potentially infinite attacks

Plus, have you seen his statline? It's like they intended for him to be an unstoppable rape-machine.

Maybe they did. Nothing shouts 'Run away then shoot me' like a Greater Daemon of Khorne.