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They both win decisively

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Negator80 wrote:Vader lightnings the ammo chains on Calgar's fists, detonating it inside his armor.

Vader wins.

Option 2: Vader uses the force to aim and fire Calgar's weapons at himself.

Option 3: Vader strangles and crushes Calgar's throat from a hologram because frankly, Calgar isn't worth his time

Vader reveals he is Calgar's father

"Noooooooo'

Vader for Emprah!

Calgar wins, he have bigger plot armor.

Not really..

Vader can only die if he chooses to Nothing else is allowed to get a hit in (except arguably his replacement-to-be luke )

Calgar can still get beaten down and almost killed (saved by other people) in the fluff (though GW will never let the doofus in blue die, with their main SM codex-writer having wet dreams about his shiny bald head ... ).

nope sorry Calgar fanboys..its all up to the power of the IP

Calgar belongs to a publicly traded company worth millions.

Lord Vader is the Iconic figurehead of a multi billion franchise.

Lucas detects a tremor in his finacial flow, that a possible upstart personage could assail his dark lord cash cow...

Makes a few calls, and purchases controlling interests in the offending company that holds the reigns to this blue and gold goliath (GW namely )

He demands a re-write and it is done as commanded...

Far away and long ago in the future, Calgar squares his shoulders and locks his jaw while facing the helmeted visage of the dark lord of the sith, before he bends his blue armored knee and intones..."What is thine bidding master...? "

Vader wins cause its all about the moola ..or they could rap battle but vader whould whoop him to, just like hitler... NSFW btw.

Matt Ward just write a story of how Calgar beat Vader, with his tactical genius.

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DeathReaper wrote:1) As many have pointed out, Force unleashed IS canon,

2) you do not have to be a Dark Jedi to use Force Lightning, it is considered a dark side power, but the force is the force and any Jedi has access to it. the power will actually tempt some light side Jedi into using it, to try and sway them to the dark side.

3)See "1)"

1. Yeah no. It was established before that Vader can't use Force Lightning because it would fry out his cybernetic body and signifigantly injure/kill him.

Which Force Unleashed did Vader do this in again?

Oh yeah, and it doesn't really matter. Force Lightning couldn't get past Calgar's Iron Halo, or his Tactical Dreadnought Armour, not to any signifigant degree. Force Lightning is frankly demonstratably less impressive than a bolter.

Though if Force Unleashed is canon, Vader gets the win based off powerscaling of Galen Marek's feats in it.

2. So effectively they will not use it.

DeathReaper wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:
1) Force Unleashed is not canon.

2) Force Lightining is described as a Dark Side power on multiple occasions.

3) It is canon that Vader cannot use Force Lightining because of his prostetic hands, The hands would channel the lightining back to him and kill him.

1) As many have pointed out, Force unleashed IS canon,

2) you do not have to be a Dark Jedi to use Force Lightning, it is considered a dark side power, but the force is the force and any Jedi has access to it. the power will actually tempt some light side Jedi into using it, to try and sway them to the dark side.

3)See "1)"

Whatever,

Regardless, I do NOT remember Vader using Force Lightining at any point in TFU or any of the movies.

2. So effectively they will not use it.

Even Skywalker used Force Choke, though he was never a very far-Light-side Jedi. Lots of Jedi come close to falling several times in their career. Most, however, don't.

Darth vader wins because for some reason the highest ranking space marines don't where helmets.

Psienesis wrote:Even Skywalker used Force Choke, though he was never a very far-Light-side Jedi. Lots of Jedi come close to falling several times in their career. Most, however, don't.

That was done to show he was getting dangerously close to following dad's path, but ultimately was strong enough to resist. It was meant to show Luke was strong, Vader was weak.

But yeah I get what you are saying. It's possible for a Light Side Jedi to use Dark Side powers, just not likely.

Void__Dragon wrote:

Psienesis wrote:Even Skywalker used Force Choke, though he was never a very far-Light-side Jedi. Lots of Jedi come close to falling several times in their career. Most, however, don't.

That was done to show he was getting dangerously close to following dad's path, but ultimately was strong enough to resist. It was meant to show Luke was strong, Vader was weak.

But yeah I get what you are saying. It's possible for a Light Side Jedi to use Force powers, just not likely.

A jedi using Force powers No way!!!!

jk

Vader vs a Culexus assassin = shortest battle ever.

Sry had to point it out.

Apart from his power with the Force, he's a deadly lightsaber duellist.

Those Culexus assassins wear a bodyglove.

Just sayin'.

Psienesis wrote:Apart from his power with the Force, he's a deadly lightsaber duellist.

Those Culexus assassins wear a bodyglove.

Just sayin'.

Lightsabers are keept in "use" by the force, so the Culexus null field will even make the lightsaber useless.
All this providing that the force count as the same as psychic power for a null, but none of this can be 100% proven and is just for fun so pressuming that it is the same then the Culexus will be the bane of the entire Jedia/Sith forces in the galaxy.

salix_fatuus wrote:Lightsabers are keept in "use" by the force, so the Culexus null field will even make the lightsaber useless.

Uh this isn't really true.

Non-Force sensitives can turn on a Lightsaber and even wield one proficiently, as General Grievous has shown.

also Han in the REAL Star Wars movies

Who the hell mentioned the movies?

I was talking about the 15 minute cartoon series, you know, where Grievous was convincingly badass.

I mentioned the movies, that's who ...

Han uses one to cut open the ton-ton (sp?) while Luke is freezing to death...

I've never seen the cartoon series version, but the new movies (not that new any more) lack muchness compared to the original three.

Real impressive swordplay, that Han Solo.

It takes a true master to have defeated thatTon-Ton's stomach, and true mettle to even attempt such a task. Han Solo stepped up to the challenge. Han Solo prevailed.

May the Force be with you.

The Clone Wars cartoons are pretty awesome but... yes, you don't need to be Force-sensitive to wield a lightsaber. It's still a meter and some long plasmatic laser blade sticking out of a hilt when you turn it on, capable of cutting through damn near anything.

I didn't say he was a lightsaber kensai

I just pointed out that he could turn the damn thing on., without tuning into the force..

Given his talents at almost anything else i suppose we should consider him lucky that he didn't take his leg off with it...

Ascalam wrote:I didn't say he was a lightsaber kensai

I just pointed out that he could turn the damn thing on., without tuning into the force..

Given his talents at almost anything else i suppose we should consider him lucky that he didn't take his leg off with it...

I was being completely serious.

so was I

Vader wouldn't cost 250 points either, just saying....

yeah, you can turn a Lightsabre on, but it has been said that a non-force sensitive person would probably be just as much danger to themselves as to their opponent.

Grevious is an exception as he recieved extensive training from Duku, Douku, Douko??? You know...

Grey Templar wrote:yeah, you can turn a Lightsabre on, but it has been said that a non-force sensitive person would probably be just as much danger to themselves as to their opponent.

Grevious is an exception as he recieved extensive training from Duku, Douku, Douko??? You know...

Extensive cybernetics played a part as well, giving him increased reaction-time and perception, so he can do all of his nonsense without dismembering himself.

Nah, calgar wins, because he can just grab the lightsaber with the pimpfists and stab vader with them, If you think I'm joking, read the fluff section of the SM codex,

I play eldar btw.